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Location: Houston, TX | How about it? Meet in Conn, tour the factory, have some guest speakers, and many, many jam sessions. Could be done over a long weekend, Fri-Sun. |
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Location: SoCal | Sounds good. Who's gonna finance my trip from California? |
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Location: NJ | Gizz all you need to do is call the key and I think all 400+ will be ready |
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Location: NJ | Maybe we could get some Corporate Sponsorship from Ovation?
Now THAT would be a great marketing piece!
A full page ad comprised of a photo of the front of the plant with several hundred OFC members standing in front of it, and list some demographics: regional breakdown, total number of guitars owned, average number of years an Ovation owner, etc. On the facing page, another full page ad for the Q.
....hey!.....I'm just the "concept man"..... |
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Location: NJ | cliff I believe the industry term is marketing puke |
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Location: NJ | I am not!!! |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Have any of you considered the impact of 400 plus weird guitar players arriving might have on the foreign guest illegal alien airport security and police force that operate in that part of the country. Have you thought about the airport guard confronting you with your American made guitar at the airport, "Meester, thees is not an approved eenstrument, don't you know about NAFTA, pleese step into the search area you have violated NAFTA, MY fren, you fool, you ask for my badge numbre, WE DON'T NEED NO STEENKING BADGES, plees politely drop yoor pants, and weel see if this eenstrument is designed for American orifices. You are a threat to American security, prepare to learn what hoppens to a fool who tries to get on a plane and eesn't a hijacker or suicide bomber. You do not have a note from Osama, Rafeal, haul these perps of to the dungeon, and give them two hours of, hee hee hee, electroshock (I read where our INS let a Cuban in who , it turns out, took great pleasure in administering electroshock to dissidents in Cuba under Castro), then deliver them to Congress for questioning. Back to work, the Methodists Girls Choir just arrived. They thought they were going to Philadelphia.
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Location: Baton Rouge, LA | Hey, I'm a consultant with meetings experience and expertise.
My going rate: $200 per hour and, in the case of the OFC Convention as proposed, a vintage Glen Campbell shiny-bowl balladeer and a vintage Ovation shiny-bowl classic guitar.
Quite reasonable, I should say.
Y'all know how to get a hold of me!
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | "... he said, you look like a fine upstanding young man, I think you'll do-
-so I took off my hat and said imagine that, huh, me working for you oh whoa ooh whoa oh.."
Any volunteers to chaperone this field trip?? :eek:
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Location: NJ | I am only allowed within the new hartford city limits during daylight hours....but Winsted is a different story.... |
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| OFC tour of the Ovation plant? WHERE DO I SIGN UP!!! My Elite and I will be there. Now if I can just get past the Jack and Jill went up the hill
song I just might learn to play this thing some day! :D
See ya,
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Maybe coordinate and have a good 'ol CD Release party for the Fan Club CD. We are hoping to have that completed by November and that's really only 3 months away.
Yes we will be contacting the folks who signed up with details shortly. |
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Location: Pennsylvania | Well, it's worth a try. How about everyone who's really interested, sign this, then we could e-mail Ovation telling them the number of fans that would like to gather, and our hopes for a convention. Why not see what happens? |
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Location: NJ | aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh
who's gonna finance my trip?????? cut me a break guys. Now you want Ovation to set up a welfare program too??????? I guess once you buy a guitar you can expect the company to pay your rent and feed your face. With that attitude I bet you never go anywhere or even have any fun. For a real stretch if you are actually a musician you can write the trip off as a business expense.
If an event were to take place I bet it would be a great time. I for one would not care about what it cost me to get there or to meet others that share a common interest.
May I suggest if travel is a real concern Moody and Gizz can organize a west coast gathering. I am sure you can find a burro that could make the trip to some central location.
gizz just cup your hand to your ear and listen for those 400 guitars playing La bamba. |
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Location: SoCal | Yeah Al, and your point is???
