Truss rod covers
Legend-LX-Fan
Posted 2003-12-21 6:23 PM (#199091)
Subject: Truss rod covers


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With the new LX series having truss rod covers, I started thinking what various Ovation's look like with and without truss rod covers. What do you think? Do you like the way the Ovation headstocks looks with a truss rod cover? My favorite is my old Custom Legend with the carved truss rod cover. So yes are no to truss rod covers?
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Standingovation
Posted 2003-12-21 9:09 PM (#199092 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers



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I've installed truss rod covers on most of my headstocks which didn't have them. I think it looks so much more professional. Dave
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Tony Calman
Posted 2003-12-21 10:47 PM (#199093 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers



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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

When truss rod cover is carved walnut, signature such as GC, or the 2002 Collectors - great. When it appears as a piece of black plastic as on my 1763 Classic, I wonder why it couldn't be walnut to match the bridge or tinted to match the headstock. I look at the simplistic beauty of the 1763 with gold tuners and the 1st thing that jumps out is the black cover. Would a tinted cover with gold "Classic" have added that much cost? Makes me consider carving a wood replacement.

From previous posts, maybe Ovation should have the name CELEBRITY on that line's truss covers. If no truss rod, silkscreen.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2003-12-22 7:49 AM (#199094 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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I think a truss rod cover gives a guitar a classy look, especially if it states the model in an attractive manner, like the GC models did, or like Gibson Les Pauls do.

I see that the LX models are going to say "LX" on some of them at least....not sure if I like that yet. Absolutely NO WAY should Celebrity models have truss rod covers or silkscreen or ANYTHING....it should be a visual difference for the U.S.-made guitars. An easy way to show the upgrade.....

Roger

1976 Applause AA14-4 6-String
2001 Adamas 1598-MERB Melissa Etheridge 12-String
2003 Celebrity CC01 Spruce Top 6-String
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Jeff
Posted 2003-12-22 12:19 PM (#199095 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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I think truss rod covers--in general--give the headstock a more complete look and are much more pleasing to my eye than the rather "plain" look of the headstocks that don't have one.

Jeff
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Tony Calman
Posted 2003-12-22 12:25 PM (#199096 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers



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Only reason I thought of the truss rod cover for Celeb was that unless you look at the sticker/label, a lot of confusion as the headstock says Ovation. If the cover said Celebrity it would separate the two lines. I don't know but there is confusion as to the lines.

Just bought a 12-str slothead GC...with the GC rod cover...the signature tells everyone what model it is and that it is up there in the model line. Also, as the guitar is dark sunburst, the cover blends with the finish rather than a contrast with the finish. My Classic with a light headstock, the black cover is a distraction from the wood/finish and gold tuners.
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zorjon
Posted 2003-12-22 1:08 PM (#199097 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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Congrats on the GC.

I completely agree that the Truss Rod Cover adds to the look of the guitar. Decorative or not, it gives it a complete look.

I have Slotheads with covers and Eiite w/o and I personally like the truss cover look.

Everyone has an opinion, so for what it's worth.

John
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seesquare
Posted 2003-12-22 1:41 PM (#199098 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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So, there could be a "cottage industry" in making trussrod covers, eh?
Monograms, flowers, pets, and other perversity included?
Aesthetics versus functionality may be the issue. When some gyro takes off his trussrod cover, and no device presents itself, does he immediately ship it to the factory for repair?
While we are on the subject of functionality and practicality, this might be a great place for attaching your cellular phone holster, or, even better, your .45 Casull. Whaddya think, Guys?
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Tony Calman
Posted 2003-12-22 1:58 PM (#199099 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers



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from Seesquare's post: "...or, even better, your .45 Casull."

maybe we could call that line Soprano after the cable show...

I will replace the Classic black cover with a walnut, keeping the original in case I ever sell...the headstocks w/o a cover will remain w/o.
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Jeff
Posted 2003-12-22 3:07 PM (#199100 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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Congratulations on your Glen Campbell 12-String!

