New member --- and questions.
Tikirocker
Posted 2006-07-01 3:39 AM (#248869)
Subject: New member --- and questions.


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G'day all.

Been an owner of a white Breadwinner since 1988 - that guitar I had been searching for about two years before I found one. My love of Ovation Solids is beyond anything else and as a professional musician I've been using my Bread as my main guitar for about 17 years now! A few years later I was able to find a Deacon 6 in brown burst and just a few days ago I managed to finally score a Magnum II bass in excellent condition - brown burst model also.

Here are my Solid 6's ...







After doing allot of online research I have managed to find a couple of places like pickguard heaven that will replace the cracked guards on my Deacon and Magnum II. I also managed to track down the schematics for the Magnum II as some previous owner tried to modify the Mag II with another switch to toggle between active and passive sound. The sliders are missing the caps that paired them into a three group and they are making terrible noise when moved and are very gunky and stiff.

I have a couple of options - try and get a friend to see if they can clean up the Mag II eq sliders and get them quiet again along with a new pick guard and keep it stock - or modify the Mag II into a Mag I - order a Mag 1 pick guard ( I have found some other tone and vol knobs online that look almost identical to the single vol pot on my Mag II to make up the extras for a Mag 1 impression ) and have it wired to basically be a Magnum 1. Question then, does anybody have a wiring schematic for a Magnum 1 anywhere?

Thanks all --- suggestions apreciated!

Best, Simon.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-07-01 4:08 AM (#248870 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.



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Magnum 2

Magnum 1

If these don't help check out the rest of Jerome's incredible site

Ovation Tribute
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stephent28
Posted 2006-07-01 4:09 AM (#248871 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.



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Oh yeah....welcome to the OFC.

We have several regular contributing members from your part of the world!
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Tikirocker
Posted 2006-07-01 4:36 AM (#248872 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.


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Thanks mate, just what the doctor ordered though they are more exploded parts rather than electronics schematics. If you have any knowledge on other places to source replica tone or vol knobs to match the Magnums or Breadinners that would be great also.

Best, Simon.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-07-01 8:47 AM (#248873 - in reply to #248869)
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Welcome Simon,
... Go to Photo Gallery in Member Access. Find 'BruDev' Schematics album. He has Magnum II wiring diagrams.
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Tikirocker
Posted 2006-07-01 9:50 AM (#248874 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.


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Thanks Jeff, greatly apreciated ...

BTW Do you have any specific knowledge on truss rod adjustment for the Magnum I + II basses?
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Tikirocker
Posted 2006-07-01 10:20 AM (#248875 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.


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Ok I have looked in all the places I can imagine and I have no idea how or where to access Photo Gallery - got a link?

Ok got it now ...
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cliff
Posted 2006-07-01 11:30 AM (#248876 - in reply to #248869)
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Welcome.

(Nice Tiki's, btw!)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-07-01 12:24 PM (#248877 - in reply to #248869)
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Try this link for more info on your guitars....

http://www.doremi.co.uk/breadwinner/
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Tikirocker
Posted 2006-07-01 1:37 PM (#248878 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.


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Originally posted by cliff:
Welcome.

(Nice Tiki's, btw!)
Thanks Cliff ... I have a larger collection.
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Tikirocker
Posted 2006-07-01 1:39 PM (#248879 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Try this link for more info on your guitars....

http://www.doremi.co.uk/breadwinner/
Thanks Moody ... I've had that site bookmarked for some time - will check the schematics there though I believe they are only for the guitars and not bass.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-07-01 2:48 PM (#248880 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.


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I have no idea how to adjust the neck on an electric bass-- if it is any different than electric guitar. I set-up my Hamers, which I later sold and got high praise from the buyers on the action/playability.
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Jérôme
Posted 2006-07-01 3:05 PM (#248881 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.



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Welcome Tikirocker,

For more information, please look inside that OWNER\'S MANUAL.

There's 2 pages for the Magnum's neck adjustment.

J :)
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Beal
Posted 2006-07-01 3:16 PM (#248882 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.



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welcome. what are those spots all over the breadweinner?
What color p/g you looking for?
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MWoody
Posted 2006-07-01 6:33 PM (#248883 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.



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Got Wood?


Welcome.
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-07-01 6:59 PM (#248884 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.


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Originally posted by cwk2:
what are those spots all over the breadweinner?
Bill, I'm surprised you don't remember. Those are POWERDOTS. StandingOvation marketed them a few years ago. They are metallic dots of various sizes that you stick on the body of electric guitars. They improve the sustain and by playing around with the placement of the different sized dots you can "tune" the tone characteristic of the guitar. I think he had to take them off the market when people started complaining that the adhesive was making them dizzy.

Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-07-01 7:17 PM (#248885 - in reply to #248869)
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Originally posted by Tupperware:
Those are POWERDOTS. StandingOvation marketed them a few years ago. he had to take them off the market when people started complaining that the adhesive was making them dizzy.

Dave
My friend, Andy, dropped some bad POWERDOTS during a TaJ Mahal show. He saw death that night....

......and he Pissed-Me-OFF cause, I missed Taj's second set while trying to convince him not to break his skull against the tile in the Men's Room.
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cliff
Posted 2006-07-01 7:19 PM (#248886 - in reply to #248869)
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. . and if you take the guitar out on a bright, hot sunny day, and aim it JUST right . . . y'can light ya' "Barbie" . . .
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-07-01 7:30 PM (#248887 - in reply to #248869)
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Why not just use a match?


