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Jason_S
Posted 2006-10-27 12:32 AM (#234560)
Subject: acoustic amp


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ive got 3 'O's that i can plug in now..i think its time to get a good amp,does any one have any advice as what to look for what to stay away from..thanks jason..might have to ride down to rockville to the g.c tomorow with my folklore and try a few out..
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-10-27 12:35 AM (#234561 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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Huge range in price and options, Johnny. What do you intend to use it for? Practice or performance and if performing, how big a venue?
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gh1
Posted 2006-10-27 12:38 AM (#234562 - in reply to #234560)
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I love my Genz Beenz Shen. Jr. But I just play it in my home. FWIW

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Jason_S
Posted 2006-10-27 12:40 AM (#234563 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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just here at the house or when i go home to wva to jam with friends on weekends, we play in a 100yr old barn that my best friend converted in to his house/studio/shop.. just looking for that clean acoustic sound,no effects or any of that shit..jason
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-10-27 12:43 AM (#234564 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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jimmy's got a big fender and a couple p.a's...jason
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noah
Posted 2006-10-27 1:42 AM (#234565 - in reply to #234560)
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What is your budget?
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2006-10-27 1:53 AM (#234566 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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Hi there....seems that You have decided to "Walk the Line " :p may I suggest the KUSTOM siennaseries..American ..Acoustic Amps...3 models..: 16 watts..35 watts..65 watts
the 65 watts sports a 12" speaker&high frequency driver 2 instruments 1 mic input weighs 48 lbs. ( only a little heavy ) ;) and costs slightly more than the others ,the 65 watts is the only 1 that I have used and gives U value for money playing "around the house" and "Coffee gigs" alike,it holds up to it all,and above all,GOOD SOUND & ruggedly made,without dumping U in the "poorhouse" :p
Might be worth checking out ;)
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JeffreyD
Posted 2006-10-27 1:47 PM (#234567 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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OK...I will say it again....although expensive. Don't overlook Barbetta Sona....pretty sweet and smooth sounding, no fancy effects and 5 channels of connection (including a mic). My lowly 23C served in our church as the only PA for a year and handled 2 mics (with transformer on one) keyboard and two guitars and in a 100 person venue was clear as a bell (175w bi-amped, 15" and horn). These things get great reviews and are light to boot.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-10-27 1:54 PM (#234568 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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my oldst stepson aked what i wanted for xmas.i told him id like to have a new amp..i figure some where in the $200-400 range. we gotta take him to his friends tonight so im gonna swing by gc and try a few out with my horrific playing..im thinking some where in the 60-150 watt range with a single 12 or a pair of 12's..jason
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2006-10-27 1:57 PM (#234569 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp
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the Crate acoustics are pretty good and well-reviewed, and you can get them fairly inexpensively used. they are bi-amped and tri-amped depending on the model and have 2 or 3 independent channels, one of which is a dedicated xlr. I currently own a CA125 which weighs a ton but is very dependable. the CA60 model would be right up your alley... they also have the D versions which add some basic effects. if you can, play before you buy and use your guitar if possible.

Glenn
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an4340
Posted 2006-10-27 2:04 PM (#234570 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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To me, 150 watts is pretty big. It's also heavy (is your step son your roady?) ... I'd stay under 60 watts. I think you'll find something between 25 and 60 that'll fit your need, won't break your bank book, and won't give you a hernia. In that range I'd look at Crates and Fenders.

Also, I'd do a search here on wattage and volume. Paul Temp did a good posting on that a while ago. You'd be suprised how little extra wattage adds to volume.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-10-27 2:11 PM (#234571 - in reply to #234560)
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im gonna go and try a few out this evening..jason
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2006-10-27 2:30 PM (#234572 - in reply to #234560)
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I agree on the 150 being a little big actually a lot big for most in my opinion, my 125 is too much amp for me most of the time unless I'm playing out, at home the amps in use the most are 2)5 watt tube heads (epi juniors) and a little Kustom 16watt acoustic w/reverb. my electric amp is a Kustom Quad65 which is similar to the sienna mentioned above(but voiced for electric instead of acoustic) and in most cases is also too much power to be set upon a mobile home community.

35 to 60 watts in a good quality amp should be more than you need, and if not, feed it to the board or mike it.

Glenn
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-10-27 2:51 PM (#234573 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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You should try to score a Fender Acoustisonic Jr.

A Couple people around here use them. I sold my DSP version to Woody. Very loud, very clean. Older non-dsp units can be had for a couple of hudred.
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worshipleader
Posted 2006-10-27 2:54 PM (#234574 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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Genz-Benz Shenandoah Jr.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2006-10-27 3:13 PM (#234575 - in reply to #234560)
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I recently got a Roland AC 60. I love it.

Lightweight, 2 channels 1- 1/4' plug 2nd- 1/4' or XLR. Reverb, Chorus. 20 lbs.

