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Location: Central Texas | Anyone know what kind of pickups these are on this Bread winner? They don't look like any I've seen on the other models I've looked at, but I'm no expert. Also, it looks like the saddles are nylon. Are these original?
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Location: Scotland | Yep, pickups are the early large single-coil "Torroidal" type. Saddles were originaly nylon & changed to brass later. The Tan with tortie pickguard isn't too common & is a cool finish. What looks to be an original early Blue BWinner has just been listed on ebay, it'll be interesting to see what that one fetches |
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Location: Central Texas | Wow, I love this resource. Thanks Paul. What are the pros and cons of the nylon saddles over brass? These pups as compared to the later versions like what I have?
BTW, where's the Blue Bwinner listed? I couldn't find it. |
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Location: SoCal | Mark, the blue breadwinner is probably on Great Britan's ebay board. You couldn't tell from Paul T.'s accent that he's a Brit?
Whoops, just found it. Here's the link
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Location: Central Texas | Ooooh, dats purdee. (Can you tell by my accent that I'm from Tejas?) :D |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | The word is "Que Linda" here in Nuevo Mejico, the blue is pretty but I like the other one better. One of these times I'm going to end up bidding and destroy a 45 year old marriage, you guys shouldn't put temptation out there.
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Location: Scotland | I say dear boy, are you mocking my plummy tones? Or in my native accent... how bonny lad, ah yee tekin' the piss like? In future I shall make an effort to type in a Southern drawl.
The Blue was on the US site but he hasn't actually put the word "Breadwinner" in the title. The fact that he's put "not Fender Gibson" in an attempt to get more hits shows he doesn't have a clue what he's got. If he'd written "Early Blue Breadwinner" Ebay's servers would crash with the traffic.
I think the later brass/gold saddles look nicer than the nylon. I have Breadwinners and Deacons with both types & any tonal difference between the two is not worth considering. The nylon saddles are very tough, none I've seen have shown signs of wear.
I have played an early BW with the large single coils & it sounded fine, but I haven't had one in a side by side comparison with a later humbucker version. I'd guess Sam or Miles could do that & let us know.
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Location: NJ | "Muy Linda" "Ay Bonita" but "Que Linda" has my Spanish deteriorated that much or is it a regional "thang" |
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Location: Pensacola,FL | The "repair" to the headstock/neck is interesting.
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Paul, to answer your question on the pick up comparison(early single coils vs. later humbuckers).I personally like the sound of the later humbuckers much better..In fact the single coils dont do anything for me.Asside from the collectibility of my early single coil blue bread,i dont play it much at all..Having said that i dont play muck electric guitar anyway.I mainly play acoustic....So, right now my collection is going thru a "what should i keep and what should i sell phase"...If i do decide to sell off a few pieces ,you guys will get to pick from some very cool rare guitars if you want.I have way too much stuff not being used and some needs to go... |
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Location: Houston, TX | Is that a hairline fracture or scars from a reattached limb? |
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Location: SoCal | Sam:
Think "Blonde Thunderhead" for Moody. |
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Location: Scotland | I could be interested in a P-deluxe, & a Thunderhead (but give Paul M first choice) & Sam, you really don't need all those slot-heads, so if you ever decide to thin those out give me first shot at a wide-neck. I mean a dang ol' wide-neck, y'all. Just trying out the accent thing, but I don't think it works.
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Location: NJ | Put me down for a twelve-string Deacon, ol' buddy ol' pal o' mine! |
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Location: puerto vallarta, mexico | orale alfredo-------si eets a regional theen. here we wood say ---- hijole! aquella pinche guitarra esta muy chingon. que no vato? prestame pa' comprarla ese, y te pago en domingo. |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Moody, i can do better than a blonde Thunderhead.How about a very rare Jerry Reed Thunderhead or a 1968 sunburst.Im considering those?? im not sure yet
Paul, i would hate to send that slotted back to England.Hell, you had a shot at buying it one time and you let it go..Now that we all know it belonged to Paul McCartney and wings once..This one is a keeper for life.I do have some other interesting items though.....e-mail me (samova@aol.com)
Cliff, the 12 string is too perfect,not a blemish on it.It also has gordious black streaks in the wood grain(Thanks Bill)..That one is a keeper also, but i have some other interesting deacs and breads i may part with.Also several banners ,signs posters and other ovation stuff(parts)....e-mail me
(Miles i finally found the Ovation string rack.I bet you thought i forgot about it.Im ready to ship it.What else was there?) |
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Location: Scotland | Don't rub it in Sam, I could've had that guitar for £800, if I hadn't been a penniless kid who'd just sold a kidney to afford his second Ovation. I'm not fussy, it doesn't have to be a wide-neck, any Slot-head you want to unload, I'm your man.
