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Joined: October 2003 Posts: 1
Location: Puget Sound | Did/does ovation ever make Balladeer priced version the Folklore?
I'm considering getting a 12 string and only using 6 strings but I know it'll look a little funky.
It seems like a cheaper wide neck guitar would be a good idea. What did Adrian Legg used to play? :eek: |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750
Location: Scotland | If you prefer a wider neck the old-style 12-fret non-cutaway USA Folklores crop up regularly on ebay for sensible money. There isn't an entry-level USA guitar with a wide neck. The only wide-neck import is a 14-fret cutaway nylon-string.
Using a 12-string isn't a great idea. Generally 12-strings are built heavier & using only 6 strings will not drive the top sufficiently to produce good acoustic tone and volume.
Adrian Legg played Adamas until recently, not sure if they were wide or standard neck widths, a couple of them appear to be the wider version. Live he's been using a vaguely Breadwinner shaped solidbody acoustic and on his latest album he's switched to using a couple of handmade Brit parlour guitars by a company called Brook. |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | I play "fingerstyle" and have 2 Balladeers (12 & 6)...
I started back in Junior High playing Classical (Andres Segovia stuff) and used a 'wide neck" guitar. I later switched to "Scruggs Style" banjo 3-finger picking which is now my main style...
I have average to small hands and have found that the "wide" necks are just too big for me to handle comfortably.. I can't stretch as many frets and always seem to miss some strings on chord changes...
The smaller necks work best for me, even though I finger pick...
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 Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6202
Location: Phoenix AZ | Tim,
You migrated from Segovia classical to Scruggs banjo? Now THAT'S impressive.
As far as neck width, I find the 1-3/4 neck to be perfect for me. It's slightly narrower than the Folklore (1-7/8) and slightly wider than a standard 6 string (1-11/16).
Dave |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | Dave,
Not as impressive as it may sound... actually it's just easier! Only 3 fingers to keep track of instead of 4!
I find that the "banjo" touch applied to a guitar is magical (listen to Ron Block of Alison Krause/Union Station)...
Even when I played my "Allman Bros" on my old Les Paul, I finger picked (with fingernails) and a National thumbpick... kept wearing out my fingernails though! NOW, I've found Alaska Piks! wowie! no more torn/worn nails and the same sound/style!
tim |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15678
Location: SoCal | A lot of what Lindsey Buckingham plays, he plays using banjo rolls. Jerry Reed's the same at times. Almost all of Jerry's Breakdown is banjo rolls. |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | Well now, perhaps I'm not quite as odd as I first thought..... nah!
tim |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Nah, you're not.
That's pretty much how I fingerpick as well.
When I first decided to learn guitar I was a kid working at ToysRUs. There was a book in the Book Section called "Beginning Folk Guitar" (book was $1.96 - I still have it!). The book taught that rolling style of fingerpicking and I learned that before I had even developed a style of strumming. |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | Sounds like "Puff The Magic Dragon" to me! PP&M, CSN&Y Cat Stevens, James Taylor, Joe Walsh, Dicky Betts.... even some Carlos Santana.. all have a degree of the "banjo roll" technique... add that to tasteful/accent strums... sublime!
tim |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 1196
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | I started out on 5-string banjo before I played guitar. I can't tell you how much that helped me with my fingerpicking technique. I remember practicing banjo rolls over and over. I really enjoyed putting that to guitar. |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | One more thought....
Wasn't there a posting recently regarding the difference between scales and arpeggios? Aren't arpeggios just "fingerpick rolls" inside the chord structure in various combinations?
Isn't that how we play?
tim |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | . . . still rock & roll t'me. |
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