amp choices.....decisions decisions
sonofapreacherman1987
Posted 2008-10-06 2:31 AM (#17535)
Subject: amp choices.....decisions decisions


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i need some advice from my elders and peers...
i am going on the market for another amp now. i own a silvertone 1482 as of now and a fender frontman (for my room).
the amps i am now looking at purchasing are a
1. baldwin 2x12 combp amp (350 dollars)
2. 1950's danelectro model 68 amp (about 250 dollars)
3. have a custom made weber 5e3 amp (about 550 dolars)

can i get some feedback on what you guys/gals know about these amps and maybe help guide me into some kind of direction.
ps. are those baldwins solid state or tube?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-10-06 5:44 AM (#17536 - in reply to #17535)
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I'm pretty sure that all Baldwin amps were solid state.
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alpep
Posted 2008-10-06 8:29 AM (#17537 - in reply to #17535)
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all 3 are very cool choices

the baldwin will probably be a little sterile but it was in the time of crappy transisiters so it may have a "fuzz" tonality to it.

the dano will overdrive nicely but is not well made you probably need to go over it.

for reasons I wish not to discus I will not buy weber products
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-06 9:25 AM (#17538 - in reply to #17535)
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I remember in the late 70's when people were saying "... tubes! who would want a tube amp?! Go solid state and have more reliability."

The interesting thing is that some manufacturers back in those days made solid states which attempted to emulate tube amps.

I haven't played any of your amps so I can't comment on them. Though I have a solid state amp from the late 70's and it's good enough, and it's still going strong.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-10-06 9:27 AM (#17539 - in reply to #17535)
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I kinda like my Weber grill.
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-06 10:16 AM (#17540 - in reply to #17535)
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weber grill?
True, some solid states don't have that tube tone, but some tube amps are weber grills too. There are plus and minuses to both.
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Beal
Posted 2008-10-06 10:23 AM (#17541 - in reply to #17535)
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You got to get the gas Weber though, not the charcoal, they take so long to heat up and are often inconsistent. Gas is always the same and reliable.
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cliff
Posted 2008-10-06 10:34 AM (#17542 - in reply to #17535)
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Bullshit.
CHARcoal, Baby!!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-10-06 10:41 AM (#17543 - in reply to #17535)
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+1 ... and go with mesquite
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-10-06 10:47 AM (#17544 - in reply to #17535)
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Boy, this went south in a hurry.
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Beal
Posted 2008-10-06 10:54 AM (#17545 - in reply to #17535)
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You started it.
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-06 10:55 AM (#17546 - in reply to #17535)
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I used to be charcol guy, but the wife changed me ... into a gas guy. The gas is just so darn convenient.

In fact, we now have two cookers
a weber, the one with the cast iron grill, which gives a great cooking surface.

And we also have a kahuna burner, for stir fry and deep fry.
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Beal
Posted 2008-10-06 11:03 AM (#17547 - in reply to #17535)
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I'd got for either the Baldwin or Dano, depending on the condition.

Or maybe it should be said "Baldwin, Dano"
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Beal
Posted 2008-10-06 11:05 AM (#17548 - in reply to #17535)
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We've got gas built in the Summer Kitchen here in Florida and little Webers elsewhere. The smoker is electric and that works great with your choice of wood chips. Cliff can tell you how good it works on salmon.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-10-06 11:12 AM (#17549 - in reply to #17535)
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I use Ducane.

To some extent heat is heat, but there's a lot of nice 'little' things that make a good bbq grill nice to own. Of course it depends how much you will use it.

Dave
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-10-06 11:40 AM (#17550 - in reply to #17535)
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Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
You started it.
And at the same time he bought another guitar. Talk about multitasking. :cool:
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Beal
Posted 2008-10-06 11:51 AM (#17551 - in reply to #17535)
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He is good at that!
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cliff
Posted 2008-10-06 11:57 AM (#17552 - in reply to #17535)
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m-m-m-m-m-m-m! . . . . smoked salmon . . . . .
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-10-06 12:42 PM (#17553 - in reply to #17535)
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I used to be a charcoal snob but no more.
My gas grill is hooked right up to the house. No bottles to change, always there when I need it.

I had to use charcoal up north this last summer.
Didn't care for the "flavor" it added to the burgers.
I'll grill when it's 20 degrees in January as long as the wind doesn't pick up.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-10-06 1:20 PM (#17554 - in reply to #17535)
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Originally posted by Capo Guy:
Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
You started it.
And at the same time he bought another guitar. Talk about multitasking. :cool:
Yup, check the sig...
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dobro
Posted 2008-10-06 9:15 PM (#17555 - in reply to #17535)
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For acoustic, for Ovation, nothing beats a Bose
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-06 10:37 PM (#17556 - in reply to #17535)
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As soon as I have an extra $3k, I'm gettin one.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-06 10:39 PM (#17557 - in reply to #17535)
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Originally posted by cliff:
m-m-m-m-m-m-m! . . . . smoked salmon . . . . .
cliff, you gotta make a trip out this way for the good stuff... Copper River... dats the shit!
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cliff
Posted 2008-10-06 11:21 PM (#17558 - in reply to #17535)
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I've been meaning to for a LONG time, Damon!!

