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Location: Scotland | Don't fight over it yet guys, it'll only push the price up. This had a reserve of less than $300!!!!
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Paul T
Another solid body beauty, but the price is soaring.
Being saturday, my wife and I just sat through the PBS British serials as we always do, "Waiting for God", "As Time Goes By", "A Fine Romance", "Keeping Up Appearances", and "One Foot In The Grave", "Yes Minister", followed by Canadien "Red Green". My question is, are our minds being destroyed by programs that the British would not watch if they were forced? We also watch "Are You Being Served" during the week, which we love so much we can almost repeat the dialog. Is this a plot to win the revolution without firing a shot?
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Location: Tennessee | Methinks the infidels are storming the gates. With dishnetwork, BBC America provides a 24/7 frontal assault on our feeble minds. They use this to subvert the minds of the intelligencia, but then they have to wait three years until the dunderheads in Hollywood (failing to have any original thoughts of their own) recast the show and put it into primetime to follow our lame versions of a "news reader". ;) |
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Location: NoHo, CA | Uh...hey how 'bout that GP? |
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Location: Scotland | Bailey, you have a unique, and not unwelcome knack of sending a thread down a completely unrelated topic, how we get to shitty Brit TV from Ultra GP is beyond me. Anyway I guess that once they figured out you guys would laugh at The Benny Hill Show they could sell you any tired old crap, while in return we get Frasier, & Six Feet Under. Pretty good deal. Incidentaly, Jane Leeves, (Daphne from Frasier) used to be a Benny Hill bimbo. |
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Location: NJ | I am hooked on Ground Force and Father Ted on BBC america.
Father Ted has to be the funniest show on tv ever.
Ground Force is great I would love to get Alan Tommy and Charlie over to my home and do my garden. Well I would settle for just Charlie..... |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I think the detours are welcome.
As far as brit TV... it's "almost" the only thing I watch. Not because it's great, but because it doesn't suck. I love the dry humour and there is no violence. Add to the list the longest running show in TV history (Dr. Who) and "Red Dwarf" and "My Hero" and a newer one to our list which takes place in a corner store (forget the name). I spend the rest of my TV time with Stargate SG-1 and Lexx. I don't actually spend a lot of TV time, although it's on in the background a lot. If it's not one of the above shows or a few others... I don't even have it as background noise. I wish I could say the US TV shows "don't suck" and just watch them... but too many are just SOOOOOO lame it's embarrassing.
And... just to satisfy PT.. :) As many of these shows were taped in the 70's and early 80's there's always a chance one will spot an Ovation guitar. :) |
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Location: Scotland | Miles, I think Baileys detours are most welcome too. The corner store show sounds like "Open All Hours" Ronnie Barker & David Jason, a couple of brit comedy icons. Did you ever see "Dear John USA" started off as a Brit sitcom & was bought and remade by a US network. The original was incredible - funny & depressing in equal measure, the US version was just depressing for all the wrong reasons. Dr. Who is a British institution, and sorely missed, there's rumours of a Hollywod version. As fans of Red Dwarf & Dr Who, have you ever seen "The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy"?
There's some fantastic brit Comedy (with you all the way on Father Ted, Al) But equally there's a lot of garbage, you guys seem to get both in equal measure. Those of us over here with the basic 5 (yes, only 5!!!!) terrestrial channels only seem to see the good American stuff.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Benny and Mr. Bean were great. What about No Honestly? Is that in reruns somewhere? |
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Location: Scotland | "No Honestly" Did that get to the US? There was a second series called "Yes Honestly" Never seen it since I was a kid, must've been around '73/74 Starred John Alderton & Pauline Collins.
When I was in NYC during the summer my buddy who I stayed with in Brooklyn was addicted to "The Prisoner" |
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Location: NJ | here is a link to Charlie I did not know that was a nickname for Charlotte but hell I didn't know that Vivian was a male name either oh never mind......
just move that lorrie so I can get the rubbish in the skip.
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | But I digress..
That's what causes me to get off the subject sometimes, it's that I like to share some experiences that are current in my mind that seem like a part of life as well as our deep interest in Ovations. I usually log on after the wife has went to bed (she had a stroke a few years ago and has recovered but she has to get her rest) and the dogs have bedded down, and I reflect on things we all enjoy and, in truth, try to pull a few strings. The best dialog has elements of strong opinion from people who have lived long enough to have them (opinions).
But, again, I digress..
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | "Those of us over here with the basic 5 (yes, only 5!!!!) terrestrial channels only seem to see the good American stuff."
I'm kindof curious what is considered GOOD USA stuff over there?
When I was in England I discovered "Coronation Street" but our Dynasty (in your very uni-Que way of pronounciation) was all the rage there. Of course the B & B mum thought I was off my rocker as I was in the living room every morning by 6:00 to catch Fraggle Rock too. (I was about 25 years old at the time) |
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Location: NJ | Sue: What you watching?
me: ground force.
