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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 396
| Edensharvest, about your Koa 12-string ......
I was going to ask you about the specs before your thread was closed (I don't like seeing info squashed like that).
Anyway, a beautiful 12-string! Is it essentially a custom legend with a Koa top or did you have anything else done that was a custom order item? How long did it take? Any flaws to the entire custom order process in your opinion? I've never heard anyone here with a bad experience ordering a custom/special order guitar from the factory. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | I don't believe that that thread was closed to prevent others from learning about the guitar.
Any dealer can order a special guitar, there is nothing special about where that guitar came from.
It is a beautiful guitar and probably sounds great. I believe that the specs have been called out in another post here somewhere. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15667
Location: SoCal | 12 strings are such great guitars... everybody should own one.
Ovations has always been known for it's great 12's, and today, they are building some of the best 12's they have ever built. When I first picked up an LX 12, I was blown away by the sound. And this comes from somebody who's main 12 is an early 90's Adamas I .... |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | That one is an X brace guitar and will have a very different sound from the earlier 15s and 18s. The Koa will figure into that too. Andrew, it looks like it could use a bit of oil on the bridge, which will darken it up a bit as well as help the wood. |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804
Location: ranson,wva | it shure is a beutiful guitar,..jason |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
12 strings are such great guitars... everybody should own one. One ??? Yeah, right. Dave |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804
Location: ranson,wva | i wanna get a adamas 12 or a new balladeer 12..or both...jason |
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Location: SoCal | ... at least one.....?
Ok, how about, "everybody should own at least 3"? |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | All these years and I've never been bitten by the 12-string bug. Probably because I have hobbit hands and they are a pain to tune. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | I've only got one,
well maybe that's really three. |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804
Location: ranson,wva | do you have a 12 string national bill?
..jason |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759
Location: Boise, Idaho | My 12s (I've only owned one at a time) are my least played guitar. Not so much because it's harder to fret and tune, but I just don't play much that takes a 12. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | ". . I've only got one,
well maybe that's really three . ."
It's gotta be more than one, 'cuz I've got one here (LongNeck12), which got used today t'put the finishing touches on the Vol.2 submission.
(HangOn, Dave!! . . . the disk is being overnighted . . .) |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | That's the third one. The other is #1000, the dark blue one and I recently got #2000 which was at chk's and is the twin to 1000. Only #1000 is south
No 12 string Nationals. |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | Again, Andrew...congratulations.
I am curious how the Koa (versus spruce) stands up to a 12-string. My assumption is that it has a deeper, softer voice. We await your observations.
I have always been impressed by the Ovation/Adamas 12's.
Currently, a small rosette shiny bowl, two 1658 slothead Custom Legends, a 1659 Custom Legend, an Adamas I, an Adamas II, Preacher Deluxe, and Hamer Newport. Oh, one non-Kaman - the 1966 Wurlitzer (Italian made)since I didn't find a good Hurricane. Have also had the GC and 1118 slothead CL.
Had played a Martin D-18 12-str for 9-10 years...then played a Custom Legend (1118) - won't go back.
The post was closed, not deleted due to the actions of the poster...IMHO, Mile's actions were appropriate and appreciated. Vile and false attacks are not appropriate. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 4394
Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
... at least one.....?
Ok, how about, "everybody should own at least 3"? OK I have three. Do I have to stop there? :confused:
BTW Does the KOA make a big difference in the sound? |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 1116
Location: Keller, TX | I tried a 12 string once. Was a celebrity that was too hard to play. Just wasn't my thing. I guess I'll have to get a REAL "O" 12 to play. |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 4394
Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by ttenn:
I tried a 12 string once. Was a celebrity that was too hard to play. Just wasn't my thing. I guess I'll have to get a REAL "O" 12 to play. My first Ovation was a 12 string. A pacemaker I bought in 1972. I still have it and it still plays great. I also have a 1758 Elite which is an awesome sounding and looking guitar.
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 3736
Location: Sunshine State, Australia | I played a 12 string for the first time in umpteen years 2 days ago. It was a Yamaha and all 12 strings seemed equally spaced. Really hard to gauge where your fingers were for pickin'.
