Whats your least favorite chord..
Yak
Posted 2006-12-14 6:38 PM (#226559)
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Whats your least favorite chord to play? You know, the ones that just don't feel like a human should be doing.

Im really new to guitar so I dont have a vast chordal knowledgebase. But that silly Bb Barre just aint right!
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cliff
Posted 2006-12-14 6:48 PM (#226560 - in reply to #226559)
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I always have an aversion to Eb.
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Dan R.
Posted 2006-12-14 6:48 PM (#226561 - in reply to #226559)
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B and Bb or for that matter,any bar chord on a 12 string.
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Brian T
Posted 2006-12-14 6:51 PM (#226562 - in reply to #226559)
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Something about G7 just rubs me the wrong way.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2006-12-14 6:52 PM (#226563 - in reply to #226559)
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..umbilical...
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-12-14 6:54 PM (#226564 - in reply to #226559)
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I've gotten really good at capoing and transcribing anything with a Bb or Eb.
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Yak
Posted 2006-12-14 6:57 PM (#226565 - in reply to #226559)
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Originally posted by Brian T:
Something about G7 just rubs me the wrong way.
I agree.. Lousy feeling and lousy sounding.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2006-12-14 7:06 PM (#226566 - in reply to #226559)
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I absolutely agree on B♭ and B, so I almost always play them as barre chords unless I don't want or need the F or F♯ notes (quite rare), in which event they become simple one-finger chords. I started playing D with only two fingers very early on, so a four-fingered E♭ on five strings eventually came relatively easy, although probably not technically the right or preferred method. I'm looking forward to reading other comments on this thread.
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gh1
Posted 2006-12-14 7:07 PM (#226567 - in reply to #226559)
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A certain voicing of a m7 where the root is on the 6th sting, the third is on the 3rd string, the fifth is on the 2nd string and the seventh is on the 1st string.

Not impossible to fret but darn hard to hit clean on tempo, for me at least.

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gh1
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-12-14 7:29 PM (#226568 - in reply to #226559)
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My favourite would be a 1937 Cord Convertable.


But all chords have their time and place.
G7? Just let it hang a bit before you resolve to a C and you'll like it a whole lot more.

Bb? Most flat keys suck to play on guitar...with the possible exception of Eb, the non-singers key. (everyone can sing in Eb! You sing flat naturally? You're halfway there!)

Aug6th's, those I have a spot of bother with. Fortunately, they don't come up much.
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TRboy
Posted 2006-12-14 8:09 PM (#226569 - in reply to #226559)
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I have trouble making a Bm7-5 clean and with speed 'cause of my fat fingers.....

xxxxxx
xoxoxx
xxoxox
xxxxxx


.....Hey Paul,(moody p.i.) Which of your three chords is your least favorite? ;)
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-14 8:32 PM (#226570 - in reply to #226559)
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Dis
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an4340
Posted 2006-12-14 8:39 PM (#226571 - in reply to #226559)
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one of those crazy delightful sounding brazilian things
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-14 8:46 PM (#226572 - in reply to #226559)
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...like me trying to make a three finger first position "A"
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Capo Guy
Posted 2006-12-14 8:59 PM (#226573 - in reply to #226559)
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Bb and Eb

I tune down to D a use a capo.

So Eb becomes E with capo on the 1st fret.

I have a key transposing program so I can transcribe the chords to any key I want.

Anything played in the key of F, (which will usually include the dreaded Bb) can be played in G by removing the capo.

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alpep
Posted 2006-12-14 9:08 PM (#226574 - in reply to #226559)
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minor 7 flat 5
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Omaha
Posted 2006-12-14 9:16 PM (#226575 - in reply to #226559)
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Thanks to a well broken finger back in high school, I really can't make the "A" shape bar chords like these:

E A D G B e
2 2 x x x 2
x x 4 4 4 x

Depending on how the voicing works, I usually just let the high e string get muffled. Or sometimes I'll play a fakey version like this:

E A D G B e
0 0 x x x 0
x x 4 4 4 x

If the song is in E Major, then that actually works pretty well most of the time.

Eb is not a problem once you get used to barring the "C" chord shape. But if a song has an Eb in it, it is probably flat happy all the way through, which usually means five minutes of absolutely uninterrupted barre chords, and my hand always cramps up.

But to answer the question, my least favorite chord is the wrong one.
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TRboy
Posted 2006-12-14 9:22 PM (#226576 - in reply to #226559)
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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
...like me trying to make a three finger first position "A"
....'Zxactly! Even playing my Folklore it gets cramped trying to get All my fat fingers stuffed together and then try and make each note play cleanly!
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-14 9:30 PM (#226577 - in reply to #226559)
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then try a clean 5th fret A7 (add most anything)...Oy!!

EDIT: "clean 5th fret Am" To: "A7"

5xxxxx
xxx6xx
x7xxxx
xxxx8x
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Old Tele man
Posted 2006-12-14 9:49 PM (#226578 - in reply to #226559)
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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Dis
...ah, the "famous" DIS-CHORD!
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pzavislak
Posted 2006-12-14 9:51 PM (#226579 - in reply to #226559)
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I can't make any A-shape with a barre. That's my least favorite chord, and there's a lot of them... :(
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BruDeV
Posted 2006-12-14 9:56 PM (#226580 - in reply to #226559)
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Minor-Major 9th. x,7,5,8,7,7
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gh1
Posted 2006-12-14 10:01 PM (#226581 - in reply to #226559)
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For you folks with the three finger A chord problem -- assuming you are trying to i,m,a on strings 4,3,2 -- try m,i,a instead. May help

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gh1
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ignimbyte
Posted 2006-12-14 10:03 PM (#226582 - in reply to #226559)
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Mainly I have trouble with Eb, B and Bb. I can't even do barre chords where the ring finger press strings 2-4 simultaneously.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-14 10:03 PM (#226583 - in reply to #226559)
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I have to advocate some wisdom here, however reluctantly, imparted to me by my friend, Schroeder:

"If three strings make a chord, Why do you strum six?

