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Location: Phoenix AZ | Nice 12 string slot head shiny bowl on ebay. Bridge had been replaced with a pin bridge.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2368350902&category=33029
I own two shiny bowl 12's (one small hole and one standard) and I can tell you that these are about the best sounding 12's you'll ever hear.
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Location: Miami, FL | Thanks for the testimonial on the sound of these early slotheads.
How does the bidge replacement affect the value of this guitar? Did Ovations ever come with this style of bridge?
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Location: SoCal | Ovation never had a bridge like that. If I was buying this guitar, the first thing I would do is ship it to Ovation and have them put the proper bridge on it as well as check it for the need for a neck reset, and check the top to make certain it's sound. |
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Location: Scotland | I think the bridge conversion is highly suspect. Pinned bridges need a hardwood bridgeplate inside the guitar to stop the ball-ends chewing into the softer spruce top. The fan-bracing used on these guitars would not allow a bridgeplate to be installed. Without getting a mirror inside my own guitar & checking, I'd say it's also possible that the pin-holes could be going right through braces. I'd leave this alone unless you are prepared to do as PM suggests & have the correct pinless bridge installed. |
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Location: NJ | I agree with Paul.
skip this one. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | One more on the pile, I agree too, next..... |
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Location: Miami, FL | Well, it sounds as though it is unanimous.
I will stop watching that one, and let it go. |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | Again shows the value of this board, never would have thought about the consequences of an added pin bridge.
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Location: SoCal | Interesting statement by seller: "...because most of the first Ovations had to have the bridge filed down therefor pins had to be added to hold the strings tighter."
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On Dec-26-03 at 10:04:18 PST, seller added the following information:
I have received several e-mails telling me that this guitar was made between Nov. 1968 and Feb. 1969. I can't confirm this but several have said it is true. I was also told that the bridge is not original because most of the first Ovations had to have the bridge filed down therefor pins had to be added to hold the strings tighter. This did not hurt the sound of these guitars any. These are things that I was told by e-bayers that collect These guitars. I just wanted to pass it on to you because I want it to be described as best as possible. I am always thankful for this information from people that are more knowledgeable about this than I. |
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Location: SoCal | Some seller is full of something. |
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Location: Scotland | Whoever did the job on the bridge had no concept of the construction of these guitars. Many early Ovations have neck-set problems, but so do Martins, Gibsons, Guilds or whatever from the same era. Installing a pinned-bridge does not cure neck-set problems, nor is a pinned-bridge any more or less secure than a pinless bridge. It's a dog, leave it. |
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Location: SoCal | I just got done changing the strings on a neighbor's new Yamaha ($150 at Costco). Bridge pins are a pain in the ass. And 12 of them..... |
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12 String Slothead Shiny Bowl