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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Guess which brand I recommended. :rolleyes:
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Location: NJ | eh! . . y'made me "LOOK", Patch!!
Everytime I venture onto that Board, I feel like a Jew in the Vatican . . . |
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Location: Vernon CT | Just thru in my 2 cents!!!! :D |
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| Originally posted by cliff:
Everytime I venture onto that Board, I feel like a Jew in the Vatican . . . BEST LINE OF THE YEAR |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by cliff:
Everytime I venture onto that Board, I feel like a Jew in the Vatican . . . [/QB] Oiy Vay :rolleyes: |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Here's a quote from the thread.
Patch, Really? Why do 99% of live stage guitarists that are touring NOT use them? (Ovations) Seriously, other than DiMeola, Reed, and Glenn Campbell, I've never seen a serious guitarist play one live. Am I in the dark on this one? I'm happy to be wrong, but other than the amateurs in the local venues, I don't see them played live.
It really cranks my chain that only Ovation owners have to justify their preference in instruments. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | A Jew from Jersey? Naaaawww!  |
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Location: south east Michigan | At least we don't have drdavidhartman to kick around anymore. |
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Location: SoCal | I am sooooo tempted to post that I've never played or heard an Ovation but I know they're crap.... |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Originally posted by cliff:
eh! . . y'made me "LOOK", Patch!!
Everytime I venture onto that Board, I feel like a Jew in the Vatican . . . Happy New Year! |
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Location: closely held secret | Patch, just mention Ray Davies and Dave Gilmour for starters... |
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Location: NJ | 'cept for one song, Gilmour uses either Taylor/Gibson . . . |
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Location: NJ | Just go back and rescind your initial suggestion.
Apologize, and tell them that you mistakenly assumed that the intial request pertained to someone who would be
playing live ABOVE the fifth fret.
TaylorWankers . . . |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Everyone here knows as well as I do that it has less to do with the quality of an instrument when it comes to professional use than it does with marketing and sponsorship. The only pros who use Ovations are the ones who actually prefer them onstage better than the other options, as opposed to playing them because their endorsement deal says so.
Of course, if I say that over there, I'd probably be banned for trolling. :rolleyes: |
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Location: Jet City | I haven't clicked on the thread so I don't know what's been suggested.
I sure hope someone suggested a Taylor. Those are really great guitars. |
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Location: Jet City | OK, I went in there. I posted my opinion.
I didn't suggest an Ovation or Adamas though. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Originally posted by Damon67:
OK, I went in there. I posted my opinion. That's what the thread author asked for. :cool: |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Just a silly question . . . what difference does it make what they think or do on the other forum? We're here for our enjoyment, not theirs. They're over there for their enjoyment, not ours. And a silly suggestion . . . if they disagree with our responses and suggestions, and we're offended when they do so, why offer them? |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | There are quite a few Ovation players over there Professor. And I figure I have as much to say about my acoustic guitar of choice as anyone else over there. Besides, the social worker in me can't seem to stay out of conversations like that one. It's the classic underdog scenario. ;) |
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Location: Jet City | I didn't notice the second page at first and didn't see the big rip on Ovations.
I just posted another comment now.
Oh and Brad, I do it for the sheer hell of it. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I tried to give him a pretty straight answer. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Understood, Patch. You young guys can take up the cause. At my age, I need to save my energy for the battles that mean something to me personally. |
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Location: NJ | TaylorWankers . . . |
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
I tried to give him a pretty straight answer. Nice, I suggested a cooltube Tak, then saw all the O bashing and started to retaliate for the fun of it.
Funny, there were several guitar brands mentioned, but the mention of Ovation was the only that created hostility. Nobody said "Well nobody plays Yamaha guitars professionally"
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | AGF is just one of the many misrepresented sites on the web. They can swear on a stack of bibles that they are "for those who love acoustic guitars, and is not related to or affiliated with any manufacturer" but the big bold statement on their homepage "Formerly the Taylor Guitar Forum - Welcome to the Acoustic Guitar Forum!" sais it all.
This is not a unique syndrome. Much like V-Twin Forums would elude to being about all V-Twin model motorcycles (BMW, Ducati, Honda, Victory, Moto Guzzi, Harley etc..) it in fact.. is "a website dedicated to all things Harley Davidson" with the "and V-Twin" in there just so they can talk about Harley clones too.
I have thought many times about posting over there, but to what end. In general a square wooden box with strings on it, it going to sound like a square wooden box with strings on it. Occasionally someone comes up with just the right design of the square wooden box that sounds pretty good, but it's usually pretty expensive and very delicate. On an even more rare occasion one will come along that not only sounds like a musical instrument, but enables the player to use all of the frets up the fretboard with equal tone and playability. They are usually VERY expensive and even more rare.
The original stringed instruments (ones when they first started using fretboards at least) had ROUND BACKS!!! There was a reason. This was the late 1500's and Early 1600's.
Ovation, in good'ol Yankee Fashion applied modern technology to proven tradition. Square wood boxes with strings are just a cheap knock-offs of an idea that started around 3000 B.C. !!! and even they had a round back!!
Here's a link to some 1500\'s Round Backs
The modern Classical Guitar happened around the 1800\'s it seems.
Thankfully a resourceful man in CT named Charlie found a way to bring those early traditions into the modern age. It's too bad some just still don't get it, but at least they have the AGF to console each other. |
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Location: Tennessee | I think the thread is pretty reasonable overall. There are bashers everywhere. Taylor over here is wailed on pretty heavily, and a casual observer really wouldn't know when we were being facetious, serious, or blasphemous.
My thoughts:
+1 on the Cole Clark. The Fat Lady II is a dream plugged in.
+1 on the Takamine. Even without the Cool Tube.
+1 on Ovations. My personal preferences are the 2007BCS, the 2000, and the JL3. And the DS768 for the deeper darker stuff.
For the Jumbo sound, my Lakewood plays great through the Shen60. Not so sure how it would be in an environment with lots of sound pressure but in a small space it get the job done and then some.
So it depends on what I want to sound like. All of the guitars sounds different acoustically, and they all sound different plugged in. I love them all. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | It's so obvious that it's a waste of time to discuss it. Preston Reed plugged Yamaha at a concert I went to, because Yamaha gave him about 7 guitars to use on his tour. He didn't mention the one that he uses most, his Adamas, probably because Yamaha wouldn't like it very much. It was a bit hard to hide the fact that he used the Adamas on probably half his songs |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | David Bergstrom is one of the head guys ar Yamawho now. He's the one I sent after Preston when Dave worked for Kaman. Or maybe it was him coming to me and saying "you gotta see this guy playing at the Washburn booth" I forget...... |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV | I had to put my 2 cents in about Eugenius' comments. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | So far as bashing "O"s goes, this thread is pretty mild compared to some in the the past.
I really didn't see much to ruffle the feathers. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I always found Taylors to be beautiful guitars, without a personality. They are gorgeous, sound great, at least the ones I've played, but they lack something, ovations, adamas, taks, collins, even seagulls, and some others have. It's the oddest thing. |
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