Is there any interest or chance of an OFC LX guitar... made to our spec?
CharlieB
Posted 2004-05-28 3:13 PM (#186449)
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I see the Tacoma folks are doing that for their fan club.

Could Ovation do this for club members at some reasonable cost? How many would they need to make to make it "worth it" for them and keep the cost reasonable?

Better question is... would the members here support such an idea?
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-05-28 3:28 PM (#186450 - in reply to #186449)
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That would be a neat idea. I guess it would depend on the cost as to whether or not Ovation would do such a thing. Some are not really in the market for a new guitar, They might do that sort of thing on an order by order basis..but my guess is it could run into some bucks. Al or Miles might know more about whether or not this sort of thing could be done. Still a very neat idea..
Kudos for thinking of it.
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Paul Wag
Posted 2004-05-28 3:33 PM (#186451 - in reply to #186449)
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Just convince my wife I need one...
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Steve
Posted 2004-05-28 3:43 PM (#186452 - in reply to #186449)
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I also wondere what the turn-around time is on a custom order anyway?...

steve
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cliff
Posted 2004-05-28 3:47 PM (#186453 - in reply to #186449)
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The topic's been brought up here in the past.

By the time you've sifted through everyone's "input" as to what it "should be" and what it "should have", a befitting inlay for the trc would be a depiction of the Tower of Babel.
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-05-28 3:59 PM (#186454 - in reply to #186449)
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Well what I was thinking was perhaps a variation of a standard model or maybe models.

I'm thowing this out as a "for instance" sort of thing..... A Custom Legend LX or Custom Elite LX with special finish (like deep amber natural or something), special TRC, special 12th fret inlay, and special serial number, maybe special heel plate. Could be a Legend LX or Elite LX to make it more "affordable"... or could be just a Balladeer or Special Elite to make it very affordable.

In my pie in the sky way of thinking... I was hoping that perhaps if we could do 15 or 20 guitars it would make it less pricey to do on account of whatever they did special would be spread out over the whole run of instruments.

What would be REALLY neat... would be to order by say... August 31, and pick up at the mothership in the spring.

Anyway, just a thought.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-05-28 4:07 PM (#186455 - in reply to #186449)
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Charlie B - I like the way you think!

Elite LX 12 string, OFC inlay at 12.

Make it a longneck to commemorate the repainting of the Cistene (NJ) Chapel and I will even pose for it!!
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-05-28 4:33 PM (#186456 - in reply to #186449)
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What? Not another "pull my finger" painting on a perfectly good ceiling!!!!
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-05-28 4:46 PM (#186457 - in reply to #186449)
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LOL!! You guys are too Much!! :D :D
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alpep
Posted 2004-05-28 5:11 PM (#186458 - in reply to #186449)
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it is possible. I have talked about it with Rick Hall. He is open to it although now with all the attention on the LX guitars I am not sure when they may have time to do it.
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-05-28 5:22 PM (#186459 - in reply to #186449)
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Maybe it would be beneficial to discuss this more here, and setting aside the time for the moment, get the pricing, and confirm the orders with deposits. I'd be content to let Ovation do its thing as it best sees fit as far as time is concerned.
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-05-28 5:56 PM (#186460 - in reply to #186449)
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oooo...now would be a bad time.
A year from now maybe.
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"OFC" at the 12th fret would be very cool.
What else?
A G7 capo comes with it.
A mauve gig bag.
A lifetime warrenty that extends to whoever owns it.
A brush made of llama hair to clean the dust off.
a foil label!!
The case would be lined with Hawaian shirt material.
A deep bowl (for Moody & me)
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Brad
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-05-28 6:37 PM (#186461 - in reply to #186449)
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While its nice to think in terms of "dream guitar", I only think this would be do-able if a regular production model was "modified" for OFC.

