Elixir Nano web coated strings!
dweezil
Posted 2008-10-14 1:51 PM (#16505)
Subject: Elixir Nano web coated strings!


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WOW!

I have been using D'Addario strings for years. I am a huge fan of them. Bloody great for electrics so have been using on my acoustics.

I have some Elixirs (the original PolyWeb coated ones) some time back and really thought they were crap.

Now the NanoWeb coated ones are amazing.

No more D'Addarios for me.

It's a life changing moment. Anyone else found these to be seriously tasty?

Incredible.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-14 1:54 PM (#16506 - in reply to #16505)
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I use em on my 2080.

Use Alchemys on all the others though.
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BT717
Posted 2008-10-14 1:57 PM (#16507 - in reply to #16505)
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Dweezil, I swear by them!!!! All I ever use! I find I can play these string 6-8 hours a week for up to 4-5 month and they still sound good.
Now, there will be other opinions comming this way that won't be as positive as mine. BUT, I'm with you! :D Best string out there $for$!
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-10-14 2:11 PM (#16508 - in reply to #16505)
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How much are you paying per set?
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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-14 2:19 PM (#16509 - in reply to #16505)
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They sparkle and the G string just zings! Glorious, righteous, nice one!

I think Strings Direct in the UK do them for have pretty good prices but I'm open to suggestions as they are pretty expensive compared to say D'Addarios.

Praps buying bulk in the US and shipping em in is the answer but I will say this, I'm not going back. I wonder how good my other gits could sound with these puppies.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-10-14 2:26 PM (#16510 - in reply to #16505)
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I am also a Nanofan. I did try a set of Alchemny (Gold Phos) on the 1768, and they sound very nice too. Not to enamored with the D'Addario's anymore.
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-14 2:32 PM (#16511 - in reply to #16505)
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I've tried them and didn't find them so inspiring ... but others may differ.
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birddog
Posted 2008-10-14 2:34 PM (#16512 - in reply to #16505)
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Wow, they are kinda pricey.
I know Alan Horvath swears by them but he probably get paid to.
If they last that long they may be worth it.
I'll have to start price shopping.
http://www.juststrings.com/elixiracousticguitarnanoweb.html

Wally
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-10-14 2:47 PM (#16513 - in reply to #16505)
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Strings direct do them at £11.95 a set (a little over $20USD) or £10.50 if you buy 10 sets. They're about $14 a set in the USA, so by the time you've bought a coupla dozen, paid shipping VAT and import duty, the saving isn't going to be a whole lot.

Personally I find the tonal compromise with any coated string to be a problem. I'm fortunate that I'm able to buy strings in bulk at wholesale prices, and with my body chemistry it really doesn't matter which brand, they only ever do 1 gig and get changed. With Elixers I can get maybe 2 gigs, 3 at the most out of them
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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-14 2:50 PM (#16514 - in reply to #16505)
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I find the tonal difference to be HUGE so am prepared to pay the extra for the nanowebs.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-10-14 2:53 PM (#16515 - in reply to #16505)
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I aggree, The Nanos sound better than the Polys. But any good uncoated string sounds better, they just don't sound good for as long. Coated strings are OK and serve a purpose, but not for me, at any price.
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Beal
Posted 2008-10-14 2:54 PM (#16516 - in reply to #16505)
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I don't like them that much and prefer the regular Daddario. Nanos are OK on Nationals.
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cliff
Posted 2008-10-14 2:56 PM (#16517 - in reply to #16505)
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I can't stand coated strings . . .
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-10-14 2:59 PM (#16518 - in reply to #16505)
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Sorry, I'm not into coated strings. They just sound deal to me and I don't like the greasy feel. I don't mind changing them a bit more frequently. I mostly use EJ-16s.

Dave
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-14 3:10 PM (#16519 - in reply to #16505)
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I don't play any one guitar enought to need coated strings. I also have a bunch of free or cheap uncoated strings. Those would sound best to me if I'd put them on and they last a long time sitting in front of me in the packages.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2008-10-14 4:48 PM (#16520 - in reply to #16505)
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I prefer the original Poly's... call me weird. (Dangerous thing to say to this group.)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-10-14 4:53 PM (#16521 - in reply to #16505)
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How many of the people here who don't like Elixirs have tried the Elixir phospher/bronze, either lights or medium lights? They don't feel like coated strings and are much brighter than regular Elixirs. And they still last forever......
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gulfcoast
Posted 2008-10-14 5:05 PM (#16522 - in reply to #16505)
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I don`t like the p/bronze or the ployweb but i do like the nanowebs. I like adamas 1868`s but i can`t find them.
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muzza
Posted 2008-10-14 5:07 PM (#16523 - in reply to #16505)
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I just started using them and found I LIKE the greasy feel. (call me kinky...)