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Location: Central Texas | By all means, Sam, please post a list of your sell items. Because I'm such a nice guy, I'd go the extra mile to insure these babies have a new loving home. No need to thank me. I'm just philanthropic that way. :) |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Paul, these guitars dont speak British any more...They know speak southern Greek!! "OPA"
I would hate to confuse them at this point in their career.... :D |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Bummer about the sloppy repair. Wish I had a replacement neck... and speaking of which...
I don't get "neck repairs" Ok, maybe if this was done in the last few years, but in general isn't it cheaper to get a new neck refinished? Isn't that a better way to go? Granted a little more difficult on rare guitars, but not THAT hard to find a same neck on a beater, and just have to match the color. I really don't get repairs on Fender and Gibson and other seemingly common necks. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Alpep, Russ
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Location: SoCal | Sam:
Shoot me a pic, if you've got one of the Jerry Reed Thunderhead. I'd love to take a look at that.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Six-string natural Deacon for me!
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Location: Scotland | Somebody copped a bargain. The blue BW went for $315.
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Location: Houston, TX | I thought I remembered w2 saying the blue BW's were primarily props and not really good playing guitars. Am I thinking of something else?
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Location: Scotland | I think CWK2 said there were some really early pre-production BW's that were props for the Fartridge Pamily. The Blue era Breadwinners, apart from the pickups, plain neck plate & battery cover & position of the output jack, were pretty much the same as the later ones.
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Location: North Carolina, USA | If the serial number was not on the neck plate then where was it? Does anyone know the year when Ovation started putting the serial number on the neck plate? Would this information hold true for all Ovation solid bodies including the Magnum bass?
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Location: 6 String Ranch | The props were about 6 of red white and bleu. made in the middle of the b'weiner's life span. The blue breads were regular production and are the rarest color. The tan is next. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | As far as I know (and I have close to 100 solid bodies) ALL of the serial's were on the neck plates with the exception of the PF-22's which were on the edge of the headstock. I also don't recall where they were on the Ultra GP without looking. However, several of the prototypes were not serialized. There are also some guitars out there that were "repaired" and as neck plates cannot be had.... the repairs would not have serial numbers. |
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Location: SoCal | Close to 100 solidbodies??? And you're still married??? Must not have kids. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Not married... already proven a few times that is not one of my stronger vocations. No kids... too selfish. Lisa and I borrow a friends kids once a month or so, just to remind ourselves that we don't want any of our own. Other peoples kids you can play with, spoil with treats, then return to their owner when done.
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Location: puerto vallarta, mexico | grandkids are like that too miles. its fun watching the "what goes around comes around" in play. we get to spoil tyler and then send him home with noisey toys and bad habits. no wonder he wants to live with us on the beach. NO WAY! BEEN THERE--DONE THAT.
so i guess my black breadwinner with a heart on the headstock, eagle painted on the back and dice for knobs isnt a rare factory issue? what a project that one will be. pre amp was removed but it plays fine. if i play it in a dark club of learn some punk or grunge tunes (hard to call them that when they dont at all sound in tune) maybe it will be ok as is. i am working on some photos for the site but am far from having anything as cool as string dreams from our tejas amigo markito. kinda hard to follow a virtuoso performance of "voodo child" with some chuch berry 12 bar. i do have some very cool ovations here in mexico though 1/2 of my herd is still pasturing in new mexico. i do have the brown bird 12 string here and the adamas ss 12 string prototype too. i brought 13 more with me this time (good border story), but dont have all of my ukII,s here yet. please hang in there. i'll get it together, though i'm back on mexico time and the club opens again in about 2 weeks. |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Just trying out the memeber gallary picture thing.Heres a couple of deacons built by my guitar tech with ovation parts down to the screws that came from ovation...hope it works
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Breadwinner on Ebay w/ ?pups