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TWA
Posted 2006-08-07 11:45 AM (#244982)
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Posted 2006-08-07 12:32 PM (#244983 - in reply to #244982)
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Everyone is allowed a lapse in taste once in their life.

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Steve
Posted 2006-08-07 12:38 PM (#244984 - in reply to #244982)
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Taylor "wishes" He would come over to the dark side...
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Omaha
Posted 2006-08-07 12:49 PM (#244985 - in reply to #244982)
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Looks like he did.
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Jeff
Posted 2006-08-07 12:51 PM (#244986 - in reply to #244982)
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Those pics are from GC's recent tour of the UK. I have a feeling the Taylor was "on hand" at what looks like an impromtu outdoor performance and he just played it "'cause it was there." I;ve seen a few actual concert pics from the tour, and in those he's got his trusty Viper.
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Posted 2006-08-07 12:59 PM (#244987 - in reply to #244982)
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Originally posted by Steve:
Taylor "wishes" He would come over to the dark side...
Although, if you go to the Taylor web site and look at their artist registry, his name is there! I believe Glen's still an "Ovation guy" at heart, but I don't think he nor Ovation consider him an exclusive endorsee these days. I find it odd though that with the reissue of his namesake guitars, that he chooses his old Viper or a deep bowl Elite LX as his stage guitars.
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TWA
Posted 2006-08-07 1:22 PM (#244988 - in reply to #244982)
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He has a section on his web site under guitar talk that shows his current stage equipment. A Glen Campbell Strat, Glen Campbell 12-str. Hamer, and a Custom Elite LX. No mention of Taylor, though there are links to Taylor and Ovation websites.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-08-07 1:37 PM (#244989 - in reply to #244982)
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He's well known for picking up whatever's around and playing it..... He's not playing Taylors in his shows.
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Posted 2006-08-07 1:58 PM (#244990 - in reply to #244982)
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I'm pretty sure Glen owns at least one Taylor. I seem to recall his rhythm guitarist, Ken Skaggs, saying that Glen was so impressed with his (Ken's) Taylor, that he bought one just like it. A few years ago, GC was on Larry King Live and did a whole solo acoustic set with a grand concert bodied Taylor. However, if you happen to catch the TV Land special on GC a couple of weeks ago, in the recent interview footage you could see his black 80's Custom Legend and (I belive) a Legend 12-string LX displayed rather prominently in the background.

Like I said, I don't think Ovation's longest standing endorsee has abandoned them. I just don't think Glen's as persnickity about what guitar he plays when he's not performing one of his own concerts as he might've been, say, 20-30 years ago. In recent years I've seen him play a variety of different brands; Martins, Taylors, Takamines, Guilds, and at the funeral of Ray Charles he played one of those all composite acoustics (can't think of the brand at the moment).

All of that to say, I believe that Glen just plays whatever's handy or provided for him, whenever he's performing outside of his own concert stage.
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Posted 2006-08-07 2:42 PM (#244991 - in reply to #244982)
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I've seen other photos of Glen playing a Taylor. Glen will always be associated with Ovation in one way or another and I've always been a fan of his, but if he wants to go play Taylors, Martins, Fenders or whatever so be it. It's certainly not worth getting my panties in a bunch. Dave
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Posted 2006-08-07 3:21 PM (#244992 - in reply to #244982)
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PANTIES???
How come I'm not surprised??
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Posted 2006-08-07 3:29 PM (#244993 - in reply to #244982)
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Dave has been a "tighties" guy for as long as I've known him.
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Posted 2006-08-07 4:01 PM (#244994 - in reply to #244982)
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I guess a musician like Campbell has played them all at one time or the other, and it's anybodies guess how many he actually owns...A guitarist such as he, is used to playing guitars with custom set-ups anyway. As I understand it, a pro luthier, Rich Beck, in Arizona does his fretwork.
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Highway61
Posted 2006-08-07 6:05 PM (#244995 - in reply to #244982)
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Don't project any great mystique on "pro luthier, Rich Beck." Beck is more myth than reality, and he's a total sphincter, too.
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Posted 2006-08-07 7:19 PM (#244996 - in reply to #244982)
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Originally posted by Highway61:
he's a total sphincter, too.
Now there's a story waiting to be told! Care to elaborate?
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-08-07 10:45 PM (#244997 - in reply to #244982)
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I've had Beck do some work for me, including some custom wood work. No question he "can" do outstanding work if and when he wants to. He may have glued in a couple of frets for Glen back in the day, but he's no fan of Ovations. The last time I was in his place (several years ago), I was greated with "Get that m*ther f*cking plastic piece of shit out of my sight before I shove it up your f*cking ass sideways." Those who know Richard will know exactly what I mean. Dave
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-08-07 11:32 PM (#244998 - in reply to #244982)
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You know Dave, it's entirely possible he was responding to you and not to the guitar you brought in......
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Posted 2006-08-08 12:18 AM (#244999 - in reply to #244982)
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LETS THINK ABOUT THIS?????
If Beck were to really stick an Ovation guitar up Tupperwares rear cavity then would it not make sense that you would want a
SPHINCTER PRO LUTHIER there to remove it ???
Just a thought.......GWB
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Posted 2006-08-08 8:36 AM (#245000 - in reply to #244982)
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Thats my cousin Jerry doing his Glen tribute thing.


