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Location: Australia | I ordered a 1687 Adamas (blue) from the custom shop in June and now it's on it's way.
I must say I'm pretty excited about getting my paws on this one.
I'll post review when I get it. |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Custom shop huh!! I think thats on the 23rd floor at Ovation.... |
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Location: RI. That small State out East | That is exciting... Post some pic's when it lands.
I'm sure you will love it.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | The 23rd floor? The bell tower is the 6th! not that I ever spent any time there......... |
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Location: NJ | ".....ppfffffftttttt!!!!......here!....." |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Bill, this is exactly what im saying.There is no 23rd floor,just like there is no Custom shop at ovation...... ;) ;) |
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Location: NJ | I dunno sam I think willie might disagree with you. |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | Al, last time i spoke with willie he was in the eng. dept working on protos and other experiments..Although he may work on some unusuall models ,i have never known ovation to have a "custom shop".When i think of custom shop ,i think of whole separate dept with several employees only working on custom orders.Example:martin,gibson and fender..I think willie works on some guitars because he is talented and has a knack for it but im sure he would not consider his dept "the custom shop"...Although a real honest to goodness custom shop wouldnt be a bad idea..Willie does great work and is a super nice guy...And to top it off he is GREEK ....... |
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Location: Australia | Well what I know is that this guitar is being custom built for me by Ovation.
Whether it's built in a room that actually has a "Custom Shop" sign hanging on the door is irrelevant to me.
It's a one off built the way I want it.
That's "Custom Shop" enough for me.
Thanks for trying to "rain on my parade". |
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Location: Scotland | "Custom Shop" is yet more marketing speak, coined by Fender to justify having a team of highly skilled luthiers try to duplicate what Leo's unskilled workforce threw together in the 50's, and to get a premium price for using materials which by the 90's they deemed no longer cost-effective for production guitars. Check the website, Ovation doesn't use the phrase "custom shop" however they do offer "Special Orders" and "Custom Orders". The point here is that it is possible to order a guitar from the factory with non-production specification. Whether it is made on the same line as the production stuff or not isn't really the issue. The fact is that an original-style Adamas is not currently available, so by definition richardd's guitar is "Custom Made" I have been discussing a "personal" non-production "custom order" guitar with the factory for a while & I should have it in a few months.
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Location: Australia | Paul, I agree with your comments.
I'll let others waste time discussing "Custom Shop" terminology, I'll enjoy my new Adamas.
...when it finally arrives that is... |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures no matter what you call the shop!!
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If I read Sam correctly... the shop would have to have the parking in the rear.
Sorry folks... it was there... someone had to say it... :) |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Richardd
Pay no attention to this envious bunch of parade rainers, just let us all know when you get your guitar and if possible post some pictures. If it is custom made does it matter where the assembly is done. My sense of reality is heightened by a factor of ten by my new computer, so expect some astounding insight into these matters.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Richardd, tell them all to sod off!!! Your guitar should be great. Ovation has always made custom guitars. Scholz double neck, the 9 string etc. Actually the custom shop is on the 7th floor, thats's where you wound up after you were in the bell tower for a while, but then again it was the times. Willie is an excellent mechanic for gitters, and Sam, although he is greek, he also is totally into Nationals. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | One more thing, It's nice to see talk about Adamas and the guitars that should define Ovation. I do get tired of reading about F*^$#@%$#ing Celebrities. Yes I know this is a personal problem and am seeking therapy but there you have it anyway. |
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Location: NJ | Jeez!
Y'don't hear from Bill in a long time, and then you get all these "rapid fire" responses!!
hmmm.....
It must be either:
A. - It's raining down in Jacksonville
B. - The golf course is closed for maintenance
3. - Bill's had a sentimental "flashback" and found a bell tower somewhere!
"....sanc-tu-aryyyyyyy!!...." |
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Location: NJ | Perhaps we should look into the feasibility of an OFC "custom model"? Maybe a SlotHead re-issue?
Theoretically, 12-15 custom guitars SHOULD be more cost-efficient to produce than a "one-sie. two-sie".
Probably the HARDEST thing to do would be to get everyone to AGREE on things like features, colors, etc. Perhaps a "poll"? |
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Location: Scotland | I've just ordered a guitar based on a 70's Folklore. Deepbowl cutaway, A-braced, 12-fret wide-neck, slot-head, Custom Legend trim, OP50 & trubalance pick-up plus a bridge mounted mini-mike direct to an XLR. I'm counting the weeks. |
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Location: NJ | drrooooool!!! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Yes it has been cold in Jax this week, only the 60's, how soon we get spoilt! I got a bit of a cold too so I'm taking it easy this weekend, don't want to have to call in sick on Monday. |
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Location: Australia | Hey Paul,
Your custom Folklore sounds like it should be a magnificent instrument.You've obviously put alot of thought into it's features.