I do like the idea of a foil label though... SIGNED by the K-man himself~~~!!!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-05-28 7:25 PM (#186462 - in reply to #186449)
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I think Brad nailed it. Let's also not forget a lot of abalone around the body.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-05-28 7:35 PM (#186463 - in reply to #186449)
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"it is possible. I have talked about it with Rick Hall. He is open to it although now with all the attention on the LX guitars I am not sure when they may have time to do it."

I volunteer to take 2 weeks of vacation, come to the factory and push a broom, load wood, cut abalone or whatever it takes to free up some help.
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xnoel
Posted 2004-05-28 10:02 PM (#186464 - in reply to #186449)
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Charlie,
Great idea! I was not in the market for a new guitar, but I am now!
A year from now would not be bad, time to get the rest of the money and anticipation! (Who sang that song?)
Keep it affordable,guys.

noel
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-05-28 10:38 PM (#186465 - in reply to #186449)
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Carly Simon!!! And I saw her play a deep blue Adamas once for her whole live show!!
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MWoody
Posted 2004-05-28 11:24 PM (#186466 - in reply to #186449)
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A Group G-A-S attack!

An ORGANIZED G-A-S attack!

Al - the guitar I just asked you about - Come even close and I'll commit!
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2004-05-29 6:11 AM (#186467 - in reply to #186449)
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How about something simple for starters...like an OFC truss rod cover? That would give us all some incentive to get an LX, and each one of us could buy whichever model we like/can afford. Then again...I could put one on my non-LX CL. John. <>{
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PeterD
Posted 2004-05-29 8:44 AM (#186468 - in reply to #186449)
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Something classy not GASsy. Not too extreme ($) and more will be able to afford it - like me!
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JohnnyMac
Posted 2004-05-29 11:43 AM (#186469 - in reply to #186449)
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I think this is a terrific idea. I also think that there is a lot of agreement here on the key elements of what makes a great Ovation guitar.
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willard
Posted 2004-05-29 4:12 PM (#186470 - in reply to #186449)
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I think it should be blue with little surfboards for sound holes.
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alpep
Posted 2004-05-29 6:08 PM (#186471 - in reply to #186449)
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designing by committee never works. I will just sit down and submit something that everyone would hate but me.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-05-29 6:38 PM (#186472 - in reply to #186449)
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Well, your Viper would fit that description.
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Beal
Posted 2004-05-29 7:00 PM (#186473 - in reply to #186449)
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Foil lables are hard to sign, ink and metal don't mix that well.
I like the idea of the llama hair brush and the mauve hawaian shirt liner.

like so many of these things, it can be done but ya'll gots to put the money down. You know what they say, money talks and wishin and hopin just spins it's wheels over and over and over and.....
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-05-29 7:06 PM (#186474 - in reply to #186449)
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Al you have the best contact with Ovation... Why not work with them for some altered LX model? I guess what I'm saying is that Ovation would know what it can do and what it cannot do in terms of materials and price and fitting it in any sort of production schedule.

If they say "what if we do 'this' for you guys", then it could at least be some starting point.

OR...

Is there any way of getting a few very interested souls together, emphasis on few, and try and come up with something that is presented to the limited masses here for approval?

FWIW, I think the Tacoma folks did a good job of it (if you like Tacoma). They basically said, lets do a poll for each feature, only those who are serious about buying ought to vote.

They ended up with an all mahogany guitar with ebony bridge and fretboard, curly maple binding on body and neck, no markers on the fretboard (like my Adamas) and MOP rosette and peghead inlay, all in a gloss finish. Supposedly Tacoma only needs 6 guitars to make the order work.

Anyway, what is the direction to head for this idea?
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MWoody
Posted 2004-05-29 7:12 PM (#186475 - in reply to #186449)
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If I may.
A pig and a rooster were sitting outside of Farmer Bob's kitchen looking in as he sat down for his morning breakfast of Bacon-n-eggs.

The Rooster says "I hope he likes his breakfast. I am really committed to those eggs tasting good".

The Pig looks over at the Rooster.

"You're involved. I'm committed"!

I wanna be a Pig!