I for one wouldn't care about the cost. My wife and kids on the other hand wouldn't be thrilled about me spending the money. Just a minor detail. |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by moodypi:
[QB]Yeah Al, and your point is???
it is a simple one. Don't go don't belly ache. |
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Location: SoCal | I'm not going. And I'm not bellyaching (well, maybe just feeling poor). |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Damn, this New Mexico stagecoach schedule is hard to read, the thing looks like it was printed 150 years ago. Let's see, 1 day to El Paso (stay overnight, visit beautiful Juarez, Mejico boys town), stage to San Antonio, 10 days (not Gauranteed during Comanche moon), San Antonio to Galveston, 7 days, (featuring musical interpretations by G. Campbell on board when available), cattle ship to New York harbor, 30 days, (departure depending on Texas roundup schedule). Note: for entertainment while you wait, visit the English Pub in town when the cowboys arrive from the cattle drive and are served warm beer, you will see the bartender perform a "six gun" jig that you won't forget, you might, if he is a repeat offender, see the lariats come out, and unless he steals a fast horse, and leaves town, he will hang from a newfangled lamp post. (he will hang if he steals a horse, he deserves it for serving warm beer to cowboys off the range.)
Any how, I think I can make it in 60 days if I don't get put in a Mexican jail, get scalped by Comanches on the staked plain, hung by cowboys for laughing at the wrong time, or forced to walk the plank on a cattle ship for mistaking the Captain's Mexican wife and daughter as Juarez girls like I met in boys town.
But I still prefer this to flying.
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Location: NJ | Hey moody
if I remember mannix got $300 a day plus expenses in the seventies. in 2002 you probably get double that so hell work one extra weekend and feel "po" no "mo" |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | New Hartford...(NorthWest CT) crowded?? I guess the squirrel and bear population has grown since I left in the 80's. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Well, I don't know what it is like today. Hartford is and always was a pretty busy city, but as I recall, the Factory is not near there. It's up northwest in New Hartford. I recall New Hartford or Barkhamstead to definatly be the sitcks.. Bloomfield was a small city also. Guess I should look at a map. I have no use for the entire state other than the guitars made there, but that's a personal thing. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Do you still have to take a Parkway to get there? If so, what is the toll for the burro that us western staters are supposed to arrive on. Actually, it will be three burros as we're bringing our instruments and our booze, maybe four as Gizz may need a stack of amps to get his gentle acoustic sound on La Boombox. In reality, it will probably be 50 burros cause none of us will share a burro. We'll have enough time on the trip to teach the burros the vocals and a few dance steps for La Bamba, so all Gizz will have to do is accompany the 50 burro orchestra. That should impress those Ovation factory workers and make them proud of what they have spawned.
This thing is taking off, I'll go out tomorrow and start rounding up the burros, they been bored since we shut down the silver mines in 1893 and ended prospecting.
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Location: NJ | Mule teams are another good cheap source of alternative transportation for our western members. |
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Location: NJ | Years ago, my (then) wife and my daughter had the the top repaired on my CB by Ovation as a birthday present and made two trips to the factory (one to drop it off, and one to pick it up). On one of the trips they were given a tour and they had a great time and were greatly impressed. My daughter still talks about it.
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Location: SoCal | On a serious note, my wife and I have talked about taking the kids to New England in the next couple of years, to see it in the fall. My wife knows that as long as I'm gonna be that close, there are two stops I have to make. One in New Hartford and one in Cooperstown.
So I'll get there eventually.
By the way Al, Rockford charged $200 per day plus expenses. I don't think that Mannix ever said what he charged (I suspect that he was busy getting beaten up for free most of the time!). |
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Location: NJ | You forget that Mannix didn't have to work all that hard as he had access to that state-of-the-art punchcard-driven COMPUTER (and Joseph Cappenella).
