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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Read that Adrian Legg had a SSB Adamas.
Any ideas? Any pics? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dave bought it and I believe sold it to Jerome in France. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Check the "For Sale' section for the last 6-8 months and you may find info. I also bet it is on Jerome's tribute site. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Jerome? Where's his site? |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | http://www.ovationtribute.com |
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Location: Scotland | That guitar Witko had was custom made for Alan Holdsworth, not Adrian Legg. It was interesting because it was a non-cutaway SSB, which is pretty unusual
I may be wrong but I don't think there was ever a production SSB Adamas 1. The Adamas 2 SSB was only availble for a few years, around the mid-90's if memory serves |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Great, thanks, so they were available - boo hoo hoo |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Adrian's was special for him, but that's a story for another day. The history of the 93 is enuf for today. |
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Location: Orange County, California | Alan Holdsworth is a tool for letting his wind up in Guitar Center in need of a neck reset.... |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 2487
| Are those drop tuning tuners available somewhere? I think I heard they were Banjo tuners or something once. I am considering setting one up similiar to Mr. Legg's someday. |
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Location: Scotland | The tuners Legg used were Schaller "Scruggs" banjo tuners, which were less expensive copies of the original Bill Keith pegs. They need to be drilled to take the bigger gauges on a guitars 5th and 6th strings. They're not cheap.
Watch this space. I have a new product becoming available soon. Does the same job as the Scruggs banjo tuners, but uses your existing tuners. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | ". . I have a new product becoming available soon . ."
I've seen what he's talking about, and it's absolute "tits"!! . . .
VeryCool!! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | If it's absolute "tits", then I'm definitely interested |
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Location: Scotland | OK, pictures tomorrow. I've had a sales rep on the road with these for a while so I've been sitting back a little. Time to get my ass in gear. Pictures will be of the product. There will be no "tits" as such. Unless my moobs get in the way. |
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Location: NJ | Keep the the bathrobe closed, then.
You forget, I've seen first-hand how you conduct "business" in the morning . . .
y'SexyBitch. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | The nearer I get to boarding that plane to the UK... the more nervous I get. |
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Location: SoCal | you should be nervous..... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | The first guitar we made for Adrian they were Keith tuners, $100 a key. |
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| Great Paul, Please let us know when you have something. I was thinking about the drop D tuners but these must be set up for each string?? I would think?? perhaps not. I am going through thoughts of tension differences between gauges but they all span the same distance. No matter. I don't need to understand. And I don't want to alter the headstock to make anuything fit.
And Bill !!! that story about the Baritones is amazing! Entwistle! Holy crap man how cool is coming up with an idea for a few more frets on the low end from a simple conversation with a Bass guitar genius like John.
Shame about John, he loved the Rock and Roll lifestyle, and it was a real loss. But what a musician. I'll bet you have a lot of stories like that. Can't wait to meet you at one of these group gig's.
Thanks again Paul for the heads up, I want to try some experimental stuff soon. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | John was just drinking. Steve and I had the conversation walking back to the hotel. Not sure where John was by then, probably back at his hotel. He had a driver and limo...... |
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| Whoops. Yep read it again. No matter it is your connection to this that is cool. Great things can come from the simplest situations. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | and simple minds............ |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Mauvais, spill the beans on Leggs guitars, you know you want to. |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
OK, pictures tomorrow. I've had a sales rep on the road with these for a while so I've been sitting back a little. Time to get my ass in gear. Pictures will be of the product. There will be no "tits" as such. Unless my moobs get in the way. Temp,
Honeymoon over? :p |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Was this thread about the Adamas SSBs? I love them. I have two, an 1881 textured top CA and a wood topped proto non CA. The 1881 is my primary rehearsal guitar and I often use it for performances. I don't use the proto as often due to it being a non CA, but the 1547 proto of nearly the same vintage is almost the same guitar only with a CA and a different preamp. As has been said many times here, for plugged-in gigging, the SSBs are really difficult to beat. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | ProfessorBB - aha, pics please. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Adamas SSB wood-topped proto on the left, Ovation 1547 SSB proto on the right.
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | WOW! Gorgeous. |
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| Paul, any progress on these tuners? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I first met and got to know Adrian Legg in Frankfort in the mid 70's. He was the guitar tech and demo man for Rose-Morris who was the UK distributor for Ovation at the time.
Fast forward to the late early 90's, Trace had just introduced the acoustic amplifier and they were coming over to help Kaman launch it and were bring a demo man. Mark Gooday, the MD of Trace said to me "You'll love this guy, he's totally unknown and a great player. We found him driving a delivery truck in northern England."
So we go to the NAMM show in Chicago and go into the sound room where he's running the amp through it's paces. When he's done and it gets quiet Mark says, "Bill, I'd like to introduce you, come on over here." Adrian looks up and say "Hi Bill". I go "Hey Adrian". Mark Gooday is gobsmacked and speachless. I said, "That lowden you'er playing isn't really making it" And Adrian replies "Been meaning to talk to you about that"
So we sit down right there and design his black SSB adamas, with all Keith keys.
As soon as Adrian got it several months later the first thing he did was take a pocket knife to all the braces and carve the living shit out of everything, a little bit at a time, just to be scientific about it. He told me at one point he got it too weak, I think he was in Des Moins and he took his pocket knife to the picture frame in the hotel room and got some wood and super glued it into place to build the brace back up.
As I recall all that was special about the guitar was the Keith tuners and ebony fingerboard(I think it had ebony) and being super shallow. He may have had a bone saddle.
His main objective was to get something that would fit into the overhead bin on an airline so he'd never have to check it.
There's the story on Adrian's guitar. |
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Location: Indiana | Great story Beal. Thanks. |
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| Adrian may not have become the most famous of the musicians Ovation helped/worked with. But Wow! what a guitarist this guy is! Watching him is mesmerizing.
Bill you have so many great stories! What a cool thing it is to have you here. This is great stuff. |
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Location: SoCal | Gee Beal, can you just tell everybody a cool story every night at bedtime? |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | WOW Beal. Awesome. Thanks for sharing.
So it was a one off custom build? |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Beale's going to tell us bedtime stories at the North Carolina jam. Maybe he could organize a powerpoint presentation to go with it? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | no, the NC jam could be a story in the future....... |
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Location: GA USA | To me, this has been a year of interesting OFC stories, with the Amelia thing and all. I think it's been a good one for us to this point. |
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