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Location: Brighty in Blighty | When my 07C (no not a FRG) arrived I noticed that there is a 'hump' behindd the bridge, i.e. the top is not completely flat but there is a broad 'camber'. I'm told this is normal.
But I also noticed that there is a dip in the epaulet, see pics. I'm going to send these to Kim @ MS but was just wondering what the 'experts' here thought about this. Should I worry? (I am prone to do this :) ).
THe pics make it look worse than it is I think, the dip is about 2mm.
Love the sound of the 07C, and even better when plugged in. Right off to learn some more Doug Smith.
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| Man, dips or not that is one great looking guitar! |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | More eye candy for you!
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Sorry to feed your paranoia Dweez, but it looks similar to what was wrong with my '05 Collectors. (Yes, different configuration, but...)
One of the braces had popped off just above my soundhole and made the top dip between the bridge and fingerboard, also made the soundboard below the bridge to belly more than it should.
Mother fixed it. But mine was under warranty.
Apparently, the single hole Ovations belly a lot more than the elites, but it's perfectly normal. My 1768 Elite, on the other hand, is as flat as a billiard table, even when I open tune to E with 0.13's.
Take the access cover off and check out your bracing.
Lovely guitar Dweez. For the price you paid, you could pay to get it fixed and still be accused of theft.
BTW. What camera do you use? I've got a multi $$$ whizz-bang digital SLR and can't take photos like that. (The fireworks photos were more luck than skill.) |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Yup $700 was a bit of a bargain :) |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | And your camera...? :confused: |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | what do you mean? |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Checked inside, the bracing looks good. Is this bulge too much bulge?
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Location: south east Michigan | I dunno.
Maybe Bill does. |
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Location: Utah | dweez, my new FRG '07C has a slight dip through the epaulette area. It isn't detectible and I hadn't noticed it before without putting a straight edge across it. The dip in mine looks to be about 1/4th as deep as yours. FWIW. I wouldn't panic yet, it might not be that abnormal, and if it is abnormal it is probably a simple brace repair/glue. |
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Location: Utah | The belly bulge on mine is about 1/4", maybe just a bit more. A bit less than yours from looking at the picture, but not as big of a difference as there is in the epaulette dip. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by dweezil:
what do you mean? In my first post. I asked you what camera you used. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Ah sorry, yes it's a Pentax Optio S4i, tiny 4 mega pixel jobby, cost about £100 4 years ago. Things have moved on, I would like a 10 MP SLR then I could get some really nice shots |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Ultra compact 3.3 x 2 x 0.8 inches, weighs just 3.7 ounces |
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Location: Tuscany, Italy | Dweezil, maybe it doesn't relief your pain, but I bought a legend LX new 2 years ago and it shows a similar bulge of your 07.
I was told this is quite normal and in a certain extent, the guitar is purposly builted that way. Do we have to believe that ?
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Location: ms | How does it play? |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Originally posted by gulfcoast:
How does it play? Beautifully. I love ebony fingerboards so it ticks that box for me. I started out just loving SSBs but now like a deeper bowl too (this is a contour deep bowl BTW) as I tune down to a low D and low C so the deep bowl allows the bass notes to 'breathe'.
I suspect you ask because you might say hey if it plays OK don't worry, play! But I'm convered that it's a sign that something is not right and will get worse. |
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Location: Tuscany, Italy | GC and Dweez, mine plays like a dream ! 2 years gone ... did nothing and it is still fine.....
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | I ought to add that I'm not really bothered about the "dip" and the "bulge" just wondered if it's normal or something I should keep an eye on / fix etc. Sending it back to MS will cost a fair bit.
Anyhow pics sent to Kim@MS. |
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| I believe Alpep said that the LX models were built with the top radiused or preformed that way... my 2771 lx came with it's own little bulge brand new.. and hasn't gotten any higher with mediums on it now.
I don't believe it's warping, but check with John and Kim.
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Location: NJ | That ever-so-slight "arch" of the LX tops is INTENDED t'be that way. It's DESIGNED that way.
In fact, when they route-out the spot on the top where they glue the bridge on, the have t'use a specially-designed router bit that "floats" on the surface of the top following the curvature.
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Location: NJ | why do I bother giving information.
noone believes me.
listen to the snot nosed kid at gc |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by cliff:
That ever-so-slight "arch" of the LX tops is INTENDED t'be that way. It's DESIGNED that way.
In fact, when they route-out the spot on the top where they glue the bridge on, the have t'use a specially-designed router bit that "floats" on the surface of the top following the curvature.
From Ovation's webpage ---
Sanding the arch.... |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | alpep, what information are/were you giving? |
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Location: NJ | I hear ya', Al . . . |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by dweezil:
alpep, what information are/were you giving? obviously none |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | "Wawa whawn waa waa whawn waa waa wa." |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Helpful. |
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Location: ms | Why does everybody keep talking about sending stuff to MS. We can`t fix it down here in Mississippi. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Yeah, Dweez. Those little Pentax cameras are the duck's nuts.
I had a Pentax 450, (I think) which went belly up, but replaced under warranty with a 550. Both took excellent photos - as good as my SLR. (probably because I didn't have much say in the result :rolleyes: )
It was an excellent backup camera, but unfortunately I dropped the 550 with the lens extended, which wrecked it. A very good salesman talked me out of a Pentax for a Fujifilm. Never been happy with it. |
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Location: Jet City | Dweezil, I posted this same question several months ago in regards to my 1778LX. Same hump behind the bridge. So does the Custom Elite LX
I'm no help on the epi thing. Mine look great. |
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Location: Tennessee | I checked out my 07 and no dip in the epaulette section that I saw. I have a nice bulge behind the bridge, but not quite as pronounced as yours. Mine was an FRG ... maybe that's what the problem was. ;)
Dweez ... do you have a humidifier? It looks like the dip is mainly in the center where the holes are and that area could be susceptible to showing the results of dry wood more that other places on the top. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Hi, no I don't have a humidifier, the previous owner lived in Hawaii and perhaps that location didn't suit the guitar. Hopefully will get an answer from Kim this week. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Kim said the radius should be there but to keep an eye on it in case it gets worse. Said low humidity can cause it to get worse. Suggested sticking a wet cloth in the guitar for a week to see if the hump reduces.
As for the dip said he had never seen that. Sadly the warnentee is with the original owner so to correct it would mean shipping to MS replacing the entire top and shipping back.
That is not going to happen!! |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | An update:
Left a wet rag in the body for 10 days didn't seem to make much difference.
Then replaced the strings (think they were 12s with 10s) and been playing it extensively (in fact switching solely between the 5868 Walnut and the 07C of late) and today I've noticed that the bridge hump is greatly reduced (down to 'normal') and the epaulet dip less prominent.
So I'm a happy camper. :)
Now seriously toying with swapping out the VIP for a Op Pro Studio! |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by alpep:
why do I bother giving information.
noone believes me.
listen to the snot nosed kid at gc You're finally catching on after how many years?
I've always known that the top of the LX models were built with a slight "arch" but now it makes me wonder, are the undersides of the bridges built with that same arch in reverse for a perfect fit? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I always listen to you Al!
If I'm having a rough day all I have to do is call you up ("we never close") and listen to how much your day sucks more than mine!
You have always been there for me, thank you. |
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by dweezil:
Now seriously toying with swapping out the VIP for a Op Pro Studio! Just do it. Sometime this weekend I'll record the VIP vs Studio in my '07C so you can hear the difference. |
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