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bvince
Posted 2006-08-08 8:56 AM (#245001 - in reply to #244982)
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I imagine that GC still has plenty of people willing to GIVE him guitars, just to get a picture of him holding it. A little "strange" now and then just helps you to appreciate what you have. (speaking of guitars that is)
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Posted 2006-08-08 9:28 AM (#245002 - in reply to #244982)
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It's tues am, I just got back to this topic, I apologize I mentioned mr beck, I didn't know he was hostile to ovation guitars as such...most every brand of instrument has it's lesser models and better models anyway...no reason to trash 'em all...
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Posted 2006-08-08 11:43 AM (#245003 - in reply to #244982)
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GC can probably afford any guitar he wants. Most guitar companies would probably be willing to give him any of thier guitars he wanted for free. If you could have any and as many guitars as you wanted, wouldn't you want a variety? I sure would. Here's a Taylor - Gee thanks! Have a Martin - Much obliged! I'd take 'em all.
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Jeff
Posted 2006-08-08 12:05 PM (#245004 - in reply to #244982)
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Originally posted by Steve:
I apologize I mentioned mr beck, I didn't know he was hostile to ovation guitars...
Well, he may hate Ovations, but he sure doesn't mind having GC endorse his work with a quote on his (Beck's) web site that says, "Beck has exclusively worked on my my Ovations, Fenders and Martins for fourteen years..."

If he really hates Ovations as much as Dave's experience would indicate, then he's obviously the kind of guy that would refret an Esteban if he thought he'd get a celebrity endorsement out of it.
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cliff
Posted 2006-08-08 12:51 PM (#245005 - in reply to #244982)
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Sounds pretty Sphincterene t'me . . .
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Posted 2006-08-08 1:27 PM (#245006 - in reply to #244982)
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may we should take the 'Little Fretty' to him... let him work on it for awhile.
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cliff
Posted 2006-08-08 1:32 PM (#245007 - in reply to #244982)
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Bet he doesn't even know 'bout StringTubes . . .
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-08-08 3:05 PM (#245008 - in reply to #244982)
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Let me clarify, Mr. Beck is a very good technician and very opinionated. There is nothing wrong with that. Hell I do it here on this board all the time. If he doesn't like the color red, and you walk in with a red strat, he's likely to say "that's one ugly f*cking guitar". Take it for what it's worth. Dave
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Beal
Posted 2006-08-08 3:30 PM (#245009 - in reply to #244982)
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It's OK to be very opinionated, so long as he has the right opinion.
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Highway61
Posted 2006-08-08 4:10 PM (#245010 - in reply to #244982)
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Originally posted by cliff:
Sounds pretty Sphincterene t'me . . .
LOL
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bvince
Posted 2006-08-08 4:15 PM (#245011 - in reply to #244982)
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It is OK to have an opinion. But when someone is in business, it isn't very wise to exercise it so blantantly as to offend your customers. Personally, if I walked into a shop and the guy badmouthed my guitar like that, I'd turn around and walk out. Nobody is so good that they can afford to insult people. The same goes with the lack of professionalism displayed when he uses profanity like that. There's a guy who works in a local guitar shop here who had a problem with his mouth like that. Everyone in town referred to him as "potty-mouth". They get very little business now, and I doubt if they'll stay in business as long as he works there..
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-08-08 6:56 PM (#245012 - in reply to #244982)
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Originally posted by bvince:
Everyone in town referred to him as "potty-mouth".
Well tisk, tisk, tisk ... I guess you put HIM in his place, didn't you ???

... Sorry man, I couldn't resist that one!

Dave
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cliff
Posted 2006-08-08 7:17 PM (#245013 - in reply to #244982)
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Years ago, I worked in a sign shop in SouthJersey, and on more than one occasion I saw the boss turn away work (for a LOTTA money, too) because he felt that the end product wouldn't be up to his particular standards.

I always gave him a lot of credit for that . . .

