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Location: Converse, Texas | Just got in my Schaller Pearloid Tuner Knobs for my O' Collector's 2000. So I'm taking an unofficial poll: Which ones do you like best? I know all that matters is what I think... and quite frankly, although I liked all the "gold" look on the guitar before, I'm liking the look of the pearl. I also like how it feels when I tune the strings.
I did have one issue: The screws that came with the knobs (from Stewart-MacDonald) were about an eighth of an inch too short, so I had to use my originals.
I'm open for comments.
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Location: Fort Worth, Texas | My initial response is the gold... |
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Location: SoCal | gold |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Both. Switch them every 6 months or when you get fed up with the look and want a change. (When you're at the factory snag some screws of the right length) |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Wow! Even the pictures from Texas are bigger!
Your honor, I like the Pearloids. When I swapped mine out I used the "O" screws too. I think the pearl looks better, feels better and doesn't give me fingerprint issues. |
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Location: On the beach in Southwest Florida | Perloids for me, but the gold look great when the guitar is new. |
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Location: Florida | They also make ebony - which is what I'd like to put on my SMT. Waiting to hear back if this thing has Schallers or Pings, or if the buttons are interchangable |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | I have an '02 CL 12 string with gold Pings and pearloid buttons. The ebony Schaller buttons work. I have to say I'm really disappointed that it came with Pings. Kim Keller says that all O's and A's come with Pings now. He says no one has ever had a problem with Pings, but...Schallers are the ultimate and I see Pings as just a way to keep costs down. |
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Location: Athens, GA & Gnashville | Go with the whale bone. |
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Location: Seattle Tacoma Washington | Well, I have to admit the gold are great new, but I was noticing that the gold ones on my Adamas 1881-nb2 are starting to get a bit scratched up. The perloid do look nice. But I think the black would look really cool. Anyone know where to find them? Thanks. Go with the perloid for daily use, put the gold on for show.
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Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | Hey string,
If by black you mean ebony then you can get them at the same place Hizzoner got his....at Stewart-McDonald....
Stew-Mac
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BTW I like the pearloid buttons!!(as if you didn't know :D )
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | I am not a fan of the pearloid buttons. I really like gold keys, and I find that the gold really adds class to Ovation acoustics. My Custom Legend has the older Schaller keys with the pearloid buttons. I don't really care for the pearloid, but that is what Custom Legends have always had. |
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Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | FWIW the only drawback to pearloid buttons are.....If you post a picture of the peghead you can't show subliminal messages or naked womens in the reflection of the buttons. :eek: (bummer)
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Location: NJ | miles is gonna kick your butt when he sees what you did to this thread!!!!!!
pics should not be this large.
go get em miles!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Location: Converse, Texas | alpep & miles: I thought the pictures were smaller. Don't know how to make 'em smaller...
Did anybody else have problems with the screws being the wrong size?
AND... don't all pre-2001 O's have Schallers?
Sorry, alpep & miles. IF ya can email me on how to make the pics smaller, I won't do that any more... :eek: |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | one way to tell if your guitar has Schaller or Ping tuners is to look at the screw that is holding the button on. If it is a phillips style head than it is a Ping tuner, if it is a regular slot it is a Schaller. Can you get me a picture of the back of your tuning keys? It is easy to tell the difference. |
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Location: Converse, Texas | It must be a Ping tuner because it's a Phillips screw. Here's the back, and I hope the picture comes out small this time. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I'm laughing to hard to scold anyone. I use photoshop and can just edit the size of a picture. I don't know what you use to edit photos, so I can't really help. Whatever it is, I would guess it has a "resize" feature someplace. |
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Location: Converse, Texas | So where can I get Ping buttons? |
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Location: Converse, Texas | miles: I used Photoshop and resized to 3" wide. I really thought the photo was gonna be smaller. Be patient with me! :D |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | Yep, those are Ping tunners. If you remember when you first talked about putting pearloid buttons on your guitar, I said find out if they are Schaller or Ping first. |
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Location: Converse, Texas | Paul: The buttons still fit. Will that be a problem? |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | The new 30th annivesary Custom Legend has Ping tuners with pearloid buttons. You may want to contact Kim Keller at Ovation service. I am sure he can get the pearloid buttons for your Ping tuners. |
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Location: SoCal | okay, just looked at my older yr1985 1659 CL 12str and it has the phillips screw, same for the yr1982 1619. now what? |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | Your Honor Sir,
I like the Gold also :cool: .... but I have one question:
Does "Pearloid" come from "Oysteroids"? ;)
sorry, someone had to ask that ... I'm surprised someone didn't ask it sooner! :rolleyes:
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Location: Upper Left USA | Only if Asters beget asteroids and Hems beget...
anyway - I still prefer the white glowy knobby thingers on the end of the whatchamacallit. |
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Location: Scotland | I have ebony buttons on my SMT, Custom Folklore & UK11. Except fot the guitars with chrome buttons most of the others have pearloid. This is partially to do with appearance but mostly because my rancid sweat rots through gold plating in no time. |
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Location: NJ | Your Honor (and anyone else posting pics):
A good "rule of thumb" is before you post the pic, resize it to a maximum WIDTH of 500 pixels or less (PhotoShop will allow you do do this).
btw: I prefer the gold. |
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Location: Fort Worth, Texas | After reading through the thread and checking the official site on what model has what tuners. Noticed that my Legend has chrome machines, allthough the officiel site lists my model comes with the gold tuners. I guess it depends on the finish, my logo is silver, too. I like the chrome ones. I like the pearloid on the 12-strings....
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | Tony, on your older Ovations are you looking at the screw that holds the button to the key, not the screw in back of the headstock that secures the tuning key to the peghead. These are phillips screws. The screws that hold the button to the key are a sloted screw on schaller keys. |
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Location: Tennessee | I put a set of pearloids from StewMac on my 2000 Collectors. The buttons are identical in size, bore, etc to the gold ones that came off. They fit perfectly, with no issues. I used the gold screws that were originaly on the guitar since the ones that came from StewMac were silver.
With all due respect, you've really got to see the entire guitar to appreciate the look of the the Pearloids. With the fretboard and top binding, the pearloids complete the look (IMHO). |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I think you should alternate, one gold, one pearloid. Or better yet, cut them in half and put gold on one side and pearl on the other.
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Location: Tennessee | hehe ... I actually did the alternating thing while installing them just for yucks. I gave up after hurting my brain trying to decide which side of the headstock looked better with the solo gold button. |
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Location: Converse, Texas | OK... so I know I screwed up and bought Schaller buttons for my Pings, but the bottom line is, since they fit, I can use them, right?
I'll be at the OFC Tour... I'll be the guy in the corner of the hotel lobby singing "Dazed and Confused..." |
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Location: Tennessee | I'm leaving mine on, yer Judgeship, since they look good and they work just fine.
What gets me, is that I looked really carefully at my older O with Shallers and compared the 2000 with them. Outside of the Ovation icon vs the Shaller icon, they appear identical. Did Shaller lose the rights to their own IP, did they just never protect their design, is Ping hoping Shaller doesn't notice, did they license the design? |
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Location: NJ | Ping just cranks them out.
As I said when I sold my old 76 Honda 750ss
Cheap
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Location: NJ | I had been considering putting gold (or chrome) buttons on my Legend 12-string, but keeping the pearloid buttons on just the "harmony" strings to facilitate quick tuning changes "on the fly" and not have to momentarily "study" the keys to decide which one to turn. |
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