Not knowing your daughters' ages, if you're planning a fall New England trip, you MIGHT wanna consider Halloween in Salem, Mass. About 5 or 6 years ago, we took my daughter there when Halloween coincided with a weekend. Had a GREAT time! I highly reccommend the Hawthorne Hotel (it's right on Salem Common in the center of town). |
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Location: NJ | I stand corrected it was Rockford and just think he had to support his dad and that wonderful trailer on his meager salary and a firebird (or camaro) and a host of bimbos....seems like he did ok it was banacek (sp) that had the car the always broke down and was always broke.
I am pretty sure he upped it to 300 a day on the last season.
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Location: SoCal | Banacek was played by George Peppard and had major money with a guy to drive his older classic cars.
Harry O (David Jansen), in San Diego, always had his cars breaking down and had to take the bus.
I love all those shows but they are so far from reality. I have a wife, two kids, two dogs, a guitar habit, and a mortgage that I can't afford. Takes a lot to keep it all going. The only accurate thing about the shows is getting to go to bed with great looking females. Of course, I had to marry her first...
Now, back to Ovations....... |
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Location: Pensacola,FL | Ovationists click HERE ! :D |
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Location: Shelton, Washington, USA | What kind of file is finger.ra? what pgm will open it? |
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Location: NJ | RealAudio
You can get the player program from their website.
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Cliff- it played good on my setup, sounded fine.
Boys (cowboys always say boys when they have bad news)
The burro roundup failed badly, we may have to go to mules. I borrowed a lady burro and a horse trailer from a ranch nearby and decked her out in a straw hat with holes for her ears, she should look very pretty to a burro I thought. I took her out to the open range where I heard there were wild burros. I set her up in the trailer with my PA system and lit her up with an auto headlight, and she started hee-hawing through my PA in various tones and stamping her feet in what I assumed was the burro equivalent of Brittany and I figured I'd have my 50 burros in no time.
I went home for supper, and returned with 6 kegs of beer as I heard wild burros could be tamed with free beer. When I arrived the area around the horse trailer was so crowded that I couldn't get in, but it wasn't burros, it was about 4000 high school kids jumping up and down to the burro's braying, raving they called it. The sheriff pulled in behind me, lights flashing, apprehended me, my beer, my PA system and my friends horse trailer, and I am charged with 4000 counts of contributing to the delinquincy. My story of rounding up 51 burros to travel to the Ovation factory fell on deaf and raucously laughing ears.
What's worse, the lady burro now has an agent and is in 6 figure negotiations with 3 record labels.
Bailey (definitely headed for the last roundup)
Mules are better!
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Location: Pensacola,FL | Bailey
If you do go looking for mules, you may want to have this sign with you posted about 10 feet in the air "SIGN" , that way the kids won't confuse your roundup with a rock concert :D . Mention Bluegrass somewhere too, just for good measure. |
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Location: NJ | just don't forget the borax |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Thanks boys
As soon as I get my stuff back, I'll go after the mules. I heard that this fellow named "Dutch" Reagan was the one to see about mule teams, has anybody got any idea where I could reach him? Last I heard, he was haulin borax out of Death Valley. Dutch should have been a politician as everybody I talk to in Borax CA, or Owens valley say they'd vote for him in a minute for President.
Mules are bigger and carry more so Gizz can fit on 2 with all his gear, 20 mule team might be enough, but we'll have to give up the idea of them performing La Bamba or Orange Blossom Special as they have much more dignity than we do and have been known to launch fools into low orbit when insulted.
We'll get the Ovation sign and meet in Mission Viejo for the cross country trek. Because of the mules dignity, dress code is business, coat and tie required, and because we now have a formal invitation from the factory, there will be no profanity on the trail (or whisky drinkin nor tobacco chawin).
Boys, bring your Ovation instruments, I've thought of a name for our singing group as we cross the desert "Sons of the Frying Ears" and a theme song "Fumbling Jungleweeds". We'll really impress them when we show up at the factory.
I think were back on track.
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Location: Scotland | What about sharing your girlfriend? |
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Location: NJ | I may be wrong here, but "Francis" may be the achetypical "Ol' Prospector's Mule".