I've got a friend(CRAZYsumBitch,too!) that I've known since 2nd-3rd grade that packed up his family & moved out there ('bout a year or two before St.Helens). I've seen him a couple times since, but always back out here.

Always had talked about getting out there t'see him . . . and never did . . .


gotta' get ROUND t'that (while I still can).

Keep a FatOne on ice for me, willya'? . . .
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-06 11:41 PM (#17559 - in reply to #17535)
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you got it. plan a mid May trip, that's when you can have fresh Copper River on your plate within 24 hours of that thing swimmin.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-10-07 11:58 AM (#17560 - in reply to #17535)
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I prefer Alaska King, very disappointed with Copper River last couple of years. Nothing like getting fish off the boat, or off your own line.

Seriously Cliff... even the 'Ol Curmudgeon Al admitted he needed to come out again. Just avoid Crab Cakes, they don't do those so well around here, but every other seafood, especially Salmon... can't be beat.

Maybe You, Al, the significant others, and the OFC Northwest contingent need to plan for Vancouver Island Music Fest 2009.
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sonofapreacherman1987
Posted 2008-10-07 2:54 PM (#17561 - in reply to #17535)
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ummmm...soooo
what do you guys think about the baldwin 2x12 with a tube screamer running into it. i already have that crunch tone amp (my 1482) so i am kind of looking for something a little different, and more reliable, but also it needs to be albe to dirty up a little bit when i need it to. i am looking for something that gets more of a country/jazz tone, but can go ballsy when i need it to. i am thinking the baldwin and then just make some of my own pedals from schematics and run into it.
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sonofapreacherman1987
Posted 2008-10-07 2:59 PM (#17562 - in reply to #17535)
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and also i was looking at the pignose g40v, a cool little amp that easily upgraded (with a new speaker) to a killer tube neil young(ish) tone amp. plus it is 40 watts, thats alot of wattage, i could run it into other exterior cabs/speakers and still have plenty of push from it with 40 watts of tube power.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-07 4:00 PM (#17563 - in reply to #17535)
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sonofapreacherman, could you please stay on topic? oh wait... nevermind.

Do you have a few amps that are available and that's what's driving the questions? I would imagine you might find 1 person, maybe, that would be able to give advise on something so detailed as a baldwin with a tube screamer.

For my money, I'm looking to get either of the these three below. They seem to fit the sound description of what you're looking for as well.

The Carvin Nomad (or possibly BelAir) or the Peavey Delta Blues.

Both Carvin and Peavey are very reasonably priced. As for the Delta, Hartley says it's the best amp Peavey's ever made. The Carvins just have a nice tone to them in my ears anyway. I heard my first one while meeting with MR. Ovation here at a guitar swap event. When we heard it, our heads both turned to see where that sweet tone was coming from. In a room full of wailing guitars and amps (mostly vintage stuff), that says a lot to me when something sticks out like that.

I'm not versed enough on the one's you've asked about though, sorry.
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-07 4:39 PM (#17564 - in reply to #17535)
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I'm a big fan of those pig noses. Though I can't remember if this is voiced better for a single coil or a humbucker.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-10-07 5:17 PM (#17565 - in reply to #17535)
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damon....I got a buncha amps if you are interested.

pedals too :rolleyes:
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Beal
Posted 2008-10-07 5:43 PM (#17566 - in reply to #17535)
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Do they smell like fish?
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-10-07 5:52 PM (#17567 - in reply to #17535)
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Sonofapreacherman...( that`s a long one )..

Are those amps. that U mention , old things ?

Vic
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sonofapreacherman1987
Posted 2008-10-08 2:28 AM (#17568 - in reply to #17535)
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the pignose g40v is a new model
the bladwin 2x12 combo is very much an old thing
and the danelectro model 68 is old as well (like late 50's old)
and my silvertone 1482 is mid-late 60's.
yea i think i am going to go baldwin, it is just to rare at too good of a price to just pass up. plus i think it would get a pretty nice country/jazz tone with my "new" viper i just purchased
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sonofapreacherman1987
Posted 2008-10-08 2:29 AM (#17569 - in reply to #17535)
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and yes they are amps
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-10-08 9:42 AM (#17570 - in reply to #17535)
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I've been listening to a Brian Setzer CD entitled Rockabilly Riot where he recorded all 23 numbers using a tiny vintage Supro amp. There's something to be said for old vintage amps. I love my '66 Bandmaster, but it would be a beast to lug around for gigs. My only suggestion is to stay as small and light as you can get by with, and we can all get by with less than we think.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-08 1:20 PM (#17571 - in reply to #17535)
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were running on the same wavelength it seems Brad.Last night I decided it was time to learn some rockabilly so of course I had to start with the modern master.

I found that Brian's not too easy to follow, but I've just about got Rock This Town now.

I need a reverb tank too. All these needs now that I started playing serious again, but no funds dammit.
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-08 4:13 PM (#17572 - in reply to #17535)
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I forgot about the weight factor ... absolutely go with the lightest.
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sonofapreacherman1987
Posted 2008-10-13 4:17 AM (#17573 - in reply to #17535)
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has anyone heard anything about the new pignose g40v all tube amp they just came out with?
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