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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | How often do You use the E minor 7th add 11 Chord ,every song ,or after 2 beers :confused: ,and no ,I do n`t think it`s worth a poll :D |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Which finger is add 11th? Is that the pinky on the 5th or 6th fret of the high E string? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Hey Moody, How often do you use the Em7add11 (first position) |
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Location: Houston, Texas | Uhh, you gotta tab of that?
No, wait, I don't want you to get sued by the music industry execs. :eek: :rolleyes: |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | If its got more than 1 Capital Letter, 1 small letter and 1 number it ain't a real chord! |
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Location: Oregon | I looked this up and apparently it's strumming the guitar open. I use this all the time between hard chords. |
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Location: Isle of Man, UK | If it's strumming all strings open then I use it:- Too often.
Usually during rockabilly solo's where I've lost my way! Turn on the crunchy channel, let go all strings with the left hand, give a big sweep with the right, reach over and waggle that bigsby-style trem like crazy with the left.
"Dude, that thing you did in the middle of that solo was awesome. Maaan - left handed whammy, Cool."
It's amazing what you can get away with when you're playing in a bar late on a Friday night!
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Location: cincinnati, ohio | Originally posted by 72tour:
I looked this up and apparently it's strumming the guitar open.
Oh, is thatwhat it's called? I have an original name for it: E minor open (deep, huh?). I use that all the time when I'm giving my arthritic fingers a chance to form more complicated chords-- like "D!" I'm in good company, though-- Pete Townshend and John Lennon used it all the time. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | John Denver's Calypso has a huge Em7+11 strum between the verse and chorus. Can't recall any others at this early morning moment. |
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Location: CT | Every chord I don't know the name to is a mistake. I play them often. |
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Location: SoCal | When I play, there are no mistaken notes.... just "other" notes..... |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Mainly to start a certain Beatles song.....or, like, whenever....y'know? |
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Location: Oregon | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
When I play, there are no mistaken notes.... just "other" notes..... That right there is one of the best musical quotes ever. |
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Location: Keller, TX | I usually just use WD40. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Mildly related...
I noticed that on the RockStar SuperNova the guy Lucas played an Acoustic version of his Original song. Now I didn't think much of the song but what I found clever was as it was only one song that he had to sing, it seems he tuned the guitar to the main chord. Open strum = main chord. Then the other two or three chords only involved holding a few strings on the higher frets, barred. I couldn't see what exactly he was doing, other than there was no real "finger position" as such involved. Looked like he barred the last three strings on the 5th and 7th frets and the 3rd chord was just open. This made the whole singing playing thing really easy and just made the whole thing more visually appealing too. Of course the power of the main verse chord being an open strum didn't hurt either. Like I said, clever trick worth trying. |
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Location: Houston, Texas | Kind of like that "Bad to the Bone" idiot, something Thoroughgood, only without the slide? |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Now we `re getting somewhere ( thanks to Mr,Ovation )" Why do n`t we do it on the guitar " ..free after` the Beatles`..experimentation and just a li`ll bit a knowledge,and lots o`luck & exposure ,Y`see , all them people who became famous early on,such as Hank Marvin from The Shadows were n`t "class A " guitar pickers, but they utilised what they had (Okay ,Allright, throw it at me,I know I had it comin `)and they knew the right people,point is..U never know what way a dime rolls ,will "they" throw shoes :rolleyes: or lots o`fame .. :cool: or money :D :D |
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Location: Oregon | Yeah he was just in some kind of slide tuning. I don't think much of it if you're not using a slide. Doesn't sound that great to me for some reason.
My favorite slide song by the way by Bukka White. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsMpHHSLSlc |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Ok, well I just did a fun experiment. 40+ years on and off of playing and the A-Retent side of me never thought of "alternate tuning". I play slide in standard tuning, 12-Strings tuned the same as 6-string etc...
Anyway, I took out the trusty Elite-T and tuned so that an open strum = E. Well how fun. Lay a finger across the strings and instant barre chord. Hmmm play only a few strings, hold only a few strings.. Ok.. it's extremly limiting, but at the same time kinda fun.
I think tomorrow I'll try this again, but add the G-Band into the mix.
Favorite slide lick... Easy Like Sunday Morning or any slide work by Joe Walsh or Bonnie Raitt |
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Location: Lebanon, TN | Open tunings of all kinds are fun but as you say "limiting" unless you are sat in them all the time to play stuff. Joni Mitchell was/is a great user of them on the guitar. In fact the first thing I ever learned in Open E was "Big Yellow Taxi" which is way more fun to play in that tuning than anything else. I found out from that there are a few "standard" chord shapes to give you A & B without using straight Barre at the fith and seventh fret. That just looks lazy when people do it unless they are adding lots of flourishes or using slide.
When I had it I used to keep the Melissa MEWP sat in Open E for alternative inspiration when writing and occasionally would do DADAAD too which is a great drone tuning for my Scottish folk nonsense :-) |
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Location: Alabama | I believe there was a siger/somgwriter who used to host a show on mtv back when there was the occasional musical act still on named Jules Shear or Shearer who played like that only he used his thumb to barre the strings. He had Neil Young, Elvis Costello and other folks on and he would do duets with backing vocals. I thought it looked very strange, but he always sounded good. |
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | I actually use it as G/A, normally in chord progressions with G/A - A - D. It does add a kind of celtic sound in regular tuning. When I play in DADGAD, though, I'm too busy trying to remember where the chords are to worry much about how they're named!