Enough power to drive the neighbors crazy. :cool: :D
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2006-10-27 3:32 PM (#234576 - in reply to #234560)
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I use two Fender Acoustasonic Jrs with DSP, one for each channel on the stereo guitars. I recently picked up a Trace Elliott TA100R for gigging. The two different models are similar in features: multi channel, built-in effects, XLR capabilities in and out, EQ shaping, notch filter. They also differ in some areas: the Fender is louder, heavier, has better effects, costs at least $100 less in price on the used market, and offers a more crisp treble-like sound. The Trace is smaller and easier to handle for gigs, and probably provides a truer acoustic sound reproduction, but costs more and is more difficult to find as they have been out of production for some time. I am very satisfied with both models.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2006-10-27 11:45 PM (#234577 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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Psssst Johnny C..did U know that Your namesake had been using a P A made by kustom since the seventies ? actually His Son has donated that P A to KUSTOM for display in their museum ,do n`t know how to post a link ,but check YAHOO for their site , have a look at that P A , and the sienna serie might as well go all the way "Walking that Line" :) ..& the price is rather friendly ;)
...of course if it`s stereo that U need then that roland AC 60 would be a good bet..
Vic
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-10-28 12:02 AM (#234578 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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i think im gonna go with a rowland..its a small package but has a big sound..i forgot the model number on the way home..im gonna go back tomorow and buy it...jason
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2006-10-28 12:22 AM (#234579 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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My feeling is how often are you going to buy an Amp ? I had the same thoughts as you are having and I went with the Roland AC-60 with a Samson stand . It was more pricey than I was expecting but only by a $100.00. That sounded like a lot when I was looking but I will probably keep this Amp for the rest of my playing days
( maybe 10 years ? )so that works out to $10.00 a year or less than $1.00 a month.
Buy the best you can and you will not be sorry about it.This Amp has outstanding sound with two channels that have the best chorus and delay that I have heard on a small acoustical amplifier. ( masks your mistakes ) alot better .Well worth the money.
Good luck to you on your purchase. GWB
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2006-10-28 12:27 AM (#234580 - in reply to #234560)
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I screwed up , I meant to say the amp has a great REVERB & CHORUS and I said DELAY & CHORUS.
There is no DELAY on the Roland AC-60. GWB
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-10-28 2:39 AM (#234581 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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the one i tried and realy liked was 499.00 but they said they would take $475.99 cash. it was a rowland something or other. it was very compact but had a HUGE sound..jason
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2006-10-28 10:35 AM (#234582 - in reply to #234560)
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I got mine last year for $450.00 with the samson stand at our local music store.I had to barter on it but they did it for that.The hot shot at Guitar Center told me that nobody discounts the Roland AC-60 he was trying to get the list price of $599.00. You might want to check out E-Bay .GWB
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-10-28 12:12 PM (#234583 - in reply to #234560)
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I was just in our GC last night and they had the AC-60 on display, "marked down" to $599.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-10-28 2:39 PM (#234584 - in reply to #234560)
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its a ac-60...im going to a few shops it the city today and shop around a bit..jason
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2006-10-28 9:22 PM (#234585 - in reply to #234560)
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Jason if you check E-Bay look at item
# 250043377619 Roland AC-60 for $399.00
or # 220040589255 for $499.00
If you feel comfortable with E-Bay that might be the way to go or see if the store you are thinking of buying it from would match the price. GWB
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-10-28 9:38 PM (#234586 - in reply to #234560)
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i called the local shoip ive allways delt with in wva and they have got a few for $399.00. jason
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Cantom
Posted 2006-10-28 11:19 PM (#234587 - in reply to #234560)
Subject: Re: acoustic amp


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I like the Genz-Benz Shenandoah 85. Single 12 with a tweeter. Tone controls are pretty flexible.
It has two balanced inputs for a couple of mikes and can be mounted on a tripod (Included with mine). It has every conceivable output to drive a board.
Two of us plug in and use a floor monitor to get a nice clean sound. You tend to loose your bottom end when it is on the tripod and the monitor makes up for it.
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bobalu
Posted 2006-10-29 9:32 PM (#234588 - in reply to #234560)
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With respect to sound reproduction, I have yet to play through anything that beats the Fishman Loudbox. However, it is pricey, a bit heavy, and rather bare bones when it comes to features. Did I mention it sounds amazing? My own humble opinion, of course. Many good amps out there to choose from.
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rick endres
Posted 2006-10-30 9:18 AM (#234589 - in reply to #234560)
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Jason--

Here's another vote for the Roland AC60. Best amp I've ever had, guitar AND vocal channels, chorus, reverb, and mine has delay (I remember somebody posting his didn't have delay?). At least I THINK that's what it is. I turn this knob thingie and I sound like John Lennon on "A Day In The Life," where my voice is echoing and following itself around the room. Great sound and the light weight won't kill your back.

Also, Mark iIn Boise mentioned he saw where the amp was "marked down" to $599.00. Might want to investigate those folks-- the MSRP is $495.00, and I've seen them as low as $425.00 on sale at GC. If you get this amp, you won't be sorry. I quit using my effects box after I got it. Worth every penny.
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an4340
Posted 2006-10-30 10:09 AM (#234590 - in reply to #234560)
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Roland AC60 is an excellent choice.
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an4340
Posted 2006-10-30 11:52 AM (#234591 - in reply to #234560)
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Gives an idea of the price
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aikido777
Posted 2006-10-30 12:09 PM (#234592 - in reply to #234560)
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an4340

Just as an FYI, the link you gave is a Cube 60 which is different than the AC60. The Cube 60 is geared towards electric whereas the AC60 is geared towards acoustic.
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an4340
Posted 2006-10-30 2:06 PM (#234593 - in reply to #234560)
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yep, knew that, but just wanted to give you a ball park idea about price for used.

But let me say, at low to med volumes it'll work. To me, at high volumes that's where I really notice the difference.
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aikido777
Posted 2006-10-30 5:55 PM (#234594 - in reply to #234560)
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The Cube 60 is a great little amp for the electric. Joe Walsh is known to use them quite a bit.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2006-10-30 7:18 PM (#234595 - in reply to #234560)
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Unless U want stereo.. :)
Vic
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