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Location: Just outside Dallas, TX | OK... After being the Tab dude... I decided to pose a Challenge to you all
I have placed 5 Peppino D'Agostino tunes on my web site... Here ... In order of difficulty
Born in the Sea
A Glimpse of Times Past
Close to Heaven
Desert Flower
Mother's Tears
The Challenge is - Work on them and record yourself... I'll post the recordings and we can all vote on who played the best!!
Come on I dare ya (and if you are like me... a Dare is all it takes :rolleyes: ) |
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Location: Utah | All I'm getting is "page not found" when I click on the links. |
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Location: Just outside Dallas, TX | Still Loading the Files... Sorry |
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Location: Just outside Dallas, TX | All there now... It seems I zapped a LARGE folder before and it was putting all those files back...
Also PLEASE note on Desert Flower... the 1st several Measures are LEFT HAND ONLY... you Pluck the string with finger on left hand and then Hammer on the note!!!!
Examples are at Old Playing and Recordings I'll even re-do my recordings as it aint fair to use older stuff when I was playing more frequently ;) |
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Location: Tennessee | You forgot to post which year you would like us to have these worked out by. ;) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I'm still working on your tab for "It Doesn't Have to Be This Way". I'm still on the first page. I'm not sure I could figure these out in a year. Besides, I listened to Peppino on his website and I couldn't understand a word he was saying. |
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Location: Just outside Dallas, TX | Cause he's Italian maybe...
Born in the Sea with dedicated practice is doable in a week |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | If you tell me that "It Doesn't..." is doable in a week with dedicated practice, that will give me a frame of reference. Sort of like when the ski shop employee told me they considered an intermediate skier to be someone who skis 50 days a year or more. |
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Location: GA USA | Here's a wrinkle. Play them all with four chords or less. |
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Location: Just outside Dallas, TX | You'll find with Croce... 1st practice moving between the chord shapes so your left hand knows where to go...
Then add the right picking...
Depending on how often you play and how quickly you can change chords (been playing 33+ years) a week playing an hour each day building on what you did the last day should get you to a passable likeness of the song
Personally I prefer Photographs and Memories (only because of the interesting G chord shapes and pull offs) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Thanks. I've been playing for over 33 years, too, but for about 25 of them I may not have practiced an hour a year. An hour a day is more than I usually can muster now, but it picks up a bit in the winter. I'm not satisfied with a "passable likeness", so I'll drone away on it for months, with numerous breaks for various distractions. I think I do a more than passable P&M. Seems like that was one of the easiest for me to learn, maybe because I did it off the Huttlinger dvd. Hard Way Every Time might be the easiest out there. Figured out the intro and then just watched the Croce dvd. He recorded it with a capo, but did it live without a capo. |
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Location: Just outside Dallas, TX | So has ANYBODY taken up the Challenge? |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Gee, never heard of Peppino. Does he play an ovation? |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I'm giving it a go. I'm working on "Born In the Sea". It's the only one in standard tuning. I also tuned one of my guitars to Gm for "A Glimpse of the Past". It's got a really cool sound.
I don't have a timeframe for finishing "Born.." but I think it's coming out nicely. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I'm still working on your "It Doesn't Have to Be This Way." Hey, I'm slow and there were too many close football games on this weekend. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I'll give "Born in the Sea" a chance.
So what is that in Italian, so my wife might get excited about it?
"Labour de Mer"? |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I have small hands and there are some challenging stretches in there - I'm working on a couple of compromises, since I can't stretch my fingers. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | BTW:
"I'm slow and there were too many close football games on this weekend".
I'm from Seattle, I'll have lots of time... |
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Location: Just outside Dallas, TX | Originally posted by an4340:
Gee, never heard of Peppino. Does he play an ovation? He is the premier Artist for Seagull (Godin)... the page at the beginning of the Thread has links to Songs he does... |
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Location: Omaha, NE | I'm planning on adding one or two of these, but my schedule is a little wazzed for the next few weeks. It'll be more like the first of the year before I can dig in. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Awesome thanks. I already have far too many pieces lined up that I have to learn but will add these to the list. Ta. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | I tell you what - if you can transcribe this I'll be very grateful....
