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Wall hangers vs keeping it in the case
Mitchrx
Posted 2008-10-24 3:23 PM (#15037)
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After my 1537 had the bridge pop off, I've kept all of my Ovations snug in their cases instead of on the wall. I then used the wall hangers for electrics only. This morning I go downstairs and find my Peavey T-60 on the floor. It's somewhat of a heavy guitar and the solid oak wood part of the hanger just split down the middle letting loose the support arm. At first all looked OK, these guitars are as tough as they come. Closer inspection revealed that the neck cracked. T-60's have two-piece necks and the crack is only through one half, but going up under the nut. I didn't have the time to examine it further, but it looks stable and fixable.

I like having guitars out in the open where you can just grab and play, but this really has me re-evaluating things.

So, a word to the wise. The best place to keep a guitar is in the case. Live and learn. I'm sure Moody will agree.
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kotadawg
Posted 2008-10-24 3:25 PM (#15038 - in reply to #15037)
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I love wall hangers. That's how I got my FD14.
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-24 3:27 PM (#15039 - in reply to #15037)
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With the people in my house, I'd be nuts to leave out my gits. When I was single, not a problem, but now ... no way.
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Beal
Posted 2008-10-24 3:36 PM (#15040 - in reply to #15037)
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I only have about 10-15 out at any one time but secured on Herculese hangers. All the rest are safe in cases.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-10-24 3:43 PM (#15041 - in reply to #15037)
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I have 7 cases stuffed in a 4 x 6 closet which requires an unmanly little dance to get one out.
If I kept my guitars in there I'd never play them.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-10-24 3:44 PM (#15042 - in reply to #15037)
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I have four guitar stands which usually have four guitars in them...
No where near as far to fall.
Plus I live alone.
No Dogs, Cats, Rug-Rats, Teenagers or Drunk Friends.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-24 3:48 PM (#15043 - in reply to #15037)
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All of them are out on wall hangers, except the 2 electrics that are on stands. All string swing hangers except for 3 12 fretters on Hercules, because they are angled to fit in a smaller space. All the hangers are mounted into a mahogany board, mounted into the studs of the wall. I know I wouldn't play them as much if they were in cases and they wouldn't get the controlled humidity that I have in the room. I don't have kids or anyone else for that matter that ever go downstairs to the mancave.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-10-24 3:50 PM (#15044 - in reply to #15037)
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Except for the cat that pees in cases...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-24 4:00 PM (#15045 - in reply to #15037)
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The cat is not allowed in the basement anymore, unless you come to visit again.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-24 4:06 PM (#15046 - in reply to #15037)
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You should see my place. Guitars everywhere. They're all out (except the 1778LX which has the holes plugged and is in the case ready to play out at a moment's notice).

And they almost all get played and very regularly. At least one of em every day.

I just have the one 17yo here now, and he's finally come to respect instruments, so I think we're good. I check the hangers regularly and pull on 'em to see if there's stress stuff or things loosening.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-10-24 4:07 PM (#15047 - in reply to #15037)
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I only use metal hangers these days because they don't split. However, there may be a few wood blocks here and there so thanks for the warning. An inspection over the weekend is in order. Did you keep the room humidified, or maybe that's not a problem in NY?
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-24 4:09 PM (#15048 - in reply to #15037)
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Hey Mitch, you gonna approach Chip about that neck? He might be able to take care of that for ya.
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-10-24 4:12 PM (#15049 - in reply to #15037)
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I like'em out where I can see'em and grab'em.
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ozwatto
Posted 2008-10-24 4:57 PM (#15050 - in reply to #15037)
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I keep mine in the cases all the time. I've got two kids (11 & 13) and even though they respect the instruments they don't always think about them during wrestling bouts and various ball games.

I'm also right across the road from the ocean and we get a lot of salt in the air here so I feel much more comfortable having them safe and snug in their beds.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-10-24 5:01 PM (#15051 - in reply to #15037)
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Originally posted by Slipkid:
I like'em out where I can see'em and grab'em.
...and once again Brad is a victim of his own enthusiasm.
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schroeder
Posted 2008-10-24 5:03 PM (#15052 - in reply to #15037)
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Cases, every time.
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Mitchrx
Posted 2008-10-24 5:13 PM (#15053 - in reply to #15037)
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Originally posted by Damon67:
Hey Mitch, you gonna approach Chip about that neck? He might be able to take care of that for ya.
Now that you mention it, that might be the best way to get it fixed.

For those who don't know about T-60's, they were designed by Chip Todd. He no longer works for Peavey but has his on shop down in Texas. He's an especially talented electric guitar luthier.

Thanks for the advice Damon.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-10-24 8:07 PM (#15054 - in reply to #15037)
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Got 10 hanging 3 on stands and 8 in cases.

The ones in the cases never get played and will most likely be sold sometime in the near future.
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Oddball
Posted 2008-10-24 9:49 PM (#15055 - in reply to #15037)
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Mine all go back in cases. I'm also in an environment where they would suffer if left out. Plus all guitars left out on stands or hangars — in my experience anyway — are much more prone to suffering finish checks or cracks, not to mention that they get really dirty.