(That's what I need--another SS-bowl to keep tuned there for emergency celtic interpretations.....)
--Karen and the crew
Gertrude, Jewel, Blanca, "Nonnie," Ivory, Sugar, Plink, Twang and Shriek |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | After I bring back the Custom Balladeer from the cabin this weekend, I will use it for alternate tunings. At least that was one rationale for having so many guitars. |
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Location: Omaha, NE | I've got a CD of Willie Nelson and Johnny Cash playing during their VH1 "Unplugged" concert. They are tossing ideas back and forth, and they left in the "between song" banter. At one point, Nelson is explaining the progression of some song. Cash asks what that chord is.
W : "We go from the E to the F#m"
C : "That's an F#m"
W: "Yeah"
C : "I figured it was. I'll just look at my watch during that one." |
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Location: Omaha, NE | I've got a number of fingerstyle pieces that I play in alternate tunings. They work, but they are kindof a pain. I hate having to retune back and forth. I guess I need more guitars?!
The real problem with them is that for someone with my limited experience, the chord formations are completely foreign. It makes learning new fingerstyle stuff pretty hard, because you can't automatically understand what is going on musically. In standard tuning, you can generally track the changes. In something wierd (like DGDGBD) its not all that obvious. |
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Location: Waurika OK | When I went to Matt Smiths clinic at a music store in OK City, he gave us a few sheets with alt. tunings, very neat stuff.
It works like Miles was saying, all strings open barre all strings at fifth fret and seventh fret.
Open D -D A D f# A D The sheet has many more chords on up the neck to the 12th fret.
He gave us the same for open C and G.
Neat progression from open all the way up the neck to 12th fret with bass strings dominating and then back down with treble strings dominating.
I think I know where it is and will scan and email if you like, or maybe I can post it here (if i can find out how to do that)
I will go to Matt's page, maybe he has it already in a form that he can post.
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Location: Houston, Texas | OK, well I just don't like George Thoroughgood and I think "Bad to the Bone" is about the worst slide guitar I've ever heard.
The best current slide guitarist I've heard is Derek Trucks. I saw an interview with him where he said that he plays almost exclusively in open E even when not playing slide and can't remember much anymore in standard tuning.
The only alternate tuning I've played around with other than drop D is open E. "Little Martha" from the album "Eat a Peach" is in open E and is pretty easy to figure out and alot of fun to play. |
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Location: Waurika OK | V-elite you have email.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | While I admit alternate tunings are interesting for many purely musical reasons, my comment about the open chord useage was more about the performance possibilities. In the case I mentioned, and it seems in a few others, it allowed the artist to be the only one on stage, and at the same time, not let the guitar distract at all from the performance and not let anyone think "oh wow he's a guitar player too." Basically he used this "trick" to make his voice the center of attention, forcing the audience to not really notice the guitar until the song was over. It's not something you can do more than once a night. It's just an aspect or angle I hadn't thought of, and found it clever.
As far as alternate tunings... I'll leave that to the other guitar players. This horse too old for new tricks. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | C'mon, Miles. If I'm willing to try it, you're not too old. Your first Northwest winter is coming up and you'll have lots of time to learn new tricks. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | "Your first Northwest winter is coming up and you'll have lots of time to learn new tricks."
LOL Remember I'm NORTH of Seattle.. Winter here only means.... I don't know that it means... I might actually see rain for a change? The Dive sites have less people? The Mountain passes are closed, I know that much. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | The pronouncement of the Seasons around here is a daily event.
The Summer we are still having has been phenomenal! Very rare.
Gray and dark gray are doubtless on their way in. Speculation as to wether we will have snow on the ground in the lowlands around Christmas. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Summer weather just ended here. We're hoping it puts out all the forest fires. Miles, don't let out the secret about how good the weather is in the Northwest or all those Easterners will be moving out here. Oops, too late. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I figured everyone knew I was joking anyway.. (wink wink). Looking forward the several feet of snow, constant grey days and 50 inches of rain :)
hows that? |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Aren't there parts of Washington that rain all winter? |
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Location: North Idaho | I don't know about the rain, but by the smoke we've been breathing lately, parts of Washington have been on fire all fall. Rain would be very welcome this weekend. It's been so dry I'm going to have to get a humidifier if we don't get rain soon. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Yeah, we got a reality check just before labor day. Checking the news on the fires before we went camping.. "we expect to have them contained by early October"... huh???? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Nice rain and snow in the mountains early Saturday morning quelled the smoke pretty well. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Open G - Used to be able to play the instrumental version of Both Sides Now as found on Will The Circle Be Unbroken-Nitty Gritty etc. But I forgot it!
Assignment for October, relearn.
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And if you Yanks would keep your fires and the smoke therefrom below the border, we'd really appreciate it! |
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Location: Tucson, AZ | ...I use it rather often, in ONE NOTE SAMBA, MISTY, and MICHELLE, etc.
...not specifically "E", but yes, (X)m7(add11). |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Seems as if there are some musicians here :) knowledgable ones even,playing out,doing the expected and beyond,and an inspiration to novices ,pushing boundaries,using "means but no means"to enhance their skills..(now where did I hear that before ? ) :confused: ..perhaps eying them seasoned pro`s might "pay off " after all ;) |
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| I play in open Em almost all of the time(EBEGBE). For one thing, there're the bar chords accross. Also, if you're playing in that key(Em), you can just change the low two e's, or the two b's, or an e and the g, to get some great chords. I started playing in Em to cover Joey Eppard songs, but it grew on me. |
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Em7add11.....How often do you use it ?