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Location: Central Massachusetts | So let's say somebody was putting together a breadwinner limited type guitar. Theoretically. ;)
And not having access to original electronics, they were thinking "out of the box" and looking for a single-coil kinda sound. :eek:
And let's say they weren't too concerned about the existing pick guard and pickup cavity shapes/sizes/locations... :rolleyes:
Anybody got any recommendations? theoretically? ;)
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Location: SoCal | Well, the BW Ltd had humbuckers, not sinle coils. So I assume that you're more intersted in the shape, not the sound? |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Well, I'd go with humbuckers, and put in two signal spliter switches one for each humbucker, that way you could get a single coil sound when you wanted, or various combinations thereof ... then for the electronics one tone and one volume control, a four way switch, which would be bridge, both in parralel, neck, both in series. On the tone knob, one of those passive Torres midrange things, with the outer knob being the regular tone control, and the inner knob being a mid-range control. It would be pretty clean looking and give a wide pallette of sound.
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Location: Upper Left USA | TV Jones site for Pups and such
Seymour Duncan Tone Wizard
Seymour Antiquity Pickups at Warmoth
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Location: Upper Left USA | As for what Rick said, I still have this PG with the Air Norton HBs. It uses a Blender in lieu of a 3 way and the Volume switch is a Lift Switch to make the HB a single coil.
I have it in drawer...
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | "The condemned heretic was tied to a stake surrounded by faggots"
Holy crap, that's a vision! |
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Location: SoCal | Woodrow, doesn't that last comment belong in the "I'm so bored" or "88 Collectors sighting" threads? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | :rolleyes: Good fit!
BTW - part time Heretic, your neck is looking good! Few more days... |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Saliva is a highly recommended solvent. |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Paul, frankly, yes. I haven't ever heard an original breadwinner so for the moment I'm more interested in the shape of the body and neck.
If I can get my hands on original electronics, or Melmoth is able to reproduce them, I can always revert to the original bits without much effrort.
Meantime, might as well have fun with it and scratch an itch.
Rick, is this the config for an existing guitar, something you've done, or just a concept? Sounds intriguing. How would you compare the split humbucker tone to traditional single-coil?
Thanks! And I'll pass on the sack of gunpowder. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I have wondered what a Breadwinner with P90's style pickups would sound like. |
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Originally posted by MWoody:
your neck is looking good! Few more days...  |
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Location: Upper Left USA | "I have wondered what a Breadwinner with P90's style pickups would sound like."
Miles, hopefully soon I'll swap you a Mahogany Viper, string thru, Piezo Bridge and P90 for your Thru neck while I make a pickguard for you.
It will need to be tested by a little more than Moody Chords!
The beauty of the Ovation Pickguard set up is that you can remove/replace them with a different personality in about 15 minutes by exchanging PGs. |
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Location: GA USA | I've got a recommendation. Glue that chunk back on and make a proper looking Breadwinner. |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | DVD - I may have an extra set of original electronics... I seem to have lost track of the amount of stuff that I have acquired lately. I'll check tonight and let you know.
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Originally posted by Captain_Lovehandles:
I've got a recommendation. Glue that chunk back on and make a proper looking Breadwinner. Ya got yer Elvis types and your Beatles types. And ya got yer Breadwinner types and your Limited types. :D |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Rick, is this the config for an existing guitar, something you've done, or just a concept? Sounds intriguing. How would you compare the split humbucker tone to traditional single-coil?
Nope not a concept, it's real!
The electronic switching are in my current build, a tele caster copy, that is ramped up. I love the series setting because it makes the two single coils sound like a warm humbucker, it would probably put two humbuckers over the top. The midrange thing is great, worth $200 but torres only charges $25. The bridge is bill lawrence tele pup and the neck pup is also from bill lawrence, the tele one, but it is effectively a small strat pup. Neck pup does not sounds like a tele neck, more strat like.
As for the splitter switch, I don't own a guitar with one, but I've played them, and they sound very straty, not like a telecaster pickup. If it were me, because I'm a tele guy, I'd go with a bill lawrence tele in the bridge, and and S duncan in the neck with a signal split. Then with the electronics as set out above. Man that'd be sweet. You'd get that great tele sound when you want from the bridge, you'd have a strat sound from the neck pick when it's split, you'd have a warm humbucker in the neck, you get a strat/tele hybrid sound with the thing in parallel, with the switch either spliting or not, you'd get nice humbucker sound with both in series with a split, and then in series with the bridge and the full humbucker ... Wow.
Let us know what you settle on. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | take a look at Kurt Koehler's concepts from the Breadwinner site.
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Thanks Mr. Brooks And of course, with the birth of the artist came the inevitable afterbirth - the critic. |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | You might try the P-94. It's a P-90 in a humbucker size case. |
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Single-coil sound...