I remember those old Peavey axes. Nice looking but it was like having an anvil around your neck. I'm surprised it didn't just rip the hangar right out of the wall.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-10-24 10:04 PM (#15056 - in reply to #15037)
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I really like having guitars out on stands or hangars. The Preacher has a pillow under it in case the hangar lets loose, but it is a Hercules so it should be secure. All the hangars are secured into studs, not just into the wallboard.

When a guitar goes out to a show or to a friend's hose, it is always in a case unless it is being played. I worry about people, kids, and animals more than I worry about the hangars breaking.
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-10-24 10:13 PM (#15057 - in reply to #15037)
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Rule of thumb: never own a guitar you wouldn't be afraid to break over a drunks head.

Thus, my collection. I especially appreciate the new solid metal-body Johnson reso.....

(my sig doesn't mention the Strat and P-bass copy, those are weapons ....and I'd really like a Tele w/ quick release strap. But I'll wait for the perfect Viper.)
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-24 11:36 PM (#15058 - in reply to #15037)
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Phil, if you're beefy enough to wield it, there's no better musical weapon than a T-60.

Well, maybe a T-40
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marenostrum
Posted 2008-10-25 6:43 AM (#15059 - in reply to #15037)
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No music room. A cat and a dog always sticking around ..... All of my guitars are in cases. Safe and enviramental friendly :)
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2008-10-25 6:52 AM (#15060 - in reply to #15037)
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Cases, all the time; most of you know that Gertrude (1111-4) has an extra bridge-to-purfling "sound vent" that was the result of an overly-enthusiastic wrestling match. Since 4 of the 5 Ovations are vintage, and my Guild classical almost an antique, I just don't take any chances anymore.

--Karen
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worshipleader
Posted 2008-10-27 3:38 PM (#15061 - in reply to #15037)
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3 on wall hangers for wall candy (the Twins and the Custom Legend) and two on Hercules floor stands to grab easy and do some strummin' (right now it is the '05 Collector's and the 2080, but they rotate frequrntly). 'Cept for the 2080, all of 'em need to breathe and vibrate, and if I leave them in the cases, they don't get enough exercise... kinda like me :D
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Auriemma
Posted 2008-10-27 3:51 PM (#15062 - in reply to #15037)
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Wall hangars? Leaving them exposed to God knows what and who? Why take the chance of your babies falling to their deaths?

My choice: Cases. If you drop a cased guitar, you only wince half as hard.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-27 4:19 PM (#15063 - in reply to #15037)
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I'll venture a guess that there have been 10 times as many accidents taking guitars out of cases than there have been with guitars falling off hangers. Probably about the same with stands vs. hangers. Personally, I have one that was knocked off a stand and one that looks like a case lid fell on it. None with hanger dings.
I can't imagine there are any statistics on this, so my guess is as good as any. But my reason for stands and hangers is simple. The humidifier works way better and with lots less hassle if all of them are hanging in the same room. The most common damage to any of my guitars is finish cracks. As far as I know, all those occurred while the guitars were stored in cases by the prior owners.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-10-27 4:58 PM (#15064 - in reply to #15037)
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Mark, I agree 100%.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-10-27 5:35 PM (#15065 - in reply to #15037)
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Safer or not, I just like looking at them so they're staying on the walls.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-27 5:36 PM (#15066 - in reply to #15037)
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That's funny. I only agree with you (Stephen) 90% of the time. (I'd confess where I learned to make up statistics, but we're not allowed to talk politics here.)
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-10-27 6:07 PM (#15067 - in reply to #15037)
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Most of mine are on hangers. Yeah, there's probably higher chance of damage. But there's also higher chance of getting played.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2008-10-27 6:46 PM (#15068 - in reply to #15037)
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Both of mine are in cases behind the couch so it's not like I have to dig them out of anywhere to to play them.

Been playing over 40 years and I've always put my guitars back in their cases when I'm done with them.

I like looking at them and all that but I don't need to see them to get inspired about playing - usually I just get the idea that I want to play for a bit and that's it - never experienced any sort of correlation between looking at a guitar and deciding to play it.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-27 7:10 PM (#15069 - in reply to #15037)
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Originally posted by Joe Rotax:
I just get the idea that I want to play for a bit and that's it -
I guess I "get the idea" more when they're staring me in the face. I've turned the TV off so many times after looking at a guitar hanging there.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2008-10-27 7:23 PM (#15070 - in reply to #15037)
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I rarely turn the TV on ever..lol