At least I HOPE I'm right, or else I've made yet another new enemy in Texas (two if Francis turns out to really be a girl). |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Was that "old" movie buffs, or "old movie" buffs? |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Gizz
I suddenly had visions of 400 Ovation players in red shoes, some dressed as scarecrows, some dressed as lions, Tin Men aplenty and the little people, dancing behind cwktwo's small dog down a yellow brick road towards a castle with an Ovation factory sign. All playing a vaguely familiar song. In the vision was a good and bad witch whose identities were vaguely familiar also, and an overworked board master hiding behind a large fake computer monitor.
I don't know where it came from, it just flashed into my mind in monochrome and faded into a color monitor.
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Location: NJ | I dunno I just got a vision of Gizz in a frilly dress tap dancing up a the steps of ovation singing on the good ship lollipop.....I need more sleep..... |
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Location: Scotland | Or possibly therapy, that's a very disturbing image. |
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Location: Houston, TX | I didn't realize there would be this kind of fallout when I started the thread. Forget the convention, you guys are scaring me. |
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Location: SoCal | If they're scaring you, just think of how their wives are affected by this! |
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Location: NJ | Frankly Gizz "I don't give a damn"
or is it..."of all the bulletin boards in the world you had to wind up in mine...." |
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Location: Dallas | Al, tactfully put - I have removed all my post and will stay out of your Bulletin Boards from now on, if you stay out of Dallas...... Nice knowing all of the rest of you fun loving musicians, but I can see some don't like their toes step'd on - so I'm gone .... it was fun while it lasted.
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Location: SoCal | Gizz:
Don't take Al so personally. He's just quoting movies at you. So get your tail back in here. |
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Location: NJ | Gizz
for a guy that knows obscure Francis the talking mule movies you sure have no knowledge of the classics
your assignement is to rent the following movies and watch them this weekend
Gone with the Wind
Casablanca
hint both lines I quoted come at the END of each movie.... |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Scott
What you are seeing here is an example of the top level planning that goes into many corporate projects in the U.S.A.. If some insight into what goes on every day in the boardrooms and executive suites of big business makes you nervous, you need to see the movie "The Gray Flannel Suit" and learn how to play with the big boys. Otherwise, there are those who will put you in the same category as Dustin Hoffman in the "Graduate", who was given the good advice that the future was in plastics, but ignored it and ended up driving up and down California freeways in an Italian sports car listening to Simon and Garfunkle and being seduced by good looking women. Ask yourself, do you want to end up like that?
I am sure nobody else here would want to end up like that.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by intermetroman:
I didn't realize there would be this kind of fallout when I started the thread. Forget the convention, you guys are scaring me.
Scaring you??? We already know that the folks in the factory read this... think how THEY feel at this point! We'll show up, 400 strong, and they'll have the doors locked and be hiding under the tables. We may hear John B. off in the distance..."No one here but us mice, go away." |
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Location: SoCal | Scott:
It's easy to tell that Bailey is trying to pull your leg. You can't read the last line of his message and think he's serious. Hell, everybody here wants to end up like Dustin Hoffman's character and bag Mrs. Robinson. It's just that our wives won't let us.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled guitar talk..... |
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Location: Houston, TX | Yeah Paul, I know you're right. It just hit me wrong at the time I guess. Kind of hypocritical for a guy who says "Jesus, it was a friggin joke" to turn around and miss the joke himself. My fault Bailey.
Has anyone noticed that the selection at pawn shops has really gone down the tubes. I once had a regular circuit I would cover so that I hit some decent shops at least every 2-3 months. Now there's nothing but junk everywhere I go. Is this just a local phenomenon, or has ebay killed the pawn shop special? |
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Location: Scotland | Ebay is the global yardsale, and I for one don't have a problem with that. Most of the pawnshop/junkshop operators I've come accross have been little more than criminals & if it puts some of those assholes out of business, so be it, said he, taking the ball of a different subject, and running with it!.........
