progress on my balladeer(NOW MORE WORK!!!)
Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-09 10:29 PM (#232322)
Subject: progress on my balladeer(NOW MORE WORK!!!)


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here's a few pics of some of the work ive done on my 1111-1 balladeer

before the new peghead veneer



after the new veneer



not too bad for my first go round with veneer..jason
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-09 10:48 PM (#232323 - in reply to #232322)
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does any one think the new veneer clashes with the rest of the guitar? im kinda anxious to se what you guys think of my work..jason
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-11-09 10:52 PM (#232324 - in reply to #232322)
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I think it looks great!
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-09 11:00 PM (#232325 - in reply to #232322)
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hey thanks!!! my skills are somewhat limited by the tools i have since i my workshop was robbed last month. i did all the work on it with a few hand tools i had left..excato knife,2 peices of ply for the clamping surface and alot of sanding!! the hardest part was getting the cruve just right where the lip is..

i think they came with walnut on the headstock but i couldnt find a peice of walnut veneer that looked right. i used some nice mahog..thanks jason
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-09 11:23 PM (#232326 - in reply to #232322)
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heres a pic of the top cracks that i repaired..not the best job but its solid now...

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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-11-09 11:46 PM (#232327 - in reply to #232322)
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I think it is looking very nice...good job.
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muzza
Posted 2006-11-09 11:48 PM (#232328 - in reply to #232322)
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Originally posted by johnnycash83:
does any one think the new veneer clashes with the rest of the guitar? im kinda anxious to se what you guys think of my work..jason
Jason, it's hard to comment without seeing it 'with the rest of the guitar'!

Looks like good workmanship though.
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colt357
Posted 2006-11-10 12:18 AM (#232329 - in reply to #232322)
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Jason, looking good! Nice work. I think the Mahogony will look just fine. Keep posting pics of your progress.
Dave
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philmax
Posted 2006-11-10 12:27 AM (#232330 - in reply to #232322)
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doing great jason, you might have a future in lutherie! Keep it up! Phil
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2006-11-10 8:05 AM (#232331 - in reply to #232322)
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You're inspiring me to buy a beat-up project guitar of my own to work on.
John <>{
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muzza
Posted 2006-11-10 8:07 AM (#232332 - in reply to #232322)
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Buy my 2005ES!
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-10 8:43 AM (#232333 - in reply to #232322)
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thanks guys!!!!..jason
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muzza
Posted 2006-11-10 9:13 AM (#232334 - in reply to #232322)
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D'ya think Al might be able to get his hands on an 'Ovation' decal for the headstock???
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-10 9:16 AM (#232335 - in reply to #232322)
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i paid $50 for it,veneer was $20,.ive got $70 and probly like a total 0f 20hrs in to it to date. the most time consuming prosess was filling the top cracks...scrape,clean,glue,wet sand,repeat as needed....

i may add a 2knob preamp to this one...who knows. i was gonna sell it but i strung it today and it plays like a dream..jason
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-11-10 9:16 AM (#232336 - in reply to #232322)
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Just call the Mothership... as with everything else, they're great about sending out the decals when they're needed.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-10 9:17 AM (#232337 - in reply to #232322)
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the decal is on the way from master keller,along with some much needed supplies for other projects...jason
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Beal
Posted 2006-11-10 9:22 AM (#232338 - in reply to #232322)
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You keep that kind of work up and you'll have to go to the big house and work there!
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rededdie
Posted 2006-11-10 9:22 AM (#232339 - in reply to #232322)
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Looks great, Jason
Have you had a chance to string it up and listen to it yet?
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-10 9:36 AM (#232340 - in reply to #232322)
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ive had it strung a few weeks ago when i first glued up the peg head and it sounds great...thanks bill,its amazing what one can do with enough freetime and a few simple hand tools...jason
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-10 10:12 AM (#232341 - in reply to #232322)
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hey bill,whats the story behind the academy line? ive got a KA-14 as well








this was right after i got it,i had the strings off of a good cleaning,repainted the fingerboard and replaced the dots with abalone dots..jason
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-10 11:50 AM (#232342 - in reply to #232322)
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i just found this pic of the back of the neck/headstock that was repaired..its not as pretty or clean as the peghead

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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-11-11 6:43 AM (#232343 - in reply to #232322)
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The thing about selling something like that is that after you work on it, get it right, and it sounds good... Hey, I'm keeping this!
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an4340
Posted 2006-11-11 8:34 AM (#232344 - in reply to #232322)
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good work!
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-11-11 8:46 AM (#232345 - in reply to #232322)
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Jason - nice work!

