13013772 serial no.?
balladeerman
Posted 2003-08-09 11:11 AM (#205576)
Subject: 13013772 serial no.?


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I know i know, ovations what we're here for but i do like to delve into tele's a bit(!). But since i'm not to aversed in the details i was wondering if any1 cud decifer the serial no. for me. saw some guy advertising it from Indonesia, said it's made in the US, but doesn't it have too many no.s? :confused:
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grrroovedude
Posted 2003-08-10 3:35 PM (#205577 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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http://home.alltel.net/vintage/dating.htm

Indeed, no 8 digit s/n. Is there a letter as well?

Martin
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balladeerman
Posted 2003-08-10 3:53 PM (#205578 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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he sez thats all ther is. i asked him for a photo, so waiting on that. Found that he has an account on ebay, well had, since it's been suspended! So unless it's a unbelievably rare fender it's gotta b a fake. Shame i was looking forward to it.
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BruDeV
Posted 2003-08-10 4:48 PM (#205579 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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FYI the new Squire Fenders are made in Indonesia. Which seems kind of strange, being as Indonesia is one of the centers for counterfeit goods. Someone at Fender must of had an attack of dumb.
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balladeerman
Posted 2003-08-10 4:54 PM (#205580 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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FYI i know. I'm talking abt a 1972 fender telecaster, I asked him specifically if it was a squier. he denied it. and he said it was made in the US.
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BruDeV
Posted 2003-08-10 4:57 PM (#205581 - in reply to #205576)
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That number looks like a Squire number to me. More than likely it's I3013772 not 13013772
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F.Bailey
Posted 2003-08-10 4:58 PM (#205582 - in reply to #205576)
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Martin is right. Ths serial# should have a letter prefix ex. N OR Z with six numbers.If it's an american made model. I would just pass on this one.
F.Bailey
P.S. a 72 model starts with S2XXXXX
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balladeerman
Posted 2003-08-10 5:20 PM (#205583 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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thanks everyone, u saved my skin. suppose it is sounds to good to be true than it is. £200 for a '72 tele!

i any does have a tele US made, i'm looking for one. looking for a '52 reissue; my top preference. but i'll take a look at any.
if ur interested in trading i got some nice ovations.

thanks again friends.
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grrroovedude
Posted 2003-08-11 2:52 AM (#205584 - in reply to #205576)
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No need to thank twice :-)

Martin
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balladeerman
Posted 2003-08-11 11:22 AM (#205585 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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you can never thank thank enugh lol!

here sum photos of the guitar in Q

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/gallery/balladeerman_top.jpg

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/gallery/balladeerman_back.jpg

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/gallery/balladeerman_head.jpg
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-08-11 11:45 AM (#205586 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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If he's trying to pass off a Squier as a USA guitar he's certainly gone to some trouble. It's genuine, but it's later than '72
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balladeerman
Posted 2003-08-11 11:47 AM (#205587 - in reply to #205576)
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u think its a real one then, his price is only £200 thats what i'm worried abt
:(
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-08-11 12:13 PM (#205588 - in reply to #205576)
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Think about it, would you go to that much effort for 2 hundred quid? Is that the actual price he's asking or the starting bid in an auction?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-08-11 12:18 PM (#205589 - in reply to #205576)
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The guitar is genuine, but you were right to be cautious as there is definately something very wrong here. I just took a look at the web address www.brusabass.com on the photos & the Tele is right there, it's a '77 owned by an American bass player, not someone in Indonesia, and it certainly doesn't appear to be for sale.

http://www.brusabass.com/gear_77tele.html

You'd think a good scam artist would have spotted that web address on the pics. Hey Moody, need a partner?
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balladeerman
Posted 2003-08-11 12:51 PM (#205590 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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Thanks for checking it out for me Paul T. he's the student of the school an is seeling it for his boss i'm assuming, thats who the payment going to. £200 altogether. he want s £100, then he'll send it. If i'm happy i send another hundred. he's in tour in bali at moment. all through western union. bit if a hassle having to go to an outlet. i think i'm gona go for for, seems to be all legit. As u can read in the other replies its got 2 extra number s/n doesnt it (?) which is the only worryin me but i'll see when it gets here. he's paying postage an my import fees which made me a bit more cautious.
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balladeerman
Posted 2003-08-11 1:07 PM (#205591 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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on second thought this cud just be a major scam. All the phots he sent me have been lifted off the site. the guys not that good at eglish either an the payment going to some foreigh guy.