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | A friend of mine coined the term 'pawn-tiquing' (at least that's where I heard that term first)when we would go make rounds at all of the local pawnshops- looking for good deals. I'm not sure that the selection of decent merchandise (guitars)has declined as a result of ebay, but that perhaps ebay has allowed these places to ask more for their stuff... Just a thought...
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Location: Boston MA | Frist I would love to go to the plant I live in Mass and would be there any time I must say that I realy like all the guitar talk but the humer is great Bailey you are a riot a was cracking up!! Would go down the yellow brick road on a mule just to get there to meet all you!! Brian I to like to hit the local pawn shops I live in Boston so ther are a lot I have seen a fall in good items and rise in price I got A brand new Elite 1868T on e-bay for 700 good deal I think
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Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana | And while you guys make your way to Ovation Headquarters for the OFC Convention, pick me up in Baton Rouge and I'll be leading in the strumming of a slow-tempo "Gentle on My Mind" in E-flat, using my 1617-4 Legend I bought recently from Alpep! (It's awesome, Al!). All you guys can put your capo on the first fret and do it in da key of D.
But watch out -- the last verse will be done in E, so the rest of you capoed guys will have to get in high gear and do the dreaded E-flat!
When we do our jams at Ovation, how are we going to get all 400-plus of us in tune??? |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | All you old movie buffs missed it, it was "The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit" not the "Gray Flannel Suit". Yesterday was our 45th wedding anniversary so I didn't log on, but I was expecting at least 5 corrections by tonight. I was sure Gizz was going to kick my butt and make me write on the blackboard 100 times (note that he is a teacher) the exact spanish translation of "Loiue, Louway,O,O,O" with tablature.
Tommy, what is this "in tune" and E flat requirement, us guys who didn't take lessons shouldn't have to do advanced guitar, and you can't bring any of those deadly Louisiana mosquitos with you to the convention.
I don't think Ebay killed the pawn shops, they never had many deals to begin with. Every time I pawned a good guitar, I redeemed it. For the last 10 years or so everybody is looking for that rare collectible or antique, and many have learned to recognize a brand name so the fleamarketpawnshopgaragesale is picked over like Scrooge's bedroom in Christmas's past. TV is more likely the culprit with shows like "Antiques" and every cheap publication that has been telling people how to get rich by buying Stradivarious violins from this hick farmer or trailer park person, never saying why they would ever have a Stradivarious, or in our case an "original" Glen Campbell Ovation when those people bought Sears Roebuck instruments. The real great thing that's happening in Ovations, is there are deals on Ebay that have terrific prices, but, as usual, I ain't got any money.
That's why it's cheap humor, that's all us people on a musician's salary can afford.
So, let's all hop a freight and meet at the factory before winter makes that form of travel uncomfortable.
"Go to Sleep you Weary Hobo" (Woody Guthrie)
Bailey
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Location: Pensacola,FL | Bailey
CONGRATS on 45 ! In todays world you two are an exception to the rule. As for the OFC convention
(next fall?) maybe in October before the snow starts falling in New England (them box cars can get a little drafty :D ). |
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Location: NJ | OGL1 Rick Hall suggested spring in his post. |
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Location: NJ | "...When we do our jams at Ovation, how are we going to get all 400-plus of us in tune???...."
The "lunch whistle" at the factory is A440. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | For whomever would like to organize this event, keep in mind that although Spring 2003 is a ways off in "real" time.. it's getting close in "planning" time. With most events you can figure a 25-30% turnout which now is a little over 100 people. In another 8 months that number will be closer to 250 people and possibly much more. Actually if we continue our current growth rate it will be closer to 350 people, if only 25% show up. Finding a hotel and convention facilities, catering etc.. can no longer be left up to the local Dominoes or Pizza Hut. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Miles
I'll be serious and second you on that. This thing is taking on a good possibility of working out. Now would be the time to start headcounts, rough plans, volunteers, etc. and probably your timeline is realistic. Fortunately you have the perfect setup to pull it off in your bulletin board.
