recording my SMT & then some...
grrroovedude
Posted 2004-02-03 6:26 AM (#195920)
Subject: recording my SMT & then some...


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Hi,

Everything I ordered arrived in the past few weeks. My Behringer mixer w/ phantom power, my audiophile soundcard, so i've started recording my SMT. Very good sounds indeed, better than I expected. (I only played it acoustically so far).
I recorded directly (plugged in).

A question: I'll be in a 'real' studio with my band the next 2 weeks, what would be the best way to record my SMT? direct only? or mike it as well?

And another question: i'm considering the purchase of a microphone for singing. It has to be good for both rehearsal and (home) recording, but not too expensive as well. Would one of the Behringers (1800) do? Or would Shure be a better option? What should i look for in this microphone?

Martin
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alpep
Posted 2004-02-03 6:57 AM (#195921 - in reply to #195920)
Subject: Re: recording my SMT & then some...


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For mics I prefer neumann. Beyer also makes some great mics they are expensive but you get what you pay for.

When I recorded my Adamas 12 we took both the low Imp out and had a neuman tlm 103 aimed at the soundholes. I think we used a combo of both but mostly used the direct mix
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-02-03 10:16 AM (#195922 - in reply to #195920)
Subject: Re: recording my SMT & then some...


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Just my opinion, but I would never record with pickups only. I occasionally use the pickup in conjunction with mikes, but there isn't a pickup yet made that sounds as good as reasonable condenser mike.

If you're recording rhythm parts try using a pair of identical mikes 12-18inches in front of the guitar (either spaced or coincident)and play them back panned hard left & right. Never fails.

Al has expensive tastes, Neumann are fantastic but cost an arm & a leg (and a couple of kidneys)
Take a look at the Rode range.
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Norseman1
Posted 2004-02-03 10:37 AM (#195923 - in reply to #195920)
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Hey Al,
Unrelated post, but...Did the CD project ever reach completion? I would be interested in buying a copy if so.

Norse(would be fun to hear some of ya'll play)man1
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alpep
Posted 2004-02-03 10:38 AM (#195924 - in reply to #195920)
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Norse
contact miles
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Strummin12
Posted 2004-02-03 10:41 AM (#195925 - in reply to #195920)
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Paul T. and Miles suggested the Rode NT-2 when I was looking for a reasonably priced condensor mic for recording vocal and guitar. Aside from a minor problem, which was repaired free under warranty, I find the mic to be really fantastic. It cost me about $400.
-Johnny
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alpep
Posted 2004-02-03 11:06 AM (#195926 - in reply to #195920)
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why buy a volkswagen with a rolls royce grille. Get a neuman or beyer
or akg 414
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-02-03 11:30 AM (#195927 - in reply to #195920)
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I have 2 AKG 414's a couple of Rode NT3's & a new Rode stereo NT4. While I prefer the 414 for vocals, the NT3 & 4 do a better job for acoustic guitars for my purposes. The Rodes cost significantly less than than the industry standards, but do not sound significantly cheaper.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-02-03 12:46 PM (#195928 - in reply to #195920)
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For recording as stated above I would record the pre-amp but also do the good 'ol "condensor mic toward the body (a few inches away, pointing between the neck and center of the top) and a dynamic (like a sm57 or better) pointing down the fretboard from a point a few inches above the nut. If you are going to a studio, they will probably so this for you anyway, it's a standard setup. I have been using Nuemann TLM-103 on the body, and either an sm58 or Octava MK-219 on the neck depending on the sound. I usually setup both on the neck, and just record the one that sounds better.

For that vocal mic, get an Audix OM-5 or at least OM-2. They are perfect for live sound and damn good in the studio depending on the music.
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alpep
Posted 2004-02-03 2:40 PM (#195929 - in reply to #195920)
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beyer for vocals are my choice. they make my froggy throat sound good.

you get what you pay for. I never realized how cheap mics can really mess with your sound quality
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grrroovedude
Posted 2004-02-03 4:00 PM (#195930 - in reply to #195920)
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Thnx. I'll start hunting (and saving. An arm, a leg and a kidney still leaves me with one arm, one leg to play!).

Martin
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