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Location: Chicago area | What type of amp with a Viper EA68, acoustic or electric?
A few people here have suggested that I investigate the EA68, since I am struggling with stage feedback with my 6778LX. I am wondering if that guitar sounds better with electric voiced amp or if it requires an acoustic amp. Since the music director and sound crew want only vocals and keyboard going through overhead PA it is creating problems for me. Right now I have had to go back to my Fender Strat/Vox 60w amp to cut through mix and carry well in the sanctuary (large)
HERE IS PIC OF SANCTUARY:
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We have a pretty tight space for band, so I am trying to get by with ONE GUITAR and ONE AMP if possible, due to space and in order to keep things simple.
HERE IS PIC OF BAND AREA (that's me in purple shirt playing the strat):
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So, I was looking at a T5/Crafter SA type solution that would allow me to use the 60w VOX amp but also get a convincing acoustic sound for the songs that require it.
I am sure I am not the only one to come up against these struggles, so ANY help is appreciated. I don't want to change out any of my Amp gear as I am happy with those. I am just not sure the Ultrasound has the umph to carry in this big sanctuary without going to PA.
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Location: CT | Have you tried these? They are called 'Feedback Busters'. A little cheaper than a new guitar, I should think, and you can send the balance to me. :D Al might have some in stock, or could point you to them.
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | I didn't see a drummer, so that means your stage volume isn't as high as it might be. But I do see your problem with feedback in covering a room with just your amp. I don't understand why the guitars aren't put into the house mix, but I also suspect that a church with a pipe organ like that one will have a picky music director.
As a general rule, I do think a guitar with a piezo pickup is going to sound a lot better through an amp that is designed for it.
Sidebar: I just sold a Parker Fly Deluxe, and I still think the piezo tone out of that guitar is as good as, if not better than, any electric guitar with a bridge piezo I have tried. And I have tried most of the stock models available. The mono sum switch makes it easy to use without a stereo cable and more complicated rig. In your case, I would explore a hybrid guitar.
In the meantime, the little anti-feedback plugs are a cheap and easy fix for the short-term. |
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Location: Chicago area | Paul, there is a drummer there...if you look behind us you will see him hiding back there. He did a great job of not getting too carried away and being as subtle as you can on acoustic drums.
I had considered the feedback buster plugs. I have one for my Takamine dreadnoght and it helps but does not eliminate the problem. I assumed that the same would be true of these. It may get me by, but I don't think I like that as the solution. I will think about that option too.
Does anyone feel that the Viper EA68 is a good solution or would hybrid meet my needs better? I am disappointed to find that the Crafter SA has a 1 3/4 nut...not used to that :-( |
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | The EA68 is a great guitar, and as good as any of its type. How it will sound through your Vox amp remains to be seen. Buying that guitar and an amp that will make it sound as good as it can and adding that to your set up is simply more complicated than getting a hybrid guitar. The reason I like the Parker is that the piezo does sound good through an amp designed for the gain of magnetic pickups and it doesn't require a stereo cable. You can get as fancy as you like once you get into this, though, and that means money. |
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Location: Tucson, AZ | FWIW -- I play my EA68-5 Viper through a '69 Fender Super Reverb-Amp with JBL/D110F's...works fine. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I ran my EA68 through a Marshall VS65R, and it puts out a surprisingly clean, powerful tone when I set the amp EQ flat. You can run it with extra muscle through your amp, as long as you're careful not to overdrive it - it just ends up distorted and lousy sounding.
For the money, I'd go with the Viper. Or, if you're seriously thinking about a T5, hit a GC or similar store - they should have at least one of the T5's to try running through various amps. Then, if that's what you decide you want, give Greg a call again - I'm pretty sure he carries Taylor too. |
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Location: Kingston Ontario | I had a similar problem with my Balladeer Special running through a Genz-Benz Shenandoah 85.
I purchased an LR Baggs Feedback Master for about $90. It has 2 notch filters as well as a polarity switch. You also get a very detaild operators manual.
You can clip it on your belt or mount it on a mikestand.
Once it is set you are in business. If you move around a lot on stage, you may have to tweek it a bit.
I tried using the soundhole mutes but that only partially solved the problem.
The Genz-Benz's enclusure has two tuned ports on the rear of the cabinet. If it is too close to a wall, the rear reflected sound will set the whole system howling. If your amp has this ported feature, try moving into some open space. I would try this before shelling out for the Baggs unit.
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Location: Minden, Nebraska | Cantom, that is a delightfully simple idea, too. In the past, there have been threads about the Behringer Shark, which is a lot of bang for the buck. If Ken likes the sound of his current rig, he might try getting a good notch cutter in there which might solve the problem relatively inexpensively.
Not nearly as fun as getting an EA68, though! |
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amp type for EA68?