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Location: Bowmanville Ontario Canada | I am trying to date my Ovation. I believe it was purchased May 1969. Is there anyway of telling when it was manufactured, and what the guitar is worth. Also I am trying to replace the plastic end of one tuning peg. Any ideas where I can order some. I would like to use the guitar while I am waiting for this item. Any ideas of what I could use.
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Mark
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Location: Scotland | Check the serial number against the reference section. The few Josh Whites I've seen had pretty poor-quality machines with white plastic buttons. When the model was reissued as the Folklore they used the far superior Schaller 3-on-a-plate M6's with pearloid buttons. Stewmac will have some suitable better quality replacement machines for your guitar. You'll be better off replacing the lot than trying to replace the cheap white plastic buttons, unless you're fanatical that it must stay all-original. Personally I think if appropriate new hardware is used it doesn't detract from value & can improve performance.
If your guitar actually is an early Josh White, congratulations on owning a very rare & cool guitar.
www.stewmac.com
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Mark, i have never seen a Josh White model with a model number...The model in the label always read "Josh White"...The folklore had a model 1114-4..The Josh White had his signature in gold on the headstock in the center strip of the carved headstock just above the trus rod cover..Also, it had his name on the label as the model....The Josh White became the folklore 1114-4 in 1969 after Josh's death.Also,the josh white all had a glossy bowl(shiny bowl)with no texture to it.Glossy like a car finish..I suspect you have a very early Folklore before they changed the tuners to the round white plastic ones..
The tuners on my Josh White are pretty common on other early classicals.I have seen them on other guitar models and have found them for sale at Guitar shows before.Im sure someone makes reproductions of these tuners..I have seen them... |
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Location: Bowmanville Ontario Canada | It seems like you are right nowhere on my guitar does it have Josh White. I must have have an early Folklore because I purchased it when I was 15 and I am now 48. I can not find the serial number. Any help? If I had the serial # I could date it. |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | The serial number if your guitar has the small paper label about 2 inch by 3 inch would be on the label.If you have a oval aluminum label,you look thru the soundhole up towards the neck heel ,there should be another small label with a number.... |
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Location: Bowmanville Ontario Canada | Thanks for the info. A few years back I had a pickup installed and they must have put the battery holder right over the label. I have the oval aluminum label. Is there any other way that I can date the guitar?
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Location: SoCal | The oval metal type labels indicate an early 70's guitar. |
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Location: Scotland | In which case the machines should be M6's. I may have a spare pearloid button which is the exact match for those on the Folkore. If not they are easily available.
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Location: Bowmanville Ontario Canada | Thanks for all your help everyone. By the way did I tell you that I have always loved the sound of my Ovation. I also have a Seagull S6 Mahogany Folk SG. It is great for finger picking.
I love the mello sound it gives. I believe it is because of the cedar top.
Can I order these pearloid buttons from Schaller or do I need to go through a distributor. I live in Ontario just outside of Toronto.
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Location: Bowmanville Ontario Canada | Just a quick update. I just picked up the pearloid buttons from the post office. Ended up costing me about $45 Canadian for six. It is nice to be back playing the Ovation. By the way if you can't fly with Eagles the next best thing is with a Seagull. |
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Location: NJ | too bad I didn't see this earlier I have schaller perloid buttons in stock for way less than that cost. |
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Location: Bowmanville Ontario Canada | Stewmac charged me $21US. Did I pay too much? |
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Location: Bowmanville Ontario Canada | Can anyone tell me the wood Ovation used in my 1972 1114-4?
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Location: 6 String Ranch | sitka spruce |
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Ovation Josh White 1114-4