Then yesterday, I picked up a Celebrity 12 string and it was almost like pluckin' a 6 string. I can only imagine, but I'd assume a USA 12 would be even nicer, but I've got other GAS priorities. (Startin' with workin' out how to tell the missus about the 2005ES in the garage!)
Not played a 12 string for about 15 years, then 2 in 2 days. (Like buses, I guess) |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Owww!!.....that looks like my 1537 but with 12 strings, curious how it sounds compared to my 1618 (which is a 12 fret guitar) ,I have gotta get 1 of these..wonder what it ( used ) would cost these days :)
Vic |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804
Location: ranson,wva | after i order my custom adamas my next o' will be a new balladeer 12 string. i played on at GC last weekend and loved it,the inlay on the rosette is beautiful,strings are apaced just right,sweet profile on the neck...jason |
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Joined: March 2006 Posts: 1634
Location: Chehalis, Washington | To answer questions:
Englishplayer, it's a standard Custom Legend C759LX 12-string, with these upgrades:
Figured & Flamed Koa top & TRC
Rosewood fingerboard (still w/inlays)
Walnut headstock, carved walnut bridge
OP-Pro/Studio preamp
The major difference is the Koa and the "trim" stuff, like the carved bridge, which IMHO Ovation should never have gotten away from as a standard CL feature.
Tony, and others, the Koa is simply amazing on a deep-body 12-string. I don't have a direct comparison here in spruce, but from playing my dad's Balladeer for years, I can tell you that the Koa is much warmer, softer, and almost sweeter in a way than the spruce. At the risk of sounding a little "new age" here, it's almost a mysterious, secretive sound, as though the wood has yet to open up and reveal it's full tone and warmth, but it just gives enough of that shimmering, vibrant 12-string sound that I can only imagine what it will sound like after it opens up fully.
It'll take some getting used to playing 12 strings and a wider neck again - obviously my hand is out of shape. One more good reason to play her more... |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 1138
Location: CT | If you want deeper and darker, get one of the solid bodies with the the notch switch. Very cool. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | Koa is kind of new agey but keep in mind that Martin made all koa guitars in the 20's and 30's. I've got a O-18K and a friend has OO-28. Wonderful sounding guitars.
You got to go with different tops, can't use mahogony or rosewood, or walnut or.... back and sides!
I'd bet this is a great sounding guitar, 12s can be bright and the "darkenness of the koa" would be a good counter balance. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13988
Location: Upper Left USA | I got to bond with this one in a noisy lobby over the weekend. A couple of passers-by got guitar whiplash as they nearly passed!
And it wasn't cuz of my playing!
Someone needs to custom order a baritone Koa LX so I can really get GAS! |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by MWoody:
Someone needs to custom order a baritone Koa LX so I can really get GAS! You should go for it Woody. Just cancel that other one you were thinking about :D
I have a feeling that the 2080's will have a nice bottom end to them. We already know from reports that the 6 string 2080D is a killer guitar so here's hoping that the 12 string version is just as devastating! |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13988
Location: Upper Left USA | You don't cancel orders when your Dealer is from Jersey. It's not the smart thing to do!
They'll be there next year... |
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Joined: March 2006 Posts: 1634
Location: Chehalis, Washington | Mike, don't get me started again...I just got past the idea that a baritone would be cool...
They should put warning labels on this site - DO NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM DOSAGE! MAY CAUSE SEVERE GAS!!! :D
Actually, my toying thought is a mid-bowl 2078LX with a dark-stained cedar top, bass-only soundholes with Koa epaulet, tortoise shell binding on the body and neck, carved walnut bridge and headstock, gold hardware, black walnut fretboard with the old Elite-style inlays, 1 3/4" neck, Studio preamp...
Obviously, I haven't given this any thought at all! ;) |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Andrew , and..have them make it as a Jumbo ;)
:cool:
Vic |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | A parlor jumbo. |
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Joined: March 2006 Posts: 1634
Location: Chehalis, Washington | Isn't that a contradiction in terms? ;) |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13988
Location: Upper Left USA | Jumbo-Shrimp?
Naval Intelligence?
Oxymorons... |
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