When I got my GC 12-string, the original signature cover had been replaced with one that had the name "Fernando" engraved on it. :eek:

Fortunately, I had an extra GC rod cover at the time, but I guess it goes to show that even a truss rod cover can't difinitively identify a guitar...LOL! ;)

Jeff
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-12-22 3:29 PM (#199101 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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My GC 12 string is from 1969. The truss rod cover is blank, but Glen's signature is silk screened onto the head of the guitar above the truss rod cover and between the tuners. I suspect that this was just before Ovation went to the signed truss rod covers on the GC 12's.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2003-12-22 3:49 PM (#199102 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers



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"silk screened onto the head of the guitar above the truss rod cover"

Paul, hadn't noticed it before - went back to check out the picture...I am impressed. Looks like the guys at Ovation did a nice job.
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Beal
Posted 2003-12-22 3:58 PM (#199103 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers



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The imports should say Celebicy and the USA should say Honda.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-12-22 5:28 PM (#199104 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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Why Honda ?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-12-22 6:00 PM (#199105 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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Too much golf and scotch.
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playadamas
Posted 2003-12-22 7:39 PM (#199106 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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I must be one of the minority on this. I look at my O's and A's and M's on the wall right now and none of them have truss rod covers! It's clean and nice. As much as I love the carved TR cover on the CL and GC nylon proto, they feel like add-on's instead of an integral part.
By the way, my 1119 has the cover but my 1619 doesn't, are they all like that?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-12-22 8:28 PM (#199107 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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Michael:

All I can think of is that the acoustic electric Custom Legend is newer than the straigh acoustic one, and has a Kaman bar. By the way, thanks and I'll call you in the next day or so.

I think that all the guitars look good. Everybody has their hot spots on what they think looks right with their guitars. For me, it's always been gold tuners. I keep debating with myself about putting gold tuners on my 68 Deluxe Balladeer, but the chrome Grovers on it work perfectly. What a problem it is....
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Tony Calman
Posted 2003-12-22 10:28 PM (#199108 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers



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For the Custom Legend #1619 6-str, not sure of the exact year but my 1982 doesn't have one, there is the carved walnut cover on the 1978-1979 #1619 that Paul Hebert has. Both are a/e. The #1158 CL 12-string (acoustic) that I bought in 1980 had one.
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Nils
Posted 2003-12-22 10:38 PM (#199109 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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I'm with Michael on the truss rod covers. Neither of my O's have a truss rod cover & I like 'em that way. If they had a reason for a cover fine, but I personally wouldn't add one to my guitars just for looks. I rather like the smooth look, it matches the tops of the guitars- no knobs, no visible pickups, no pick guard. Rocks you bones plugged in. I like that.

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-12-22 10:59 PM (#199110 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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The Kaman bar was phased in in the early 1980's, eliminating the need for a truss rod cover.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2003-12-22 11:25 PM (#199111 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers



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Just curious...why would a 1988 #1763 Classic nylon string slothead have a truss rod cover?

Seems a little unusual as it is nylon string and 12-fret to the bowl (however, cutaway.)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-12-22 11:34 PM (#199112 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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I would guess that the nylon strings have truss rods becuase shit happens. A neck could need adjustment due to weather, or other factors, not just due to string tension. It speaks well of Ovation that they would put in a tenion rod where others would save the money.
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richardd
Posted 2003-12-23 6:51 AM (#199113 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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Neither my 96' Custom Legend or 02' 1687 Adamas have a truss rod cover, I'm happy !

If they did I wouldn't care either.

I can't believe this is an issue at all !
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alpep
Posted 2003-12-23 7:22 AM (#199114 - in reply to #199091)
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they don't have covers because they don't need them..

I think I will put traction bars on my kia to help it hug the road....WRONG
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Beal
Posted 2003-12-23 7:30 AM (#199115 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers



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Doesn't Honda have 2 or 3 models called LX? The Oddessey LX, Inacurate LX, Qualude LX. Maybe it's not Honda but one ofd the other J cars, you know they all look alike.
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alpep
Posted 2003-12-23 7:41 AM (#199116 - in reply to #199091)
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http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?xpufu=x&newu=1&krd=1&satitle=Lx&sasaleclass=0
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-12-23 9:20 AM (#199117 - in reply to #199091)
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I'm not certain, but I think I took, uh, I mean, owned a Qualude LX once. Maybe twice. Much better than the standard model.
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Beal
Posted 2003-12-23 10:00 AM (#199118 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers



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12 fret necks NEVER had Kbars. That's why they have rod covers
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Standingovation
Posted 2003-12-23 11:01 AM (#199119 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers



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Is the reason that the 12 fret necks never had kbars due to the fact that they are 12 fret necks or because they are slotheads? I'm curious because the factory is currently building me a custom 14 fret slothead neck. The original adamas slotheads had 14 fret necks but I thought they also had TR covers (actually a wood strip that screws on from the back of the headstock). Dave
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-12-23 12:17 PM (#199120 - in reply to #199091)
Subject: Re: Truss rod covers


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Ok... I get it.. YOu said Honda, I thought motorcycle and they are made in the USA (don't know about the cars)... so I didn't get it.

But yes... LX seems to be the tag d'jure for anything new.
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