There is nothing out of the ordinary about the 1687 I've ordered. I wanted it to be the same as the 96' model I had stolen.
Mine should be here on Monday.
... and to quote that great tunesmith Tom Petty :
"The waiting is the hardest part" |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Dubyatoo
Where is it that you are going to call in on monday? Some place is going to be scratching their head and saying "Bill called in sick, who the hell is Bill?" I thought your retirement had become permanent. If I call in sick, it sounds like this "Dear I think I'm sick, would you take the dog out?"
This new computer is so fast that my posts appear before I can even think about them, so excuse me if they appear to be off the top of my head compared to the well thought out posts you are used to.
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Location: SoCal | I, for one, can't call in sick. My boss is a real son of a bitch.
I hate being self employed sometimes. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | When I call in sick it's to the dog so that she'll know to go to Mom to get let out, which she usually does anyway. They always like mama best. |
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Location: Australia | What can I say, it's finally here !!
How anyone could complain about the quality of USA Ovations is beyond me.
The factory setup is perfect and in tune out of the box, no sharp fret ends or any sign of sub par workmanship.
It sounds enormous, better than my orginal 96' model Adamas, very loud and very sweet and dare I say it very woody.
Time to a/b it against my other acoustics.
Well, the Custom Legend pled "no contest" and the Taylor 714 is complaining that the Adamas's strings are fresher.
Plugging into the Optima preamp is equally rewarding.
How a guitar made of so many synthetic materials can sound so natural and "acoustic" truly baffles me.
One point of contention however is that this guitar has an ebony fretboard and my original had walnut.
I did give the dealer a picture of my original guitar and the model number, never thinking the fretboard material was a issue. The only old style Adamas I've ever seen with ebony was Adrian Legg's.
Anyway I'm not sure if I'll persue the matter with the dealer.After my initial suprise I'm finding the ebony much smooth under the fingers than the old walnut board and it certainly won't get grubby like walnut.
Anyway I'm happy it's here and playing it constantly.
I'll try and work out how to post a picture.
It certainly is a beautiful guitar. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Richardd, Fingerboard, you're better off with ebony even though it's not like the original. They're probably not impregnating the walnut anymore or even using the material for fingerboards. Frankly ebony is better (looking, feeling, sounding), let it be a mistake (oversite) that worked in your favor. |
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Location: NJ | richardd enjoy your guitar. I agree with cwk2 about the ebony fingerboard |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Glad to hear you are happy with your guitar. Just an opinion from someone (me) that worked in sawmills as a kid. Walnut is pretty in color and grain but it does not have the density and hardness of ebony by a long shot. When you have had your guitar for 30 or more years as I have some of mine, you will be patting yourself on the back that your finger board isn't worn out like some of those walnut ones.
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Location: Australia | Thanks Bailey, I remember the walnut board on my old Adamas used to get very dry all the time and it certainly never had the feel of ebony.
There are a couple of other things that I've noticed about this new Adamas that are different from my 90's model.
Firstly, it doesn't have that smoother pickguard area and the top doesn't have a sheen like the old one.
Also the texture on the back is a little more textured and like the top it has more of a matt finish.
I think one of the factory guys posted that the company was planning on reissuing the 1687 & 1688.
Can anyone elaborate? |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | My Adamas is a 1981 1687. I trully love that gutar as am sure you will love yours...Paul Hebert |
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| Re-issue in the line now ,With walnut f/b and carved P/H/ scroll.I think they are for ex-port but not sure about USA sales. |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | After 2O years of alot of playing, the walnut fingerboard on my Adamas has held up well. I must admit tho, there are many times when I had thought what my black Adamas would look like with an ebony fingerboard. That would be very nice indeed...Paul Hebert |
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Location: Australia | Paul,
I am certainly enjoying this guitar, I find it hard to put down.
To me this is finally the acoustic guitar that has it all.
1.Rich acoustic tone
2.Sounds natural plugged in
3.Excellent playability/setup
4.Versatile electronics
5.Tough as an old boot
6.Beautiful to behold
Please forgive my rantings.
I was nervous about ordering this guitar sight unseen but this Adamas has exceeded my expectations! |
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| There was some discussion in this thread on whether Ovation has a custom shop. I'm unsure what the "correct" answer is generally speaking, but my understanding is that Adamas I and II models continue to be hand made in a separate area of the shop. |
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