Sue: you just want to watch that bim.
me: no I want to learn about gardening
Sue: you could care less about gardening.
me: why can't you be more like Charlie.
Sue: you mean don't wear a bra.
me: no lift wheelbarrows full of concrete swing a sledge hammer help more in our construction jobs
Sue: she needs a bra
me: Charlie carries bags of stone and mortar etc
Sue: she needs to wear a bra
Me: but who cares she works really hard.
Sue: she needs to wear a bra.
What amazes me is at the end of every show they pop open a bottle of champagne and give a glass to everyone around from age 6 to 60. that would never fly in the US. You would get all these groups complaining you are promoting alcohol abuse in children etc. I find the European view of alcohol so refreshing. (I noticed the same view in Canada too) Growing up my parents would always have a bottle of wine at sunday dinner and everyone got a glass. It was not a big deal and no big deal was made of it. I think that is why I have a better attitude and respect towards alcohol today. |
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Location: Scotland | "I'm kind of curious what is considered GOOD USA stuff over there?"
Miles, these are a few of your exports which are my faves; The Larry Sanders Show, King Of The Hill, South Park, Family Guy, Six Feet Under, Frasier, Bilko, Jackass, any Star Trek 'cept DS9.
Back on thread, I've just noticed that the GP is up to $1200, and could be going to a good home.
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Location: UK | I just realised that the guitar my girlfriend has, and is going to sell is an Ultra-GP... She never knew.
That's nice isn't it. ;)
It might be appearing on ebay in the next few days unless we get offered something. I'll keep you posted. (probably after this one has finished)
for piccys; http://www.excy.co.uk/guitar/ |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | ain't it funny how they all come out of the closet when the price gets high enuf. |
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she's been meaning to sell it for a while as she just needs the money and she can't play it any more 'cos of an injury. So I was searching around the web tonight and found out what model it was exactly. She was pleasantly surprised.
Actually she's considering keeping it now and not selling ;) |
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Location: NJ | "...funny how they all come out of the closet....."
Oh,.....you were talking about the GUITARS!!!!
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Ok... I'll give ya most of those.. A few of course are no longer on the air, or on some pay access like HBO. 6 feet under was great, but I think they painted themselves into a corner on material. The others run new shows so infrequently that I usually ignor. Frasier is great, but you can see the SAME repeat more than once or twice a month.. and easily miss the new one.
Never heard of Bilko, StarTrek indeed, Jackass is only funny when Knoxville is doing something. The rest just stupid. |
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Location: Scotland | Miles, sorry, should have been "The Phil Silvers Show" you know..Sgt Bilko.
A friend of mine in Nashville refers to George Gruhn as "The Sgt Bilko of the vintage guitar trade" Quite apt I reckon.
Jackass isn't big or clever, but it makes me laugh till it hurts.
There's a new brit comedy which I'm sure will find it's way accross the pond. It's called "The Office" do not miss it, trust me. |
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Location: NoHo, CA | Okay, first off let me say I don't watch a lot of British TV.
Now onto the guitar. I love the GP, I think it's a great guitar but am I the only one who thinks that $1,200+ is waaaay too much? I know people pay it, but if Josh Homme didn't play one, would people pay that much? First off it's not even a real maple top, it's veneer. Now I own two and I love them both. Heck, I'd like to own more, but not at that price. Part of what makes the guitar so cool is that it's not a super high end guitar. It's just a unique, well made guitar. I have an Electra Phoneix Pro Endorser. It's basically the same deal as the GP. Same sunburst finish, veneer top, quality parts, not many made, made around the same time, but that guitar cost me $450. So did my first GP that I bought this year. Anyway, one one hand I'm happy to see ovation solidbodies get some notice on the other I think this is a fad and that the buyers who pay this much are getting a cool guitar, but not one worth the price. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | ickygoo
I agree with you in some ways that the price is high, on the other hand, it's nice to see an Ovation become a fad guitar. It means that your net worth has just increased somewhat. It might wash over on other Ovation solid bodies, or it might just go away, but it is an interesting development.
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The european custom of considering wine an almost required accompanyment to dining appears to have had a significant effect on their longivity. I think it is because beer and wine have been a part of human evolution since the earliest known evidence of the transition from hunters to farmers and the first crops grown have been thought to have been grain for beer. Our genes seem to have an affinity for moderate amounts of alcohol, probably original sin coincides with the knowledge of distillation where the ancient phrase, translated from the earliest hieroglyphs, was found. "Candy's fine, but Liquor's quicker".