i've email brussbass.com an asked them if it's for sale.
C what there reply is i guess.
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an4340
Posted 2003-08-11 1:08 PM (#205592 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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I own a tele copy, and if that's a copy it's real good! It may be real fender but a recent fender tribute to a 70's model. Worth about 700 USD. I can't say for sure. But as they say, the provenence of this thing is dubious. The body looks in too good a condition. Mine has dents, dings divets, sans, original papers, lost in the mists of time. I'd ask the seller about what the body construction, what kind of wood, and to fax you the documentation that came with the guitar, it's in the picture afterall!
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balladeerman
Posted 2003-08-11 1:11 PM (#205593 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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i asked him to send a more detailed shot of the documentation and the serial no. but he kept avoiding it just asking if i wsa interested. its all a scam. i saw the guitar on ebay but his account was supended a cuple of days into the auction. if any1 knows o a contact no. in the uk 4ebay i cud find out why it was supended..
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-08-11 1:52 PM (#205594 - in reply to #205576)
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Of course it's a scam, late 70's Tele's are fetching a grand & above in the UK (god only knows why) and the owner of this instrument obviously knows what he has& has a had lot of work done on it. He's would know it's value. Something here stinks, I'd stay well away unless you can talk directly to the owner. Shouldn't be difficult via his website, the address is on the pics, shoot him an email & ask if he knows someone is offering his Tele for sale. Someone has copied the pics fron the guys site to use on a bogus auction
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an4340
Posted 2003-08-11 2:32 PM (#205595 - in reply to #205576)
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Balladeerman,
In the US you can get a brand new telecaster for $750-850, that's an american made copy of the classic 1950's tele. They play great. And while I love the tele, I think, after lurking this site, if I ever get another solid body, it'll be a Hamer. I loved cheap trick in college.
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BruDeV
Posted 2003-08-11 3:04 PM (#205596 - in reply to #205576)
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Some things I noticed:
1) the rear picture appears to be of an all maple neck guitar
2) the control plate does not properly meet the pickguard
3) the fretboard overlaps the pickguard
4) there's a cutout in the pickguard under the fretboard overhang
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balladeerman
Posted 2003-08-11 5:17 PM (#205597 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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well guys i got a reply from the original owner telling me that he aint selling that lovely tele. he had no idea what i was talking abt.

i sent him all the info on the guy so hopefully someone 'll sort the little prick out.

unlikely, but this has taught me one thing..........try to avoid dealing with anyone in Indonesia and a user named 'Ryan Killick54'. Watch out people he or she for thst matter may have many names an many faces.................................................... :(
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-08-11 6:28 PM (#205598 - in reply to #205576)
Subject: Re: 13013772 serial no.?


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Originally posted by BruDev:
Some things I noticed:
1) the rear picture appears to be of an all maple neck guitar
2) the control plate does not properly meet the pickguard
3) the fretboard overlaps the pickguard
4) there's a cutout in the pickguard under the fretboard overhang


I see what you mean about the neck, but the fingerboards on late 70's fenders were very thin, almost a veneer, the side dots were inlaid mostly in the maple, the pic is misleading. There isn't a fretboard overlap, there are 21 frets on the neck not 22, it's just
the angle of the pic. Points 2 & 4 are common to Fenders of the era, point 2 is down to typicaly sloppy assembly. Point 4, the cutout you refer to, is access to the neck-rod nut and found on many Fenders with rod adjustment at the body. Take a look at the guy's website, the guitar is legit except that in this case the asshole offering it for sale doesn't actually own it.
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balladeerman
Posted 2003-08-12 2:24 PM (#205599 - in reply to #205576)
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the F.B.I have been notified by the original owner of the guitar, but like in most cases not much can be done. Althougn the little prick did give me his phone number which i kindly passed on to the owner.
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