Viper Prototype
moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-06-12 5:16 PM (#221204)
Subject: Viper Prototype


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I'm assuming that Miles and Sam haven't seen this to add to their collections. Does anybody have any knowledge as to whether this might actually be a prototype Viper? The controls on it look different than what's on a current Viper.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=884005208
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2002-06-12 5:44 PM (#221205 - in reply to #221204)
Subject: Re: Viper Prototype


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Interesting indeed, because there was only one made and I have it. I have verified ownership of mine through the two people it passed when it left the factory... so this is VERY interesting to me. And indeed.. there supposedly was only one made, so I don't know what the one on eBay is.


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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-06-12 6:32 PM (#221206 - in reply to #221204)
Subject: Re: Viper Prototype


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Miles, yours is a nylon string and the one on eBay is a steel string. What is the fingerboard on yours, walnut or rosewood?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2002-06-12 7:00 PM (#221207 - in reply to #221204)
Subject: Re: Viper Prototype


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Ahhhh... now I see... good call.. I was a little nervous there... I'm not sure what the neck on mine is.. I will have to go look.
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alpep
Posted 2002-06-12 7:23 PM (#221208 - in reply to #221204)
Subject: Re: Viper Prototype


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miles
wood?
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Beal
Posted 2002-06-12 8:43 PM (#221209 - in reply to #221204)
Subject: Re: Viper Prototype



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Miles, nice nylon

As far as the proto of the steel redo wiper, The first proto was not made by Ovation. If you look real closely at the peghead shape you can tell this. Also the preamp is different from the production guitars. As I recall the type looked a little prototypish.

I suppose you all will want to know the USA factory it was made at? Or can you guess?

as far as to the one on ebay being the first one, I can't tell, I'd have to hold it to tell.

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alpep
Posted 2002-06-12 9:15 PM (#221210 - in reply to #221204)
Subject: Re: Viper Prototype


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would that be Hamer?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2002-06-12 10:36 PM (#221211 - in reply to #221204)
Subject: Re: Viper Prototype


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I understood mine (the nylon string one) was actually not made in the USA, but at the Korea plant. It was allegedly the "hey, sure... we can do this" model... then they didn't make any in that top. The reason I wanted it, was it matches my natural 6 and 12 string models and really rounds out (excuse the pun) the options for sounds in the studio.
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Beal
Posted 2002-06-13 8:31 AM (#221212 - in reply to #221204)
Subject: Re: Viper Prototype



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Al,

How did you guess right off??

Give that man a free Phi Zappa Crappa T-Shirt
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alpep
Posted 2002-06-13 9:05 AM (#221213 - in reply to #221204)
Subject: Re: Viper Prototype


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cwk2
It just all made sense. I think Hamer had the duotone first and the guitars are similar. What many people don't realize is that that body of the viper is wood. You also once mentioned that Jol had some input into the preamp so I put it all together.
Personally I like the looks of the viper over the 3 hole duotone and the current productio F hole duotone. The mutant I put together has the best of both worlds for me.

BTW I had the Phi Zappa Crappa poster on the back of my bedroom wall and I bet if I go over to my mom's basement It is still there unless she threw it out.
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Beal
Posted 2002-06-14 8:15 PM (#221214 - in reply to #221204)
Subject: Re: Viper Prototype



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The duo-tone and this viper were developed at the same time. The preamp was by EMG. The thing that will tell if this is the Hamer proto is a sharper peghead angle, 12 or 14 degrees whereas the Ovation is the std 7 degrees.
I remember your mentioning the posted frrom the PF-22 post.
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