As long as it doesn't suck. I mean, I really like the OFC inlay idea. And while I'm being a Pig it needs Abologna.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-05-29 7:15 PM (#186476 - in reply to #186449)
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CB,
What are the Tacoma Boys paying for theirs?
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-05-29 7:46 PM (#186477 - in reply to #186449)
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Delivered under $1000 - dunno how much under, but it has been said the participating dealer wants one for himself, and is cutting his take to a bolonga thin slice.

I mean, I'd be content with something like a Legend LX (though I'd rather it be a Custom Legend) with say nutmeg finish and 12th fret overlay, maybe TRC.

Of course... this ought to be a YEARLY thing. IOW, real collectors stuff.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-05-29 9:53 PM (#186478 - in reply to #186449)
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Charlie,
It's a lot like an engagement ring - it's gotta hurt a little to show you care - but if you don't go far enough you may come up short.

I'd be interested in what the Factory has to say. They are the Craftsman!

(BTW - I will still accept a summer job)
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-05-29 10:02 PM (#186479 - in reply to #186449)
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ah so true - ok no pain no gain

Maybe Al can get the ball rolling then.
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Slipkid
Posted 2004-05-30 10:50 AM (#186480 - in reply to #186449)
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I love the idea. If it happened now I would regretfully have to pass. A year from now, maybe.
There Lies The Rub....Many LX fans from this board have already made a purchase. Getting twenty or so to commit at the same time might be tough.
Brad
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xnoel
Posted 2004-05-30 8:15 PM (#186481 - in reply to #186449)
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Just a suggestion, how about setting a target price, something that most that are interested in the fan club guitar can agree on. Then take that figure to the factory and say, "What can you build for us in this price range?"

noel
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Glockaxis
Posted 2004-05-30 8:52 PM (#186482 - in reply to #186449)
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xnoel, that sounds like a great idea. I wouldn't mind the price houvering around that of a baladeer. Must be US made, Don't care about the abalone inlays, just want a quality bare bones guitar w/ meduim bowl and decent electronics. Got that Al? Order it ASAP :D
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Glockaxis
Posted 2004-05-30 8:57 PM (#186483 - in reply to #186449)
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....one more thing AL, abalone inlay of OFC at the 12th fret :D ----Just joking w/ you being incharge of all this AL-----but my ideas are serious.
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PeterD
Posted 2004-05-31 2:51 AM (#186484 - in reply to #186449)
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As long as we, I should say "Al" is asking, How about asking for the deep bowl? Or would a deep bowl turn more folks off the deal? Wouldn't it be a nice gift to the fans to give them the first shot at the LX Deep Bowls? Wouldn't that make them more "Collectable"?
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cruster
Posted 2004-05-31 8:17 AM (#186485 - in reply to #186449)
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Originally posted by Peter:
As long as we, I should say "Al" is asking, How about asking for the deep bowl? Or would a deep bowl turn more folks off the deal? Wouldn't it be a nice gift to the fans to give them the first shot at the LX Deep Bowls? Wouldn't that make them more "Collectable"?


G-d help me if my wife reads this, but:

I'd lay down a deposit for a deep bowl, round hole, OFC inlay at the 12th fret model. Don't particularly care about a bunch of abalone, as long as the top is highly figured and has a natural finish. :)

The HSC with mauve (or was it hawaiian print?) lining would be nice, as well. Now that I'm thinking about it, it doesn't even need electronics...just plain ol' acoustic would be fine with me. ;)
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alpep
Posted 2004-05-31 8:31 AM (#186486 - in reply to #186449)
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I can see it now..


deep bowl or detachable bowls to suit your mood
roundhole eith epaulets
12 fret but can be expanded to 24
slothead
convertible to cutaway or non cutaway
LX neck
MOP inlays and abolone
6 and 12 string
with an assortment of preamps
snap on attachments to make it look like an adamas 1
snap in tops so you can try different woods or carbon fiber


who volunteered me for this??????
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-05-31 8:37 AM (#186487 - in reply to #186449)
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I did! I did!