(btw: There are "potty mouths", and there are those that utilize the sheer linguistical artistry of vulgarity when the need arises to prove a particular point . . . I for one, am a card-carrying Vulgarian).
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Posted 2006-08-08 7:24 PM (#245014 - in reply to #244982)
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I prefer to think of myself as a vulgarist.
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Posted 2006-08-08 7:34 PM (#245015 - in reply to #244982)
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Different Union.
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Posted 2006-08-08 7:36 PM (#245016 - in reply to #244982)
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I can see your duet album now; "Songs Of The Vulgar Boatmen."
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Highway61
Posted 2006-08-08 8:10 PM (#245017 - in reply to #244982)
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Originally posted by cliff:


(btw: There are "potty mouths", and there are those that utilize the sheer linguistical artistry of vulgarity when the need arises to prove a particular point . . . I for one, am a card-carrying Vulgarian).
Believe me, Beck isn't capable of utilizing "linguistical artistry." He's just a boor.
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Posted 2006-08-08 10:02 PM (#245018 - in reply to #244982)
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After spending 21 years in the Marine Corps I could easily vulgarize with the best of the vulgates, but I now like to hold myself to a higher standard than that. It's kinda like dropping ebonics, now that I don't live in a getto.
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Posted 2006-08-08 11:06 PM (#245019 - in reply to #244982)
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What bvince said. I agree. It takes a lot more effort to put together a thought or express an opinion with our language than simply dropping the f bomb or bomb of the moment. There is no artistry in vulgarity.

As far as the guitar tech in question; folks who behave like that no matter what they do to earn money will get the work and rewards they deserve. Let him go his way and pick only the fights he can win. Guys like that keep the rest of us in business. Can't speak for anyone else, but my whole professional life has been about serving and pleasing as many customers as possible in as professional manner as possible. You can't please 'em all, but you can please most of 'em or at the very least, try. After all, they are paying you for a good or service. No problem being kind to everybody; you never have to feel bad (about being mean to someone) if you treated them well.

Oh, and by the way, what does it matter what kind of guitar bears the strings that Glen Campbell plays? It's great that he is still playing no matter what guitar he plays. Go Glen. Keep playin'. I can't wait to hear and see him in Vegas later on this year. And it absolutely won't matter what kind of guitar he uses.
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Posted 2006-08-08 11:28 PM (#245020 - in reply to #244982)
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Vulgarian.

Vulgarican.

Vulgarican or Vulgarcrat?

Potty Pugalist

Phooey...
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Posted 2006-08-09 1:31 AM (#245021 - in reply to #244982)
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"Vulgarity is nothing more than a crutch for a conversational cripple".

That's why y'all don't hear much from me... just too f*ckin' hard getting around!!!
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TWA
Posted 2006-08-09 7:54 AM (#245022 - in reply to #244982)
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Of course it matters to everyone on this board what kind of guitar Glen Campbell plays. As I recall, the stories most members have told about why they first purchased an Ovation include a reference to the Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour.
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Posted 2006-08-09 4:05 PM (#245023 - in reply to #244982)
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With all due respect to our intergalactic friends with the pointy ears, "Vulgans."
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Posted 2006-08-14 12:47 AM (#245024 - in reply to #244982)
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These pics must have been right before he fell off the wagon... jk

we'll give Glen a pass...


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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-08-14 10:41 AM (#245025 - in reply to #244982)
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Brianslag made a good comment in that Glen probably has people throwing guitars at him.

If I won the lottery, there'd be a whole lot more than Ovations in my collection... Santa Cruz, Olson, Collings, etc. I suspect tho' that there probably wouldn't be any Taylors. Maybe one or two Martins.....
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Posted 2006-08-14 10:50 AM (#245026 - in reply to #244982)
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Originally posted by fillhixx:
I can see your duet album now; "Songs Of The Vulgar Boatmen."
I LUV the Vulgar Boatmen!
I can't believe someone else has heard of them. Where are they now?

...and for the record, I'm a "Vulgario"
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-08-14 12:08 PM (#245027 - in reply to #244982)
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I was punning on 'SOng of the Volga Boatmen' never heard of The Vulgar Boatmen...but now I'm intrigued! Do tell.
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Posted 2006-08-14 12:23 PM (#245028 - in reply to #244982)
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Originally posted by fillhixx:
I was punning on 'SOng of the Volga Boatmen' never heard of The Vulgar Boatmen...but now I'm intrigued! Do tell.
See here for a little more on the Boatmen.
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Posted 2006-08-14 5:21 PM (#245029 - in reply to #244982)
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They'd be the ones...
Cool stuff.


. . . . and might I add, a relatively rare, helpful post from our own ( ) Weaser P.
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Posted 2006-08-14 8:55 PM (#245030 - in reply to #244982)
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Don't get used to that, k? I have a rep to hold down.
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