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Location: SoCal | I think I'm about to cry. After spending bucks to put a new neck on my Viper, putting a new neck and front pickup on it, just now, I stood up from the chair I was sitting in, stepped on the chord, and practically pulled the plug jack out of the guitar, tearing up the pickguard. How could I be so stupid!
Anybody have a spare they'd be will to sell, or suggestions? Aw man, I'm dying here. Damn.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | That is truly a drag Paul. Check with Miles...he is away but is checking his email.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Paul, There is always Budney too. |
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Location: NJ | Ouch!
This thing you've created is pretty much "custom" now, isn't it?
If by chance you can't procure an "original" replacement, you MIGHT want to consider checking out either a really good sign ship, display house, or a custom plastic shop to make you a "custom" replacement. They could use your busted up one as a "template" and cut a new one out of a different (or similar) material. A really good display/exhibit house might even have some smallish pieces of really NICE laminates that are on the market now. It may take a bit of phone/leg work and a bit of additional expense, but sounds like you've invested a bit of that in this "project" guitar already. |
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Location: SoCal | Wayne, Bill, Cliff, thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to follow up on all your ideas plus see what everybody else has to say. I just got that guitar back together after being apart for two months, and now it's down again after a week. Very frustrating.
The other thing I'm going to consider, since it is down, possibly putting in a Strat type plug. I gotta see if there's room under the pickguard. At the very least, I'll re-enforce that area under and around the plug. And of course, I'm stilling looking for one more humbucker for the bridge position.
What's really a pain with this, is that for 30 years, I've always played acoustic. This year, I picked up an electric for the first time and really enjoyed it. Now, once again, I've got no electric to play.
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Location: Scotland | Paul, WD products do replacement Viper pickguards from stock, cost about $30. Here's the link to their site.
http://www.pickguards.com/ovation.htm
PS I'm posting this from a cybercafe in Brooklyn, you guys have been busy!, it's gonna take days to go through all these posts when I get back to the UK |
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Location: NJ | That's a really cool site!!
For $30 ya' can't beat it!!!!
PaulT. (if you can read this), how long are you gonna be in NY??
Perhaps we can hook up Manhattan for a spot o' Guinness?
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Location: NJ | WD= Wemdy Davis or Wrong Dimensions?????
I'll never tell
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Location: Scotland | Cliff, sorry I missed you, I read your post midday Tuesday & left a message at your office. Flew home Tuesday night. We'll do it next time, I'm planning a return before the end of the year, I've developed a taste for Brooklyn Brewery IPA.
We had a great time in the US & I bought a really sweet early '50's Rickenbacker 8-string Lap-steel for a great price compared to what they fetch over here.
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Location: NJ | Paul;
Sorry I missed your call but I was tied up all afternoon doing the "dog & pony show" for a major client that we just stole from our competitor (LOVE when that happens!).
Big fan of IPA's myself, but I've never tried Brooklyn's. I'll have to make a point to. It's probably that sparkling East River water that makes it so good!
Haven't shopped the Manhattan guitar shops in a long time (probably about as long as I had been married), but there's certainly lots there to find. Enjoy the lap steel.
Maybe next time, mate! |
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Location: Scotland | I actually got the Lap-steel from The Silo's bass player, who's a friend of the guy we were staying with. I visited the guitar stores on 48th & found it a dismal experience, especially Sams Ass, salesmen with poor product knowledge & bad attitude. Just like like Denmark St in London except the vintage stuff was much nicer. Matt Umanovs on Bleecker was great though, & visiting Mandolin Brothers on Staten Island was an absolute joy, nice people & fantastic gear.
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Location: NJ | "....salesmen with poor product knowledge & bad attitude...."
Duh-huh!! This IS MANHATTAN we're talkin' 'bout!!
It's a pre-requisite in order to work there.
When I was a kid, Sam Ash in Manhattan was a GREAT place go. Then they got popular and started branching out in multiple suburban stores (and kinda like became the forerunner for GuitarCenters). I think they breed the salespeople in the basements. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Does this mean anything in that part of the country?
My beer is Rhinegolds the dry beer
Think of Rhinegolds whenever you buy beer
It's not bitter, not sweet
It's a dry flavored treat
Why don't you try some new Rhinegolds today
That song almost got a bunch of us soldiers kicked out of a house in Bridgeport, CT where we were attending classes at the Sikorsky Helicopter plant, and we sang it at the top of our voices as we consumed the product. The woman who owned the house, and I'm sure was overcharging Uncle Sam for our board, said we were a bunch of drunks, and hurting her social standing in the neighborhood. It was pretty good beer, and I think they had a Miss Rhinegold that made it even better for young soldiers.
Bailey :D
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Bailey, The other famous saying from that time period was "And a big E goes up on the Schaffer score board!" |
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Location: NJ | "..Schaeffer is the...
...one beer to have...
...when you're having more than one..."
Being the progeny of blue collar, working class New Jersey (My father was a freight handler for the Hemingway Transport Company and a member of Teamsters Local 560 - at one time the most corrupt local in the country), I was exposed to a plethora of indigeonous Northeast Brews.
