Buffing out pick marks
Norseman1
Posted 2002-07-11 12:28 PM (#220349)
Subject: Buffing out pick marks


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Any advice on what's the best method for buffing out excess pick marks off the face/rosette of my Legend? It has a few heavy marks that probably won't come out, but a lot of superficial ones that polishing alone will not remove.

Thanks for any input.

Norse(trying to treat my Legend sweet [cause I don't have an Elite, for as I bidder, I was beat, I was in the kitchen but couldn't handle the heat, as some rich little turd stole the Elite right out from under my feet, to match his wallet was a feat, in which I could not compete [The little cheat!].)man1
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Coyote
Posted 2002-07-11 5:36 PM (#220350 - in reply to #220349)
Subject: Re: Buffing out pick marks


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Until someone who knows a better way chimes in, I will give this a shot.

I am pretty sure that the finish is some type of "poly", meaning a plastic type of finish, since I do restorations of a lot of plastic and bakelite items, my suggestions are:

FIRST: do no damage! - if the scratch is through the finish I would not advise even using a polish on it - a polish or scratch remover might react with the wood - have a pro examine it if you want it restored.

For minor scratches "Novus #2" works well, and is about the easiest to obtain - try a hobby shop. Use a SOFT cloth - I use old diapers (the cotton kind!) or flannel to apply and buff, then follow with a coat of a polish that will not turn white when dry.

Hope this helps, and hope we hear from someone with experience specific to guitars. Heck - Fender gets $$ for adding scratches and dings to theirs, so just consider them "character"?

Jim...
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Standingovation
Posted 2002-07-11 6:15 PM (#220351 - in reply to #220349)
Subject: Re: Buffing out pick marks



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I have never tried this and would advise to do so on an old piece of s**t guitar first, NOT on your Ovation. BUT, it was suggested to me to use one of those CD Restoration kits. You know, the pad and polish that is supposed to buff the scratches out of your CDs (the scratches that got there by using the CD as a Beer coaster). Like I said, I never tried it but it could be worth a (careful) shot. Dave
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2002-07-11 7:04 PM (#220352 - in reply to #220349)
Subject: Re: Buffing out pick marks


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You need an automotive-type cutting polish such as T-Cut, but BE CAREFUL, these things actually do what they say on the tin & can cut right through the finish. Why get rid of the guitar's character? Maybe this is psycological but old pristine guitars rarely sound as good as old guitars with a few war-wounds.

[ July 11, 2002: Message edited by: Paul Templeman ]
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Coyote
Posted 2002-07-11 7:43 PM (#220353 - in reply to #220349)
Subject: Re: Buffing out pick marks


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I wonder what Willie Nelson used?
He would be a good candidate for an Adamas endorser?
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Bailey
Posted 2002-07-12 2:22 AM (#220354 - in reply to #220349)
Subject: Re: Buffing out pick marks


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Norseman1

Just read in the news that the Bill Monroe museum is trying to raise over $1 million to buy his mandolin from his son. That mandolin had the finish scraped off by Bill in the hope of improving the tone, and the Gibson logo was scratched off by Mr. Monroe in a dispute with the factory. A few pick scratches validate the age of your instrument. Instruments are built to play, especially the good ones. Play and enjoy, don't get hyper, time will take care of everything with quality instruments, they just get better.

Bailey

PS: There is a movement in vintage autos to value the ones with original finishes, even though they are cracked and checked, much higher that restorations.

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Paul Templeman
Posted 2002-07-12 5:44 AM (#220355 - in reply to #220349)
Subject: Re: Buffing out pick marks


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After Bill & Gibson kissed & made-up they re-inlaid the logo. That must be the same Monroe F5 that was rebuilt by Gibson after it was deliberately destroyed by a burglar at Monroes house about 15 or so years ago. Very strange, nothing was stolen, just a portrait of Monroe & I think 2 Lloyd Loar-era F5's smashed to matchwood. Gibson did an amazing job on the restoration.

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Norseman1
Posted 2002-07-12 8:02 AM (#220356 - in reply to #220349)
Subject: Re: Buffing out pick marks


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My Legend will wear it's scars from this day forth with pride!

Norse(best leave well enough alone)man1

p.s. Thanks for the replies!

[ July 12, 2002: Message edited by: Norseman1 ]
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Beal
Posted 2002-07-12 8:23 PM (#220357 - in reply to #220349)
Subject: Re: Buffing out pick marks



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If you really want to do it here's how

take 600 wet/dry paper with a block and sand it lightly, with water. smove it out and then buff it out. The casing to the rosette is lexan (I think). The finish is polyesther and can be fixed the same way and will take more abuse than the rosette.

Now I would say think long about this. Do the scratches really bother you that much? On some of my old Nationals I've faced the same thing and decided to just leave it. It's part of the history of the guitar.

There you have it Norse(that's my answer)man1
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-07-12 10:45 PM (#220358 - in reply to #220349)
Subject: Re: Buffing out pick marks


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There was a guy that I met a few years back working in the Hollywood Guitar Center named Richard Gibson. He had moved to Hollywood to try to break into studio work as a bass player. We ended up talking and he had left his wife and kids home and missed them. We were talking about our guitars and he told me about a D-28 that his father had given him in high school. Well, he could look at that guitar and all the dings and scratches told the story of his life and the lives of his kids. He loved all those dings and scratches. He had his head on straighter about his guitars than anybody I had met.
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