Scott
It looks like your suggestion might pan out, the people on this board are a good bunch from what I've seen, and probably would be great fun to meet and jam with. Some, like myself, may not enjoy travelling so much, but we would sure enjoy hearing about it if the rest of you pull it off.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I will make a priority of putting up a sign-up sheet for the OFC Convention. I will make a survay for a preferred date part of the signup. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Maybe we could have an alternate site at Bailey's adobe? (with the new addition) Maybe then we'll get our long lost brother Russel to come. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | cwktwo
Glad you mentioned that, I'm concerned about our fellow ex New Mexican also. I've done a few searches on the NM papers to see if his name came up and no luck. I'm almost sure that I read an article about his Santa Fe business in the Arts section of our paper some time ago either before or as he was retiring, just a vague reccollection from the things he said in his postings. Russ, if I'm wrong, please log on and correct me.
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Location: NJ | Prior to my NM vaccaciones in July, I had sent Russ an email enquiring about his former studio in Santa Fe as I wanted it check it out, but never got a response. I suspect that he's just not "connected" in his travels. I hope he's okay.
btw Bailey, BEAUTIFUL state ya' got there!!
Didn't get to see as much as I'da liked to, but was able to take in Albequerque, the "Turquoise Trail", Santa Fe, and Bandolier all in one day on my way to Colorado. I hope to go back soon and stay in New Mexico. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | New Mex is great, isn't it? Russw's studio was just east of SFe about 20 minutes, towards Las Vegas (NM that is). My sister and mother live out there and he's supposed to stop by and see sis before he goes south for the winter. I'll send word he should report in, he's been seriously AWOL. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | cliff & cwktwo
Thank you, speaking for the NM state, for the nice comments, the people here are as nice as the features. I chose this place when I left California in 1979, so I'm living where I want to, not where I have to. One of the things that might or might not be obvious when you visit is that this was the last of the wild west. The Lincoln County war, Billy the Kid, the final Apache wars, all took place at the turn of the century. Butch Cassidy's wild bunch hung around the Silver City area for some years, and robbed a train in Catron County toward's the end of their career. One of the best books about the area was written by an English gentleman named Capt. William French (Recollections of a Western Ranchman) who invested in and operated a ranch north of Silver City from the 1880's to the turn of the century, and viewed the outlaws, Indians, and frontier characters with a wry and unbiased British humor. Recall that Britain was highly civilized at the time. Anyway, some traces of those days can still be found if you look hard enough.
Well, you pushed one of my buttons, to get back to Russ, I fear he is like some of us in that if something happened to him no one else would know to let us know. Does anybody know any other contact that could be politely queried?
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Location: SoCal | I'm assuming that emails have been sent to Russ's private email address. Has anybody tried to pick up a phone number where Russ lives? Or tried to locate family or tried to find out where he used to live in the states? I am a trained investeigator (when my wife if happy with me she says I' a world class p.i. When she's not she says I'm just a small time thug.. the thug part is true, but I hate being thought of as small time) and if everybody gives me what info they have, I might be able to generate some contact info. |
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Location: NJ | Yeah Paul we know $300 a day plus expenses..... |
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Location: SoCal | Actually, for this group, I was thinking pro bono. |
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Location: NJ | aw man! don't bring U2 into this!!! |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | He was talking about Cher |
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Location: SoCal | I was talking about free. |
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Location: Baton Rouge, LA | Hey guys and gals:
Let's see if we can get some Ovation endorsees to jam with us at Ovation headquarters, sorta like a "past, present, and future" of Ovation Guitars. Possible good advertising/marketing strategy for this company (as well as the Ovation Fan Club). I won't even think about going unless my man Glen Campbell commits to being part of the Ovation Festival and putting on a mini-concert.
