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| I have a Balladeer 1661 (the first model that was a cutaway) in my guitar collection. I am curious as to what Ovation would call the body style, based on "traditional" terms. The guitar's proportions seem to be more hourglass than a dreadnought, so my guess is that it might better be described as an auditorium sized guitar, similar to an OM Martin (a 14 fret version of the OOO). Thanks for any thoughts you might have. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | You're pretty close, since, as I recall from the "book," that they used a Martin as bench mark. But I look at them and see them as their own distinct animals and just call it the ovation body style. |
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Location: CT | I agree. Not quit OM, not nearly dreadnought (which I find a little boring), and to me they are a very pleasing shape. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | It is a very unique shape. I haven't seen any other manufacturer use it. OM style is as close as any. I'm using a slightly modified "O" shape on the guitar I'm building... and very curious as to how it will sound when finished... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | It's the Ovation shape. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | So... who is Robert L. Martin ? |
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Location: ranson,wva | hows that project coming jeff? jason |
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Location: East Tennessee | Here's the scoop:
Martin Guitar Body Sizes
Dreadnought: Body Length: 20"
Body Width: 15 5/8"
OOO: Body Length: 19 3/8"
Body Width: 15"
00 : Body Length :18 7/8"
Body Width: 14 5/16"
Ovation: Body Length: 20 1/4"
Body Width: 15 3/4"
Martin Dimensions taken from an Elderly Instruments Catalog. There are slight variations depending on if it is a 12 or 14 fret model.
Ovation Dimensions taken by me from my 1624 Country Artist hanging on the wall. Body depths were not given because of different bowl depths . :D
Ovation most closely resembles a Martin OOO
12 fret slothead. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
So... who is Robert L. Martin ? So no one is going to bite?? |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Lot's of Robert L. Martin's on google.
A retired Chief Technology Officer for Bell Laboratories.
A Certified Wildlife Biologist
A soldier KIA in the Korean war
A deceased lawyer for the Peace Corps
An artist and designer working in ceramics, photography, and architecture
A deceased South Side land developer from Chicago
An editor of various publications about the Liars Paradox
A Principle Geologist for the Corps of Engineers
and yet somehow I doubt any of these are the one you are referring to. ;) |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I usually stay out of guessing games, because generally I have no idea what anyone is talking about... :rolleyes:
On the other topic, I have to say I'm surprised that at a comparison the Ovation body is both wider and longer than Martins. It just makes it more amazing that I've never played with a Martin of any size or shape that was more comfortable than an Ovation to hold and play, yet the O's are bigger. One more stroke of genius from the bowl guys! |
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Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
So... who is Robert L. Martin ? So no one is going to bite?? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by johnnycash83:
hows that project coming jeff? jason s s s s l o o o o o o o o o w
(which is fine) |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Well I'm really surprised about this. I guess I get the King Of All Geeks award this week. I really thought some of the Ovation Trivia buffs would know this.
Robert L. Martin worked for Kaman aerospace back in the day, and was in charge of the department that ran the Applause project. Although he himself was not that involved, he is credited on the Patent for the Bowl design as its Inventor.
Shame on you all for not knowing this !!!! :( |
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Location: East Tennessee | No Prize. :( |
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Location: NJ | He was also relegated to sit at the card table every Thanksgiving in Nazareth, PA . . . |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | "Knowledge itself is the prize"
mating call of the trivia geek. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Match the following mating calls to their Owner:
"Oh, if I have one more drink I'll lose all my self control!"
"All the blondes are gone!"
"So my ex left a whole bunch of guitar cases in the attic before he ran off with his Secretary and I got the restaining order. It's OK, cuz he wasn't even in a Band. Are you in a Band?"
"Wha-a-a-a-Yeep! Wha-a-a-a-Yeep-achoo!" |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
I guess I get the King Of All Geeks award this week. This week? |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by MWoody:
Match the following mating calls to their Owner:
"Oh, if I have one more drink I'll lose all my self control!"
"All the blondes are gone!"
"So my ex left a whole bunch of guitar cases in the attic before he ran off with his Secretary and I got the restaining order. It's OK, cuz he wasn't even in a Band. Are you in a Band?"
"Wha-a-a-a-Yeep! Wha-a-a-a-Yeep-achoo!" 1) Cliff.
2) Cliff.
3) Madonna.
4) Cliff. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | well..... since no one else has gone for it....
"Ovation Body Style"
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Ovation Body Style