Schaeffer was a big one. As was Rhinegold, Ballantine (which was actually an ale), Rolling Rock, Valley Forge, Iron City, Stoney's, and Stegmeier (which was absolute HORRID dreggs, but was CHEAP and when you've got eight teenagers together with only ONE of them 18 - legal age at the time - it offered the most "zing for the jing".
Perhaps in another post I'll discuss how to become a teenage wine connosieur and still get CHANGE from your two bucks!! |
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Location: NJ | My mom worked for a beer distributor and schaefer was their top brand. In fact one of my high school bands performed the schaefer jingle.
I alwasy liked rolling rock and still do. I hate how they have marketed it as a yuppie beer, It was always what we would term a light summertime beer.
My grandmother could not wait until october to get the ballantine bock beer which was from what I remember really awful stuff.
Steigmeier was owned by yeungling and their black and tan is real yuppie stuff as the world'd oldest microbrewery, I cannot get over the fact that they made crappy beer and in all honest I HATE their black and tan it is just garbage in my opinion.
Oh how I long for the days of true imported lowenbrau.......
wines? yagoo? madrrea madreia? boones farm strawberry Hill? mateus rose? cracklin' rose? MD 20/20 tiger rose bali Hai....and the list goes on for ever |
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"...would monsieur like to sniff the CAP?.....! |
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Location: Scotland | I made a point of drinking British-style ale from US micro-brewers while I was in New York, and apart from the fact that you guys serve it far too cold, I was generally very impressed. It's easier to find a decent pint of ale in NYC than it is over here, due to the way the major UK retailers are trying to kill craft brewing. Al's right, Black & Tan is an abomination, both Guinness & Ale should be drunk individually & unadulterated. Now, back to guitars...........
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Location: SoCal | Why do Brits drink warm beer?
Because they store it in Lucas refridgerators. |
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Location: NJ | I actually like a good, "hand pulled" black&tan (prefferably Bass & Guinness), but Al's definitely right....that Yeungling stuff is sheer crap......CRAP, I say!!!!
And by the way....Beer and Guitars DO go hand in hand.....although not at the same time.......unless of course, you're really, really, REALLY good with the pull-offs and hammer-ons! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | And then there was Narragansett, Hi Neighbor, Have a Gansett!
and Schmidts, and Carling Black Lable
If Paul has a bit of all mentioned here he won't feel so bad about the pickguard, which was made from engraving stock, the stuff desk name plates are made from, which is why it's so brittle.
Then again, he might feel worse............. |
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Location: NJ | That's pretty much the same stuff the truss rod covers are made outta'. yes?? |
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Location: NJ | wow 16 years old with my best friend nick in his 54 ford or 62 rambler ( i forget now) but we drank black label that night and got sick I never drank a beer before that gave me a headache well aside from schmidt's which was nicknamed the headache beer |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Cliff, same stuff,
pickguards were thicker.
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Wow, Iron City I think was a good Pittsburg beer, that gets close to my home in Ohio on Lake Erie where Carling's Black Label (Canadian) was a good beer, as was Strohs before it was acquisitioned. They took all those beers that had character and threw them in a blender and had marketing piss on them in the hopes of miraculous Change to Coors (as Coors was thrown into the same blender in the hope of becoming Miller Lite). Thank God's brewers for Samual Adam's Boston Ale and beer, and surprisingly, Michelob's Black and Tan (cheap and good but make sure it's fresh cause a lot of people don't know about it), Pete's Wicked, and a multitude of small breweries that still believe beer should have some flavor.
Paul
In the 70's I worked with a guy who lived in Del Mar CA. Because of it's racetrack, it was a hangout of many celebreties, including J Edgar Hoover and Hollywood's finest. They had a bar there called The Pub, that had Watney's on tap, and Guinness, and any other British, Irish beer you could think of, and it had darts etc. all in all it was pretty authentic I think. We hung around there and it spoiled me against American beer, although it was served cold, but remember, most of the American west is searing desert, hot beer doesn't have the appeal that it might in a colder clime.
But back to the music, does anyone here know the words to that British drinking song that became the Star Spangled Banner, something Anacreon, we can do a verse of that and swing into the Anthem and everyone will go home with a good feeling about camaraderie and shared experience.
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Here ya go Bailey-
http://www.contemplator.com/america/anacreon.html
Put another notch in the Pro- Black & Tan category :p |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Rich
WOW, that was great, it even played the melody as I read the words.
This has to be the best board on the net!!
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Location: SoCal | As a last note on my pickguard situation, I'm waiting for an OEM pickguard from Ovation which should be here in the next couple of days.
Somebody was kind enough to send me a replacement pickguard, but after playing with it, I realized that the controls were placed differently on it and the only way to make it work would have been to route out the body. However I am still grateful to that person for their help.
Anyway, I should be up and running again, annoying the hell out of my neighbors with bad loud music, in the next couple of days.
Lesson: first, use a cable with a 90 degree plug and always tuck the cord up under where the strap buttons to the body. Second, don't do dumb stuff like step on your own cable. If you're gonna do that, step on the bass player's cable. |
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