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UBPWtng1dBA |
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Location: Chicago | OK, but let's trade: I'll learn one of yours if you learn one of my "covers":
1)Frevo Rasgado (Egberto Gismonti)
2)Fantasia Suite for Two Guitars (Di Meola)
3) Guardian Angel (McLaughlin)
I can post links and tabs, if you are interested! |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | My thoughts having listening to them (and converted the TAB to Guitar Pro)...
- Born in the Sea
Lovely, will be working on this, can pretty much play this as is just sight reading the TAB. Top tune.
- A Glimpse of Times Past
Never used this particular tuning so into the "to learn" pile it goes. Again a lovely piece, nice dischordance...
-Close to Heaven
Another tuning I've never used so into the "to learn" pile it goes.
- Desert Flower
I like to memorise all the pieces I learn, I think this falls into a slightly harder category for the simple reason it'll be harded to memorise but again --> "to learn".
- Mother's Tears
Same as Desert Flower, i.e. harder to memorise but will learn!
I would say the first three are all pretty easier and good for a beginner/intermediate fingerstyle guitarist. The last two require a little more attention but not impossible. Thanks again!!! Anymore to share? |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Originally posted by dobro:
OK, but let's trade: I'll learn one of yours if you learn one of my "covers":
1)Frevo Rasgado (Egberto Gismonti)
2)Fantasia Suite for Two Guitars (Di Meola)
3) Guardian Angel (McLaughlin)
I can post links and tabs, if you are interested! Yes please send TABs! |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | A Glimpse of Times Past is not accurate (at least the 4th bar isn't) see highlighted correction below...
This is more accurate...
Did you just download these "as is" from the web? |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | In fact the more I listen to it the more errors I can find - will amend... |
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Location: Just outside Dallas, TX | Tabbed by Peppino himself so????? I met him at a show in Va... he was nice enuff to give me the sheet music to several songs after he heard what I spent on one of his CDs from E-Bay (been out of circulation for 5+ years)... After he picked his jaw up from the floor....
Are you sure you hit the correct 1st string tuning?? I play my recording against his and can't hear the difference |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | If you listen to bar 4, the last note is a single note not a chord. Anyhow thanks these are really good and will enjoy playing them. |
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Location: Chicago | Hey Dweezil: Here is an OK tab for Fantasia . You can hear a clip of our version here . WARNING: the "Friday Night" version is inferior in most ways. We transcribed the first section of the suite from Di Meola's original Casino CD. If you are serious I can give you some details! |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | dobro, thanks. It's a little challenging for me at the moment but something to strive for. I |
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Location: Just outside Dallas, TX | I "could" have mis-transcribed... But I usually pay attention |
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"Unless I'm wrong, which, you know, I'm not..."
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Location: Chicago | How about "Guardian Angel" Dweez? It fits this thread better because it sorks as a SWEET fingerstyle exercise. Here is a TAB of the tune . And here is a nice YouTube demo of the introductory part done that way on a nylon. Try it! And if you have a jam buddy, have him take the lead and rock out on the 3/4 chord jam: Em - D - C7 - F- - -Am - G - C7 - B7 with that wicked lead line to kick it off. Here an early version of the Guitar Trio playing a a RIDICULOUSLY fast version. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | @ dobro, nice one!
Thanks. Those boys rock, I have a few of their albums and it's inspring stuff. Love it.
My fingerstyle is more in the tame world of Bruce Cockburn, Adrian Legg, Stefan Grossman, David Qualey, Doug Smith, Jim Goodin, Richard Gilewitz, Peppino D'Agostino, John Renbourn et al.
You can hear my first attempts at playing (and recording) some of this stuff here (really jusst early attempts)...
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Location: Chicago | That's a beautiful set of tunes, Dweezil. I especially liked the low-tuned groove of "Foxglove": You may be amused to know that I actually find some of the McLaughin chordal stuff EASIER to do finger-style than the psycho cross-picking he's cooked up.
BTW that walnut Elite is stunning. Never saw one like that, anywhere.... |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | dobro,
thanks!!!! As I said early attempts...
The pics of the walnut really don't it justice, it's a beauty!
Whislt the Walnut has made great friends with the 84C it still pines for it's true love : the 12 string. I would not be a very good father it I didn't find one of these for it...
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Location: Chicago | Curious question: how do your Elite's compare, sound-wise, to a similarly formatted Adamas? |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Not played that many Adamas, though want to change that! After a 1681 or similar...
