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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Okay... seems like a few of us already play this and a few more want to take a run at it.
First, to get a common point of refference, here is a link to the guy with the funny eye playing it. Note his hand position on the fretboard. Colin Hay
Second... here is a link to the Chordie page I'm lookin' at. Cheat Sheet
To the guys who already play this, do you play the verse up in the middle of the neck like the video shows or do you use a form of cowboy chords?? |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13988
Location: Upper Left USA | That was one of the best cameo music spots in the last 10 years!
MHO - If you are playing solo acoustic go for the power chords up the middle, and in your key. If you are part of an ensamble pick out the tasty parts.
I was so hoping that AJ was going to do "Down Under" at the NW Jam. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13988
Location: Upper Left USA | A similar walk down in E with open strings would be:
EADGBe
079900
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 194
Location: Las Vegas, NV | I love that clip. I just learned cowboy chords. I'd like to learn the power chords, though, as played on the clip.
Is it just me, or was I the only one that didn't realize back in the 80's that Colin Hay actually had a decent voice? |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5330
Location: Cicero, NY | Yeah, great clip. And, if you like that tune, which I do, check out his cd Man At Work. Really great cd.
I've always played it using the cowboy chords but I'm going to play it up the neck and see how I like it. Never realized he did that. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | he's quite good |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | I just saw him in concert a few months back. Not only did he sing and play great, he could easily be a comedian. I have since become a big fan of his solo work. |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by MWoody:
If you are playing solo acoustic go for the power chords up the middle, and in your key. If you are part of an ensamble pick out the tasty parts.
I agree, I play it exactly how the tab is writtin on the "chordie" page. I don't think it's exactly right, but I think it sounds pretty good. |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268
Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | This LINK shows his chord work.
I just determined that I need my pinkie for the barres, small hands . |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 1225
Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
This LINK shows his chord work.
I just determined that I need my pinkie for the barres, small hands . Is it me, or is he playing it in "drop d"? |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Sounds dropped to me |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Maybe... but the Bm and the A look kinda normal. |
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Joined: January 2007 Posts: 430
Location: WNC-God's Country | You can always play "Hold On Loosely" by 38 Special and sing Colin's lyrics.. |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | The Bm is being played with an open high E, not barred...
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Joined: September 2004 Posts: 777
Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Is that what power chords are???? I am so excited to learn I have been messing with them for a few weeks on a new song I have been working on. :D Kept hearing the term, and had no clue. :confused: |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389
Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | To me power chords, are simply the lower (bassier) three notes of a bar chord. Like the Ramones. But back to Overkill ... I'm interested in it too. Has anyone worked out the strum? |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 194
Location: Las Vegas, NV | I thought power chords are just a note and its fifth (and sometimes an octave of the first note). I'm not versed on music theory, but this was my understanding. Mostly used for electric guitar, as full chords often produced bad-sounding (discordant?, trashy?) distortion, while a power chord's distortion is often more 'musical.' |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6994
Location: Jet City | I always called power chords "no 3rd" chords.
Starting off playing thrash metal and hardcore bands no 3rd chords were all I did. We were playing too fast to try to try to figure out if the chord was supposed to be minor or major. |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750
Location: Scotland | Our version is in Esus2. Standard tuning with a Shubb partial capo at fret 2, covering strings 3, 4 & 5. Similar to Drop-d, DADGAD and double Drop-D but up a tone. There's a 7sus4 in there, and it's really essential, use a substitution and it doesn't work |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | This is coming along well.
Except that the way it is written on that Chordie page, a 4 fret stretch is a little beyond what my hobbit hands can do.
If you're having the same problem, try this...
X577XX
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268
Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Slipkid:
hobbit hands D'ya call? Over here... |
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Joined: March 2007 Posts: 841
Location: CA | That's one of the best cameos EVER.
I'm not sure what the technical definition of a power chord is. But what Pete Townshend used to do to those poor doomed SGs — now THOSE were power chords. |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 3410
Location: GA USA | bcoombs is right. A power chord is a diad instead of a triad like most common chords. It's usually just the 1 and the 5 tones, so it's also called a "5" chord (as in A5). It's missing the part of the chord that determines whether the chord is major or minor, so it works with both.
See... I've been paying attention to my workshop live lessons.
Slipkid's post had this chord for example:
x577xx
That's a D, A and D. If it had an F it would be a D minor. If it had an F# it would be a D major. It's missing the 3rd. So it's both major and minor. |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389
Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Thanks Cap'n
Power Chord = missing part of the chord that determines whether the chord is a major or minor. |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 3410
Location: GA USA | Here's another cheat: Drop D power chords
A regular G power chord is played 355xxx
If you drop the top string to D, it's 555xxx
It's the same G5 chord, you just compensated for the tuning change by moving up 2 frets on the top string. Tricky thing is, you now have to think 2 frets up (G = 5th fret).
You can play the C major xx555x
And your D major xx777x
Now all your chords are one finger chords. I don't play them this way, but the teenagers at church do, so they can jump and fly all around while playing. |
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Joined: September 2008 Posts: 23
Location: new jersey | am i a sap for admitting i like men at work? |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | No, you're not a sap for admitting you like men at work. |
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Joined: September 2008 Posts: 23
Location: new jersey | thanx waskel e. wabbit.
as for the tune... power chords = black and white. the real chords are high def. each has an audience. you can get by with power chords i suppose. i like the real mccoy however. |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | I haven't been able to get this song out of my head since this thread started, so tonight I started playing it. Not too hard with the "cheat sheet" chords, and it almost sounds real. |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 288
Location: New Hampshire, USA | Love this song, but I like "It's a Mistake" even better.
Nothing wrong with some vintage Men At Work... |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 3736
Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Try this - Double Drop D chords
I haven't tried it myself yet, but here\'s someone that has. (Not the most talented guitarist, (or clearest recording) but you'll see if they're the chords you're looking for.
Maybe one for Richard to work on for the Oktoberfest? |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2985
Location: Sydney, Australia | No time for me to learn something else. I got stuck on "Throw your arms around me". There are so many different versions that have been done I hear something in my head that I just can't quite articulate with my fingers and voice. I blame you Muzz |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 3736
Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Hey Brad! How is the song going? Got it yet? Need some inspiration?
What about a chubby bald guy doing a great rendition of it.
And he's definitely playing it in dropped D... or in this case, dropped C#. (He's detuned a half step.) |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Howdy mate!
Overkill is coming along just fine. I just need to play it fifty times to get it memorized.
That guy does it pretty well. |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 3736
Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by The Artist (FKA Richard):I got stuck on "Throw your arms around me"...
... I blame you Muzz But I don't play that one?? :confused:
I thought you were gonna do Milky Way?
7 sleeps??? :cool: |
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