I bought $400US worth from StringsDirect (I think) for $11.95 each when the Aussie dollar was at $0.95. (Now its $0.65) with the intention of selling most of them on eBay for $25AU. Free shipping within the US for that amount, and my cousin brought them home for me. They're up to $40 a set over here. I also got a set for my bass for $35 - then found that they cost $120 a set here.

The Nano's weren't as bright as the D'adds straight away, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. The Nano's are on my Elite and one of my beaters and still sound like they did a month ago. I picked up the '05 last night to do some finger pickin' stuff and the D'Adds felt awful.

If I can sell 20 sets @ $25, I'll make a little profit and get 10 sets, plus the bass strings for nuthin'.

Dweez, if you know someone going to or coming from the States, maybe you should investigate doing something similar.
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-10-14 6:48 PM (#16524 - in reply to #16505)
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There is absolutly a loss with the coatings. The nono's by Elixir are the best I have found for sound.
I play so much plugged in now these are absolutly worth the price. I pay $10 a set, and get about three or four times the life from the $5 strings that sound fantastic to me acoustically.
I always keep some nice bright bronze wounds around so if I am doing an Acoustic Jam I can sound great.
The Nonwebs do not quite cut it when your up against Taylors and you want your Adamas to sound professional.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-14 7:07 PM (#16525 - in reply to #16505)
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I still have whatever Northcountry sent with the 30thCL that I bought from him. They last forever if you don't play much and sound very good. It's time to tweak the neck and put some different strings on it, though.
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wilblee
Posted 2008-10-14 7:12 PM (#16526 - in reply to #16505)
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I don't mind the sound of Elixirs. but I quit using them because of quality control issues. I would get a package where 1 or 2 of the strings had the little ball missing. I also had a bunch break at or near the ball end. For that much money the QC issues were a deal killer.
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-10-14 7:13 PM (#16527 - in reply to #16505)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
How many of the people here who don't like Elixirs have tried the Elixir phospher/bronze, either lights or medium lights? They don't feel like coated strings and are much brighter than regular Elixirs. And they still last forever......
I've tried 'em, Paul and, though I am a fan of the nano's, I found the P/B's a little too bright for my taste. Or maybe it's just the 1537 that's a little off...I was going to try a few others in hopes of warming up the sound a little more than the nano's but I think I'm just still hankering for the sound I used to get off my ol' Tak which had a cedar top. The 1537'll never leave me but I've got to replace that Tak.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2008-10-14 8:09 PM (#16528 - in reply to #16505)
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I don't like them. Then again, I don't care for D'Adario's either. When I got my Morgan Monroe, it came with D'Adario EXP's. I immediately changed them and put on SIT phosphor bronze, and everyone agreed that the volume increased by one third.
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Oddball
Posted 2008-10-14 8:29 PM (#16529 - in reply to #16505)
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Per ravings on this post, tried Elixir P/Bs on an Elite T. For double the price I usually pay, I didn't think they were much different than what I took off. I generally play frequently-changed D'ads. Actually, I play whatever the cheapest set of strings happens to be at the music store that month.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-10-14 8:51 PM (#16530 - in reply to #16505)
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Whatever floats your boat!
Elixirs do it for me and the nano's (and now the new phos/bronz) are what I've been using for over 10 years now...They last, sound great, and stay in tune. I have no idea what greasy means to describe these strings...maybe the poly's but not the nano's...but as always: ymmv!
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Akami
Posted 2008-10-14 9:53 PM (#16531 - in reply to #16505)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
How many of the people here who don't like Elixirs have tried the Elixir phospher/bronze, either lights or medium lights? They don't feel like coated strings and are much brighter than regular Elixirs. And they still last forever......
The Elixir phosphor bronze medium lights are the only strings I use after trying a set a couple years ago.