...the implication of this philosophy leads to jazz
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-14 10:07 PM (#226584 - in reply to #226559)
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Originally posted by gh1:
For you folks with the three finger A chord problem -- assuming you are trying to i,m,a on strings 4,3,2 -- try m,i,a instead. May help

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gh1
Try as I might, I can only "barre" an 'A'
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-12-14 10:28 PM (#226585 - in reply to #226559)
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Three fingers for an A chord?
Try
00xxx0
xx111x

or
00xxx0
xx222x

or
00xxx0
xx3330

Whichever you can bend easiest. Major bonus!..it leaving many fingers free for flailing a other strings.
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45flint
Posted 2006-12-14 10:31 PM (#226586 - in reply to #226559)
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The chord is piano's gift to guitar E flat. I know I can capo one and transpose but usual when I am playing praise band easier to just bar it up high and suffer through.
Steve
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-14 10:33 PM (#226587 - in reply to #226559)
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that's wud I'm saying, Greg....
I can do all those.... bend all but the last ;)
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TRboy
Posted 2006-12-14 10:55 PM (#226588 - in reply to #226559)
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I just cheat and modify the chord.... ;)

ooxoxo
xx2x3x
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-14 11:15 PM (#226589 - in reply to #226559)
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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
that's wud I'm saying, Greg....
I can do all those.... bend all but the last ;)
Whoops. That should read "Phil" not "Greg" ... My apologies Mike.
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luthier444
Posted 2006-12-15 7:16 PM (#226590 - in reply to #226559)
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I might be way off base but it works for me. play all first postion chords without the index finger.. Only use middle ring and pinky unless you need it. . The nut is basically your index finger so playing an A-maj is easier as well as B-maj if you get use to it.. More room cause those fingers aint so fat. Heres the only pic I could find with the old index in the air???

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schroeder
Posted 2006-12-15 7:22 PM (#226591 - in reply to #226559)
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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I have to advocate some wisdom here, however reluctantly, imparted to me by my friend, Schroeder:

"If three strings make a chord, Why do you strum six?

...the implication of this philosophy leads to jazz
Lawksamercy momma, he was listening. :eek:
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Joyful Noise
Posted 2006-12-15 7:31 PM (#226592 - in reply to #226559)
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Originally posted by luthier444:
I might be way off base but it works for me. play all first postion chords without the index finger.. Only use middle ring and pinky unless you need it. . The nut is basically your index finger so playing an A-maj is easier as well as B-maj if you get use to it.. More room cause those fingers aint so fat. Heres the only pic I could find with the old index in the air???
That's good advice, its the only way I can go from A5 to Amaj. Otherwise, its a one finger A for me, which, I guess, really is poor technique.
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luthier444
Posted 2006-12-15 10:13 PM (#226593 - in reply to #226559)
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Its only bad technique if you need the open E.. I need my E MAN!!!!!!! But on electric of cource its a whole nother ball game..
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-12-15 10:16 PM (#226594 - in reply to #226559)
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E-flat
Definate buzz kill.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-12-15 10:40 PM (#226595 - in reply to #226559)
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B m sus4 flat5

xxxxxo
xxxxxx
xoxxxx
xxoxox
xxxoxx

Brian, try playing a g7 like this and see if you like it better...
xxxoox
xoxxxx
oxoxxo
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BruDeV
Posted 2006-12-15 11:32 PM (#226596 - in reply to #226559)
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Bm sus4 b5 = Bdim add4 or maybe Bdim add11
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MWoody
Posted 2006-12-15 11:39 PM (#226597 - in reply to #226559)
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Now you realize that those of us that play Praise/Worship gigs have a preference for Gsus, right?

M(I'll be in my room)Woody
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BruDeV
Posted 2006-12-15 11:46 PM (#226598 - in reply to #226559)
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I know more about how to build chords then play them.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2006-12-16 6:31 AM (#226599 - in reply to #226559)
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My least favorite chord???? The one I just messed up on..... :D

Roger
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First Alternate
Posted 2006-12-16 6:39 AM (#226600 - in reply to #226559)
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I like 'em all.
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Steve
Posted 2006-12-16 10:47 AM (#226601 - in reply to #226559)
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C#/Dflat...or most anything in that key (except when I have to play the entire arrangment of classical gas, where the trumpets come in..)
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Slartibartfast
Posted 2006-12-16 2:26 PM (#226602 - in reply to #226559)
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I didn't know Spock played six-string? :cool:
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-12-16 4:55 PM (#226603 - in reply to #226559)
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Originally posted by Old Applause Owner:
[QB] My least favorite chord???? The one I just messed up on..... :D

I will eventually get Bm without looking!
Favorites: E, Em, E7. I can really ring them out.
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Old Tele man
Posted 2006-12-16 5:03 PM (#226604 - in reply to #226559)
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...hint: Bm7 (at the nut) looks suspiciously "just" like middle 4-string E11, ie:

E|---- x
Bo---- R
G|-o-- 7
Do---- m3
A|-o-- R
E|-@-- 5 (optional, contra-bass note)

...just two fingers and two open strings!
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