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Location: SoCal | As posted, got a 1687-7 (beige) Adamas off of eBay; having sent directly to Kim to check out and, if necessary, prime it up. The serial is 4337-73, 73 being the resonance frequency...Kim said it is usually in the 80's to low 90's. Could be interesting. Assuming the seller didn't read it wrong (maybe a 93) - and, assuming resonance reflects vibration - hopefully, it wasn't modeled after Les Paul's wood 2x4 1st electric. We'll see. |
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Location: NJ | Trust me Tony, you're gonna LURVE it!!!! |
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Location: SoCal | Cliff, thanks, I know I will. Just when Kim says he's never seen one that low?? Jazz strings? Anyway, felt it deserved a little special treatment by the caring hands back at the big O. Figured I better get one now, they are starting to disappear and appreciating faster than SoCal homes (well, maybe not that fast.) |
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Location: SoCal | When it comes to resonance frequency, is low good or bad? What's the ideal? Big Blue's is 85. This may be one of those questions that only Temp, or somebody from the factory can answer. |
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Location: NJ | Interesting question.
My SlotHead's a 95. |
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Location: Florida | Just for grins... whats the frequency of a low E on the gitfiddle? The low A is 220Hz right? |
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Location: SoCal | always wanted one of dem der 6-string Adamas bass things. |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | E = 82.4
A = 110.0
D = 146.8
G = 196.0
B = 246.9
E = 329.6
Bass would be 1/2 of the above. |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | Tony, my Adamas resonance freq. was 93. |
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Location: SoCal | :( I will not feel deficient :( I will not feel deficient :( I will not feel deficient :( |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | A Wise Man Once Said...
If you own an Adamas rejoice...
and Look on the Bright Side...
You Could Be Playing a KAY Guitar with the Strngs 1 inch off the fretboard! OUCH!! :eek:
Not Sure who said it... But I'm sure they were important. I feel it in my Ovation Playing Bones!
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Relax Tony
You are just going to have some beautiful bass overtones when you hit them low notes. The other notes will still sound the same it is the guitars freq that is listed and it has nothing to do with the string vibration. I would expect that guitar to have a very nice acoustic sound as one of the criticisms of Ovations is their lack of a booming bass (Martin) sound when played acoustically. I wouldn't let any of these sharks talk you in to dumping on it before you hear it and decide if that's what you like, some of them might want that sound. I know I would.
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Location: Upper Left USA | A wonderful thing happened last year! My Golf score, Bowling average and IQ all hit the same number.
... I need a new set of clubs. |
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Location: Scotland | The bottom E at concert picth is 82Hz so upper 70's to low 90's makes perfect sense as a target frequency. I have never seen an original Adamas with the fundamental as low as 73Hz but I was talking to Darren in engineering about top & helmholtz resonance and he told me that the new Adamas 12-fret Slothead prototypes were in the 70Hz region. Those of us who've heard them know how thunderous they sound unplugged but I think a guitar with a resonant frequency that low could be a feedback nightmare at gig volume. |
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Location: Florida | Paul I dont think it would be any worse for feedback, but perhaps harder to control, as the notch to eliminate it would have to be sharper.
After reading this... I'm wondering why nobody has ever used a ported top to extend the low end of a body... other than the fact that it would be hideously ugly. |
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Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | Darren in engineering is a great guy. He is from my hometown. I spoke to him the other day on the phone and he said it was great to talk to someone with a cajun accent. I didn't realize I have a cajun accent. (lol) Oh well comes with the territory. |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by CharlieB:
Paul I dont think it would be any worse for feedback, but perhaps harder to control, as the notch to eliminate it would have to be sharper.
After reading this... I'm wondering why nobody has ever used a ported top to extend the low end of a body... other than the fact that it would be hideously ugly.
And "Harder to control" isn't "worse for feedback"?
The top is already ported, it's called a soundhole. This is something of an over-simplification but in basic Helmholtz physics adding a further or larger port without changing the body size would actually decrease bass response. Ever played an Elite or Adamas with the back-plate off and wondered where the bass went? Or played an Elite-T or early cutaway Adamas with the soundholes on the bass-bout only and noticed how good the low-end is? Contrary to the Clarence White enlarged soundhole myth, a slightly smaller port in relation to the volume of air enclosed in the body actually increases bass response. Notice how small-bodied guitars such as Martin "0" size have smaller soundholes (compared to larger guitars) in proportion to the body-size and produce a well-balanced sound with good bass-response. |
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Location: SoCal | Adamas was checked out by Kim today...although seller twice said 73, actual 93. He said "I was presented with an instrument in almost immaculate original condition for an instrument of this vintage. The burst is very faded, and there is a very slight chip on the edge of the top of the peghead, the guitar had leaned against something. The OP-24 preamp is in good working order and presented no problems. The guitar exhibits slight fret wear. Bracing is tight and accurate, and the fingerboard extension is down tight. There is an original catalog and warranty inside the case, as well as a receipt and invoice from the seller. I would consider the guitar to be in excellent condition.
The only flaw I could find other than the rub on the headstock is a slight crack in the wooden peghead overlay (not worth fixing and not noticeable under normal conditions, and the neck angle is a few millimeters high. Since the setup is good with high neck angles, I do not expect the dealer knew anything about this, but the pickup is shimmed up very high.
I would recommend the neck be reset and the frets leveled and dressed while it is here, but the guitar is certainly very playable as it sits."
When I told him to do everything except change to purple (old joke concerning the 1658 they just worked on), he said "We just got a 55 gallon drum of Green Goblin paint from Sears. That should work just fine. The toughest part is getting the latex paint to stick to the graphite tops. We are trying different textured rollers..."
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Location: Central Oregon | Since they have 55 gallons of the stuff they can just pour it full. At least it will stay stuck on the inside. Should cure any feedback problems at the same time.
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