But yeah, whatever works.
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Posted 2008-10-27 7:42 PM (#15071 - in reply to #15037)
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-10-27 8:14 PM (#15072 - in reply to #15037)
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At one time I put all of them in cases except for one, and played it exclusively. When I pulled the other ones out one at a time, it was like Christmas seeing them all again. Now they all hang on the wall and look spectacular, if I do say so myself. Upside is, you can see the condition of them with no surprises as when they are pulled out of the case after a long storage, and unless you're stoned all the time, there is little chance of damage as long as you keep them in a controlled environment. The only downside is the fact that they take up twice the room being out of the case. A guitar seen is a guitar played.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-10-27 9:01 PM (#15073 - in reply to #15037)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Most of mine are on hangers. Yeah, there's probably higher chance of damage. But there's also higher chance of getting played.
+1 I'm with you Dave.
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Steve A
Posted 2008-10-28 12:40 PM (#15074 - in reply to #15037)
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In cases all the time. The kids are 26, 23 and 20. When they were young the worry was accidents. I always thought that when they grew up I could have them out but, now with 4 grandchildren over all the time I think it will remain cases forever. It has done well by me though, my 1978 Guild D-25M is in amazing shape with only a couple of minor dings, no finish cracks whatsoever.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-28 1:17 PM (#15075 - in reply to #15037)
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All depends on your personal situation.

Looking back, when I had little ones and pets, they were in cases.

Now I have neither.
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Dale Lutes
Posted 2008-10-28 1:30 PM (#15076 - in reply to #15037)
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Now that I'm single again, I have a dedicated music room in the basement. I'm not worried about natural disasters like flooding, but I've dealt with broken water pipes and a flaky water heater in the past. So I have six on hangers and one on a stand.

I've also found that I'm more inclined to play now that I have them out and accessible.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-28 2:23 PM (#15077 - in reply to #15037)
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When I only had one guitar I decided to keep it out next to the piano in the living room, thinking I'd play it if it wasn't under the bed or in the closet in a case. I didn't use it any more than I had when it was in the case. When my youngest was probably 10, she was showing it to a friend and dropped it, breaking the rosette. That might not have happened if it was in a case. Of course, she broke the grandfather clock trying to see inside the back, so the guitar might not have been safe anywhere.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-10-28 2:35 PM (#15078 - in reply to #15037)
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On hangers. I try to play each of my guitars at least once a week to keep the mojo in the tops, and taking all of them out of their cases and back in would be a royal PITA. Besides, they're art I think people should be able to admire. Especially me. Of course, here in California I don't really have to worry so much about climate control and all the challenges that go along with that. I'm a player, not a collector so keeping guitars under the bed is not for me.
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ignimbyte
Posted 2008-11-02 3:32 AM (#15079 - in reply to #15037)
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I never used wall hangers in my home, though I'd been told that using it helps keep the neck stay straight (??)

In the summer months, I may allow one or a couple of guitars to stay on a stand from time to time. Otherwise, they stay in either their respective cases or gig bags when they're not in use.
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wilblee
Posted 2008-11-02 5:29 AM (#15080 - in reply to #15037)
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I keep 'em all on hangers. I like having 'em accessable, and I'm down with the climate control thing, too, but mainly I like the way all my friends go "Oooooo" when they walk into the studio. :cool:
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-11-02 10:23 AM (#15081 - in reply to #15037)
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Originally posted by Mitchrx:
After my 1537 had the bridge pop off, I've kept all of my Ovations snug in their cases instead of on the wall. I then used the wall hangers for electrics only. This morning I go downstairs and find my Peavey T-60 on the floor. It's somewhat of a heavy guitar and the solid oak wood part of the hanger just split down the middle letting loose the support arm. At first all looked OK, these guitars are as tough as they come. Closer inspection revealed that the neck cracked. T-60's have two-piece necks and the crack is only through one half, but going up under the nut. I didn't have the time to examine it further, but it looks stable and fixable.

I like having guitars out in the open where you can just grab and play, but this really has me re-evaluating things.

So, a word to the wise. The best place to keep a guitar is in the case. Live and learn. I'm sure Moody will agree.
How did the bridge on a 1537 pop -off ???

The bridge on my 1537 is bolted down with two bolts...original factory..

Once my J -9 slimline Jazz -box tumbled down from it`s hanger , on top of my dreadnought..long scratch at the back of the J -9 , I re -did the hanger`s fastening , no probs. since then.

Some guitars in cases , some on the wall , some on stands , one in my hands :)

Mark made a point , once my ZEPEDA in it`s case , tripped over , and had severe fret -buzz , turned out that the big E had pushed into the bone -nut , a piece of Felt tucked in between nut / string solved the problem , I will replace the nut , " in the fullness of time " , but it shows , a git in the box is no guarantee for safety... :rolleyes:

Vic
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-11-02 3:36 PM (#15082 - in reply to #15037)
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I'm in the "a guitar seen is a guitar played" school. Mine sits on a stand in my study (ain't she purdy) and when the brain goes hazy from studying, I give the guitar a 10 minute fang and then it goes back on the stand.

No little kids around, one small dog who seems to understand how much his life is worth and I have insurance!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-11-02 4:49 PM (#15083 - in reply to #15037)
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I don't have a guitar in a case at home. All are out either on the wall or on stands. Dogs and kids have never done any damage to them. If they weren't out, they wouldn't get played and like Bobbo, I play every one every week.....
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