Mike
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-11 1:59 PM (#232346 - in reply to #232322)
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thanks guy's,its just a hobby to take up my spare time..altho im getting kinda good at it..jason
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philmax
Posted 2006-11-11 9:13 PM (#232347 - in reply to #232322)
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thanks for showing your work, looks good! phil
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-12 12:36 AM (#232348 - in reply to #232322)
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looked good untill lastnight when i was buffing the top and i moved the wrong way and the bad disc i got hit a nerve...i just droped to the floor,buffer hit the top,there's a 10in crack in the right side of the top now...i may beable to repair it but im not shure yet..i went to my doctor today and the onr thing ive been fearing ive got to get done...sugery..not fun at all....

i hope i can fix the top because ive allready don so much work to it and put in many hours that i just dont wanna pitch it...oh well....thanks for the compliments guys...jason
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muzza
Posted 2006-11-12 4:19 AM (#232349 - in reply to #232322)
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Hey Jason

Ever thought about putting strings on any of your guitars???

Probably get a bit more volume out of 'em! ;-)
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-12 2:19 PM (#232350 - in reply to #232322)
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that was right after i got the academy,it had lots of crud on it...and i was installing new abalone fretboard dodts and repainted the board black.....kinda hard to do with strings on it.....jason
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-13 9:56 PM (#232351 - in reply to #232322)
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well things were going too good with the project..untill i moved the wrong way and my body went numb(pinched nerve in my back)..dropped a buffer on the top..



i filled it and reglued the braces but it looks like shit now....looks like ive got a canidate for a re top now......it wasnt a clean break and you can see the light colored spruce where the finish cracked..jason
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philmax
Posted 2006-11-14 1:31 AM (#232352 - in reply to #232322)
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you are going to try to do the top yourself, right? That metalic sticker looks cool!!!
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-14 1:36 AM (#232353 - in reply to #232322)
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this top is sound,its just ugly as hell,ive got it strung with extra lights and it sounds fine...just this one aint gonna have much of a resale value..i might keep it for a "autograph book" to be sighned at gatherings and such...who knows...if it was a natural finish the crack wouldnt look near as bad..as for the lable its the foil label, it was buitl in '71...it sounds great....thats why i realy dont wanna retop....jason
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philmax
Posted 2006-11-14 1:59 AM (#232354 - in reply to #232322)
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Don't blame ya there, phil
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-14 2:37 AM (#232355 - in reply to #232322)
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im tepted to stick the f%ker in a box and send it to some un-suspecting ofcer for xmas...lol jason
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philmax
Posted 2006-11-14 11:22 AM (#232356 - in reply to #232322)
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yeah, especially because you seem to be able to pull $90 legends out of your yingyang!!!

but if do decide bestow it upon an Ofcer for Xmas, that Kalel kid has a friend that can thoroughly destroy a top!
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-14 2:01 PM (#232357 - in reply to #232322)
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if i could strip the top down to the natural the repairs wouldnt be as visiable.

yeah phil,i bet he could also destroy the perfect fiberglass bowl too..lol

i havnt deceide what im gonna do with it yet..might keep it to take out when we go to the beach or out on the boat..jason
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colt357
Posted 2006-11-14 8:30 PM (#232358 - in reply to #232322)
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Jason, I think you should keep that guitar and use it as a yardstick for your Luthier projects. I call that an "Appreciation Guitar". As you progress with your projects, pull this one down and compare where you're at and where you were at with this one. It will give you an appreciation of where you are improving. And 20 years down the road you still have a guitar for the beach or the "new player you're are showing how to play their first "D" or "G". And who knows, maybe someday you'll pull it down and bring it up to where you're at then. Guitars with history are "cool"!

Dave
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-14 11:06 PM (#232359 - in reply to #232322)
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has any one here striped down a spruce top?? i realy wanna save the 30+yr old spruce top...jason
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