Love the rich tonality and have always preferred my strings after they've been broken in, which the Elixirs give right out of the package.
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DRK HRSE
Posted 2008-10-15 12:35 AM (#16532 - in reply to #16505)
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Originally posted by gulfcoast:
I don`t like the p/bronze or the ployweb but i do like the nanowebs. I like adamas 1868`s but i can`t find them.
Try http://www.juststrings.com/adamasacousticguitar.html

I didn't check actual Model #'s but it's the only place I've seen multiple Adamas types
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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-15 3:34 AM (#16533 - in reply to #16505)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
How many of the people here who don't like Elixirs have tried the Elixir phospher/bronze, either lights or medium lights? They don't feel like coated strings and are much brighter than regular Elixirs. And they still last forever......
That's my point/question (I think!).

The Elixir polywebs feel like coated strings and really dislike them. The Elixir nanowebs however don't feel like coated strings and sound/feel seriously good.

Now I wonder whether people who are saying they don't like Elixir strings have ONLY tried the Polywebs.

Anyhow I know it would be a fairly heated debate but was not expecting so many people to say they used them and like them so much. Maybe I should have started a poll.

Yes they are more enpensive but worth it in my opinion.
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muzza
Posted 2008-10-15 8:11 AM (#16534 - in reply to #16505)
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I agree Dweez

BTW, the nano's I bought were 80/20, not phosphor bronze.

I like 'em.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-10-15 12:06 PM (#16535 - in reply to #16505)
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I like the Cleartone EMP coated P/Bs. They sound quite good, as good as most uncoated strings I've tried. They are a bit pricey but last forever. The only strings that so far sound better are Martin Marquis. But we're still experimenting with different brands and types of strings. Its a never ending experiment really.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2008-10-15 12:06 PM (#16536 - in reply to #16505)
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I HAVE tried them. One of my good friends swears by them, and we have fun picking on each other about them.
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dobro
Posted 2008-10-15 2:11 PM (#16537 - in reply to #16505)
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Has anyone tried Ernie Ball 2154 Coated Acoustic Guitar Strings ? One distinctive feauture of these is that the unwounds are also coated. I wonder how they sound... GP gave high marks.
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Steve
Posted 2008-10-15 2:22 PM (#16538 - in reply to #16505)
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Gotta friend who tried the Ernie Ball Titaniums recently..says there great strings..just pricey..
I tried the Rohrbacher Titaniums a while back..lasted quite a while...
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Beal
Posted 2008-10-15 2:29 PM (#16539 - in reply to #16505)
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Moody raises a good poing, I've only tried the old nanos. I'll get around to the new ones someday.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-10-15 2:32 PM (#16540 - in reply to #16505)
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Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
Moody raises a good poing, I've only tried the old nanos. I'll get around to the new ones someday.
I've never heard it called "raising a poing" before.....
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cliff
Posted 2008-10-15 2:39 PM (#16541 - in reply to #16505)
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it's an amalgam of "annoying" and "point" . . .
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dobro
Posted 2008-10-15 6:21 PM (#16542 - in reply to #16505)
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When a string snaps on ya, you've raised a "POING!!"
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-10-15 7:44 PM (#16543 - in reply to #16505)
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Guys, what you need to remember is that strings have been 5 or 6 bucks a set for 20-odd years, and that's what the vast majority of consumers are prepared to pay. They'll problably remain at 5 or 6 bucks, or less, for years to come. The problem is at 5 bucks a set there's no real money to be made by anyone, not manufacturers, distributors and especialy retailers. Strings have become a commodity, kinda like computer parts, and stores stock them as a service, because they have to, rather than a profit generator. So now there's a ton of companies attempting to reinvent the wheel so they can sell you these "new improved" "Titanium" "coated" or whatever strings that you all MUST have at 3 to 4 times the price.

Now as a music retail veteran I could do with the extra margin, but as a consumer, and more importantly as a very experienced musician, my bullshit detector is on overload.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-10-15 8:14 PM (#16544 - in reply to #16505)
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Ok, here's an alternative to coated strings; Coat your own. I've mentioned this stuff before, but forgot about it, even though I use it constantly.

String life

This is a liquid polymer which applies a barrier against oxidation and corrosion to the strings. It was originaly developed for concert harps. I've used this stuff for 5 or 6 years. It's very inexpensive, can be applied to plain and wound strings and does not alter tone in any way. Even with my rancid body chemistry I can get twice as long from a standard set using this stuff. I bought 5 bottles years ago and have more than 1 bottle left. It's used every time I change strings and at the end of every gig. Most gigs I have almost 40 strings to deal with. If you have corrosive sweat and buy strings retail, it'll save you a bunch.
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