(People in front row at TwoManGroup shows, Be-Ware! should Cliff sport a shiney guitar)
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cliff
Posted 2006-07-01 8:00 PM (#248888 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.


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Funny you should say that
(where've I heard that before??) . . .

As I've been typing these, I've been running in/out tending to two seperate barbecue grills (one for meat one for fish - Charcoal,Baby! . . no steeenking Gaaaaas . . .).

Meat:
Beef Tenderloin & Pork Chops.

Fish:
Chunks of fresh tuna & papaya stir-fried in a soy/ginger/wasabi oil marinade.

MahiMahi in a VidaliaOnion SmokedTomato marinade on an alder plank.

(MyersRum/Ice/Lime)


gotta go . . . .


Later.
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Tikirocker
Posted 2006-07-01 9:44 PM (#248889 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.


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Originally posted by cwk2:
welcome. what are those spots all over the breadweinner?
What color p/g you looking for?
They are adhesive reflective mylar ... they shimmer and reflect light back into the audience during the show blinding them with a dazzling brilliance - it ensures that my gigs are always cooler since people are forced to wear sun glasses.

As to pick guard looking for the standard black play on white border for the both my Magnum and Deacon. Thanks for the welcome.
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Tikirocker
Posted 2006-07-01 9:51 PM (#248890 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.


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Originally posted by paulmac:
Welcome Tikirocker,

For more information, please look inside that OWNER\'S MANUAL.

There's 2 pages for the Magnum's neck adjustment.

J :)
Thanks ... I downloaded it a few days ago so why didn't I just go look at it properly? :o :)
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2006-07-01 10:33 PM (#248891 - in reply to #248869)
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That Bwinner reminds me...

1) Remember the all-chrome Deacon that sold on eBay a couple years ago, with the pac-man shaped headstock? I wish I'd saved a pic of that.

2) Saw Queen and Thin Lizzie in '79. Phil Lynott (sp?) seemed to take great joy in reflecting the spots into the eyes of the fans. Many returned his kindness with obscene gestures.

3) Remember Quay Lewd's mirror "Q" guitar?

Welcome, Tiki!
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stephent28
Posted 2006-07-01 11:03 PM (#248892 - in reply to #248869)
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Capt'n....you never struck me as a Tubes fan!
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stephent28
Posted 2006-07-01 11:05 PM (#248893 - in reply to #248869)
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Originally posted by cliff:
Funny you should say that
(where've I heard that before??) . . .

As I've been typing these, I've been running in/out tending to two seperate barbecue grills (one for meat one for fish - Charcoal,Baby! . . no steeenking Gaaaaas . . .).

Meat:
Beef Tenderloin & Pork Chops.

Fish:
Chunks of fresh tuna & papaya stir-fried in a soy/ginger/wasabi oil marinade.

MahiMahi in a VidaliaOnion SmokedTomato marinade on an alder plank.

(MyersRum/Ice/Lime)


gotta go . . . .


Later.
DAMN CLIFF.....it is too late this year but can I come hang out and eat at your place on the next 4th of July Weekend :cool:
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2006-07-02 4:40 PM (#248894 - in reply to #248869)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Capt'n....you never struck me as a Tubes fan!
Oh yes. I was. In fact Knuckledragger, Old Applause Owner and I were talking about having seen them in the now infamous "Boost Your Post Count" thread, after I copied in the lyrics from "What Do You Want From Life". Today, I can't really see myself performing "White Punks on Dope", though.
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Tikirocker
Posted 2006-07-04 6:56 AM (#248895 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.


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On another note gents ... the bass case I have for my Magnum II is missing it's handle - does anybody know where I might buy a replacement and if Ovation officically has handles available that will still work generically to replace the missing unit on mine?

Thanks, Simon.
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bvince
Posted 2006-07-04 12:04 PM (#248896 - in reply to #248869)
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Hi Simon. Welcome to the OFC!

If I had a need for solid-bodies, those would be the ones I'd look for.

As far as the power dots ... (: I thought they were put on there to be substitutes for the holes on the acoustic ovation guitars. You know ... if you can't have holes, just put on power dots!
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Tikirocker
Posted 2006-07-04 1:24 PM (#248897 - in reply to #248869)
Subject: Re: New member --- and questions.


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Originally posted by bvince:
Hi Simon. Welcome to the OFC!

If I had a need for solid-bodies, those would be the ones I'd look for.

As far as the power dots ... (: I thought they were put on there to be substitutes for the holes on the acoustic ovation guitars. You know ... if you can't have holes, just put on power dots!
G'day Vince,

Thanks for the welcome and funnily enough since I have a use for solids those were the exact one's I went looking for ... do we have a connection or what?!!!

As to the power dots ... I think Syd Barrett had the same on his guitar and infact at that time I can imagine he might have thought of them as power dots also!

Any suggestions on my question above RE Bass Case handles?

Best, Simon.
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BruDeV
Posted 2006-07-04 5:00 PM (#248898 - in reply to #248869)
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Tikirocker
Posted 2006-07-04 5:13 PM (#248899 - in reply to #248869)
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Thanks Brudev,

I actually got those earlier in the thread ... had trouble finding it at first but did infact post back that I got them afterall.

Any word however on replacement flightcase handles for the bass case?
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