The 1537 is well known to be the best wood top Ovation they made, kinda a wood topped Adamas if you like. IT'S A TONE MONSTER.
The Walnut is SSB and has a much darker tone. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | An update :
Born In The Sea. Can now play it flawlessly at performance speed. Lovely tune, pretty straight forward apart from a couple of tricky left hand fingerings required to play it correctly, i.e to let the strings ring out as he does. Will get round to recording it at some point. How is everyone else getting on?
Now on the the next one :) |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I can play "Born In The Sea" - not flawlessly yet - and usually too fast. I had to redo a few of the fingerings to accommodate my small fingers and there's still one or two that are pretty iffy. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Also the last note in the Born In The Sea tab is wrong, it's just not played! |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Yep - agreed.
I also noticed a couple of mistakes in the tab (at least to my untrained ears)- measures 30 and 31. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | I think those bars are correct.
Do you use Guitar Pro? |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Grab a more accurate TAB of Glimpse of Times Past here, I've corrected it, it's not 100% but FAR MORE accurate than the other one posted here
http://www.boiledsweets.com/tmp/glimpse.pdf
Also more accurate Born In The Sea here
http://www.boiledsweets.com/tmp/born.pdf |
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Location: Yarmouth, ME / Houston, TX | These are beautiful. I think I can work them out, but probably do not have the nerve to upload my renditions. But, I really appreciate the score and the MP3s. Again, they are beautiful! |
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Location: Just outside Dallas, TX | Heck I did... 2 Years old now... but out there to hear... www.resnets.com/sessions.htm |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Thanks for pointing these tunes out to me - great stuff, Born In The Sea in the bag and a day of Glimpse Of The Past and it's getting close. Want to play it as played by the man himself not as the transcription... |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Updated Glimpse again (section C was wrong!)
Grab from the above link. I still have not scored the tiny variations he plays during the da capo repeat but you can add these in as you see fit.
This is now a much better transcription. Any problems let me know and I'll update |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by DRK HRSE:
Born in the Sea with dedicated practice is doable in a week :eek:
Originally posted by dweezil:
I would say the first three are all pretty easy and good for a beginner/intermediate fingerstyle guitarist. :eek: :eek: |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Haven't tried the thrid one yet but I would tend to agree with Dark Horse |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Originally posted by muzza:
Originally posted by DRK HRSE:
Born in the Sea with dedicated practice is doable in a week :eek:
Originally posted by dweezil:
I would say the first three are all pretty easy and good for a beginner/intermediate fingerstyle guitarist. :eek: :eek:
I've been working on Born In The Sea since the challenge started and all I can say is that there are good days and bad. I have it memorized, which for me is usually as difficult as playing it. I'm very happy that I got this far with it. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Expanded Glimpse out to include the slight variations now!!!
Grab from the above link. It's pretty accurate now :) |
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Location: Just outside Dallas, TX | Dweez is right... They "SOUND" difficult... but look at the actual music... Glimpse is simple many Arpeggios... And Born in the Sea is a simple Pick pattern with rarely 2 strings played at the same time...
Thnks Dweezil... I try the updates when I can pull out the fiddle and the 4 Yo doesn't see (she tends to want to "PLAY" it like a percussion instrument whenever I have it... |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Born In The Sea - 100% mastered
Glimpse Of Times Past - 90% mastered
Now to start on the next one.
Once again, great tunes. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Here we go again, the transcription is not accurate  |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | The very first note! The timing is wrong!
You have it scored as a crotchet, it's more like a dotted minim tied to another minim (i.e. 5 beats not 1).
Seriously thanks for bringing these tunes to my attention but perhaps the challenge should have been correct these transcriptions and then record them ;) |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Here we go again. For those trying Glimpse the hardest section is this...
Finally scored it correctly now with suggesting fingering to make it easier for others, grab the corrected PDF from the link above. I think this is pretty much perfect now! |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Dweezil - any chance you can post the powertab version? |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | I use Guitar Pro, whilst it can import Power Tab it cannot export Power Tab, it can export as
Guitar Pro, MIDI, ASCII, MusicXML, PDF, WAV & BMP.
If Power Tab cannot import any of those then it's a case of typing it in from the PDF. |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I'll just type in the changes from the PDF.
Thanks. |
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Challenge!!!!!!!!!