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Paul
If you're serious, you might try a search of New Mexico news sources as Russ had some media recognition in New Mexico and might generate some coverage if he passed through the state on his travels. My recollection is that he had a wrought iron business in Santa Fe that appealed to the upscale homeowners because of the quality and artistic quality of his work even though he was basically a welder and not the typically wimpy artist indigent to City different and he sold his foundry for some reason that I can't remember and retired at a fairly early age. Russ, you're welcome to kick my ass if I'm wrong, just do it on the board so they will know where you're at.
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Location: SoCal | Bailey:
Email me off the board. I want to bounce something off you.
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | moodypi
I just emailed you through the icon on your post, if you didn't get it, let me know and I'll email you through the usual route.
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Location: SoCal | Bailey:
Never got your email. Please try again at moody.pi@cox.net.
I did however, just discover that I had some private messages on this web page. Facinating. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | moodypi
I just e-mailed you through my mail program.
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Tommy
"Gentle on My Mind" E flat and all. You know from everything I've seen about Glen Campbell, he might show up for something like this if he was asked. Somebody should ask him. That would probably entice 399 of us 400 to show up at the convention.
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Location: SoCal | Tommy
"Gentle on My Mind" E flat and all. You know from everything I've seen about Glen Campbell, he might show up for something like this if he was asked. Somebody should ask him. That would probably entice 399 of us 400 to show up at the convention.
Bailey
Guys:
I also wander thru Glen Campbell's website and I suspect that unless he was doing a concert in the area, he wouldn't show up for the OFC gathering. He does his gigs, plays some golf, and goes home. Sorry |
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Location: New York | Ok expenses aside the part about the burro was pretty damn funny.
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | If GC wont come, maybe his mother would come in his place. But would any of you let your mother show up at a gathering of fanatic guitar huggers who have lost touch with ordinary human relations in their pursuit of the 12 string Elite of heaven? They are apt to sack the factory and abscond with every historic relic.
(I was quoting my wife's reaction to my suggestion that I go to see GC's Mother)
cwktwo you need to rescue us, or maybe Russ in viejo Mejico has the answer.
The burros are saddled and waiting. |
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Location: NJ | Bailey
I run a guitar show twice a year. My mom LOVES it. She makes cookies and cakes and sells them (well what she dosen't give away) and has a blast. You have to rememeber she has been around musicians and guitars all my life. she has a great time and enjoys most of them. |
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Location: NJ | Was that HER passing around the tequila shooters?? |
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Location: NJ | and flashing |
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Location: NJ | "Nice Cookies!" |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Alpep
If it weren't for mothers, none of us would be here. |
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Location: NJ | Bailey
We have had some real "mothers" on this board too!!! |
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Location: Pensacola,FL | AL,
referring back to an earlier part of this thread,
when is it ACTUALLY "Spring" in New England? You have to remember that us folks from the "southern climates" don't know a lot about seasons :D |
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Location: NJ | "Spring" up here constitutes when the last huge, oil/soot covered, salt/sand encrusted, litter-riddled snowpile is reduced down to a small pile of dry grit that can be swept in to a nearby sewer grate........."Play Ball!!!"
[ August 21, 2002: Message edited by: cliff d. ] |
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Location: Baton Rouge, LA | Well, Glen Campbell is in concert Thursday night in Kinder, LA and Friday night in Harvey, LA (near New Orleans).
What's the likelihood I could have a private moment with the Arkansas balladeer and tell him about our club and this potential convention?
I am going to his concert Friday night near New Orleans. I just ordered my ticket.
I'm not a member of his fan club or anything, so how do I gain entry to his private room to say "Hi, I'm Tommy Darensbourg, and I'm here for the Ovation Fan Club!!!!!"
"It's knowing that your door is always open and your path is free to walk..." (of course, in the key of E-flat!) |
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Location: Boston MA | I have lived in NE all my life and spring to me is when you get to come out of your cave for some light hopefuly in April. When is the trip I have room for one, near Logan air port, about 3 hours away from Hartford just let me know......
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