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I've never heard of the "Endorser" guitar, but I think the price of any guitar is whatever the buyer thinks it's worth, and nothing else. GP's have been pushing 1K for a few years or I shop in the wrong places... I have never seen one for under $550. I felt pretty lucky to get mine for I think $800 if I recall correctly. I guess I look at it from the angle of that it feels and plays like a Hamer or a PRS for a fraction of the price. On the otherhand you can get a brand new set-neck Schecter for $700 which plays excellent also... But... for my Money.. there isn't a Strat worth more than a few hundred bucks.. so what do I know. |
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Location: Scotland | I agree, a guitar is worth what someone is prepared to pay. The GP's are fine guitars but thier current value is being inflated by association with a guitar-player who has a high profile in a very fashionable musical genre. This illustrates perfectly the power of artist association for a manufacturer. It'll be intersting to see if they retain their high prices if Josh Homme defects to another brand or his star wanes. |
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Location: SoCal | $1200???? I gotta get my blonde THead before somebody famous starts playing one and jacks up the price!!! |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Ikygoo;
First off it's not even a real maple top, it's veneer
Do you mean the flame maple top is a thin WOOD veneer, or is it actually fake flame..."Photoflame" is what Fender calls their version.
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Location: NoHo, CA | It's not as lame as a photo-flame. It's a plain maple cap topped with a thin layer of flame maple veneer. It's like a boob job for a maple top. Sort of. Actually I just like to say 'boob'.
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Location: St Louis | Hey Travis-
are you sure 'bout that? I look out my front p/u to have "look see" at the thickness of my top on my GP and it looked like a flame maple top to me at least a 1/4" in thickness.
I could see no veneer on top of it...
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Location: 6 String Ranch | The GPs all had a Thin venerial on the top, maybe only .030" Sorry, these were NOT carved like the mopauls. |
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Location: NJ | As long as it wasn't "venereal". |
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Location: NoHo, CA | See? I told ya. Anyway, with this sudden onslaught of GP's, someone's gotta put a black one up for sale. Come on. I need more GP's and I want a black one...please! By the way I'm a hypocrite. I just bought Miles's GP. I have a feeling it'll be worth every penny I was bitching about in my previous posts. 3 down 247 to go... |
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Location: Canada | What about an Ultra GS? How much should I pay for one? |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | The Ultra GS's never seemed to catch on. Probably because of the import factor. I think when compared to their counterparts of the day, they are fantastic guitars that can be had for a couple-to-three humdred bucks. The extra routing around the body and on the headstock I think set it above the crowd in a sea of strat-style clones. The assorted pickup and bridge arrangements were interesting too. |
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Location: NJ | I have a couple of gs guitars on my website |
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Location: Canada | oh so the GS was imported not made in the US. Anyone know where they were made? Korea perhaps? |
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Location: NJ | assembled in the us with parts from us and imports |
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Location: Houston, TX | Samick bodies, Korean necks, schaller hardware, assembled in North Carolina. Right guys? |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Scott
I think that was a description of them from an earlier post so I think you are right. Makes Vipers worth much more in my not so humble opinion.
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Location: Canada | Well, actually I'm new to this Ovation Solid Body scene, I'm more of a Steinberger player (any of you guys have one?). But kind of got interested in these puppies since my first guitar was an Ovation Celebrity Semi-Accoustic. Anyways, so got my first Ovation Solid Body (Ultra GS) which I know isn't a TRUE TRUE ovation solidbody but now I'm looking into a UKII or a Breadwinner if I can get my hands on one. Not too fond of the Viper.. just something about the shape is not too appealing, the body's too small or something...(no offense to you viper players out there) |
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Location: Scotland | "The body's too small" is an interesting comment from a Steinberger player! The UK11 has a slightly different shape to the Viper, but is pretty much the same size. |
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Location: Canada | What I meant was the body's not proportional to the rest of the guitar. Looks like a Les Paul without the weight. Maybe just the shape doesn't go well with the rest of the guitar. Just my opinion. Hope I haven't offended anyone |
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Location: Scotland | Maybe it's the 24-fret neck that makes it look like that to you. Having said that, all USA Ovation solids have 2 octave fingerboards.
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Location: Canada | Which totally rocks! I still can't quite get used to my Ultra GS cause it's missing a couple frets!! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | the GS and the bass (BS? sorry don't remember the letters and couldn't resist)bodies were made from layered wood. Samick piled it up with glue and made their own body blanks. The GP, while having a thin venereal top did have solid pieces of wood making up the body. |
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Location: Canada | Will current Samick bodies fit with the Ovation neck? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Good question. The gs was pretty much a straight strat style guitar off their production tooling. I'd check if the heel size is the same, the scale lenght and all that. It might fit. |
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Location: Canada | Cause the GS body is really boring. Especially mine. A single humbucker on a black body. Really boring... |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Funny thing about perception.. I think the GS body is anything but boring. I think the routing around the edge really sets it apart from all the strat-clones out there.. |
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Location: Canada | not just boring, kinda bulky too... I guess they can't be compared to Steinberger bodies but I would prefer a body more like an Ibanez RG series or a Kramer. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Send the GS to me.. I will take it off your hands. I love'em... I just wish they had better necks. |
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Location: Canada | Want to trade? |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Rory, email me. mileskb@aol.com |
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Location: NoHo, CA | How come we're talking about GS's in the GP thread? You guys keep getting my hopes up that someone has posted something about owning a black GP that they want to unload. I'll keep hoping. Continue on with the GS... |
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