I'm gonna say it again. It need not be a "dream" Ovation, just something different, nice, elegant even, and afforable without too much pain.

Al, you know these folks better than anyone. Whaddaya think they'll do?
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alpep
Posted 2004-05-31 10:54 AM (#186488 - in reply to #186449)
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oops I forgot it has to be under $700 list

charlie
I will hash it out and see what we can come up with. I am sure it will not satisfy everyone.
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JohnnyMac
Posted 2004-05-31 12:44 PM (#186489 - in reply to #186449)
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Al, you are a genius. "In every revolution, there is one man with a vision..." (James T. Kirk).

Talk about a multitasker!! Maybe the mothership engineers could lunch with the guys from ShopVac to work out the details on all these attachments & options.
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Posted 2004-05-31 12:55 PM (#186490 - in reply to #186449)
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Who needs 18 attachments? Why stop at one guitar? We could have the OFC collector series! :D
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MWoody
Posted 2004-05-31 1:07 PM (#186491 - in reply to #186449)
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Of all the galleries offered I have been in awe the complete set shown by Playadamas of tghe "Book" series. I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up with a "Book Ukelele".

The idea of having something special that could be added to any model sounds good. We are a diverse group after all!

Al - since you have volunteered for this one maybe someone can check with Bill Nichols about inlay or TRCs?
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-05-31 1:57 PM (#186492 - in reply to #186449)
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The factory could do it MUCH less expensively than Bill. His are literally hand cut... although, he might machine cut the letters.

What would the inlay say?

Ought it be "OFC" or "OFC/05" (hinting that there would be another next year....) or?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-05-31 6:26 PM (#186493 - in reply to #186449)
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Al's right, it'll never work. I'd need a wide-neck and it would have to be a 12-fret cutaway. Maybe a more pragmatic approach would be to have the factory make an OFC truss-rod cover. Then IF any OFC member gets around to custom-ordering the guitar of their dreams the TRC could be added as an exclusive extra. That way you get exactly what you want without everyone bitching over the finer points. Maybe the TRC could also be made available to members as a stand-alone item which could be added to any Ovation.
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Glockaxis
Posted 2004-05-31 8:09 PM (#186494 - in reply to #186449)
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Al, thanks for volunteering. I think it should be a barebones folklore model paying homage to the original with everything simplified and OFC Member (plus number????) in abalone at the 12th fret.

We're only throwing out ideas----throw a few of the decent ones at the company and get us a good deal. We trust your opinion and judgement. It's the personalization of "OFC Member + number" that will sell these things and endear them to us.
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cruster
Posted 2004-05-31 8:09 PM (#186495 - in reply to #186449)
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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
... Maybe the TRC could also be made available to members as a stand-alone item which could be added to any Ovation.


Any Ovation, you say? Hrmm, wonder how a TRC would look on my non-TRC equipped Elite.

;)
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-06-01 12:13 AM (#186496 - in reply to #186449)
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So, if we sell the OFC trc guitar later on eBay - they have to have at least 5 feedback and join the OFC? Actually may not a bad idea. Any seller of an O recommend to the buyer to join?

We have past mediocre history with the FD-14, improved by the recent purchases of 30th CL's and LX's - hopefully the factory knows that OFC'ers will buy new.

Problem is what model, bowl, cutaway or non-cutaway, binding, 6-str or 12, etc.

Heck, I want a soid top, center hole, 12-fret, CL carved walnut bridge, Adamas I headstock, OP-Pro, no cutaway, deep or mid-bowl, abalone inlaid, ivory binding, bone nut, ebony fretboard, and slothead 6 or 12-string in dark sunburst.

Sounds like they would have to offer at least 5 or 6 models to satisfy. Recently, I got a 2001 Collector's from Al - obviously designed for Japanese market...had a really nice medallion on the bowl near where the neck attaches - O logo and something refering to quality inspection. Personalization for a specific market. Probably same for all models sold in Japan. So, realistically a medallion or trc. Minimal cost even at a small number.

Or, we know of several guitar stores (Ash, GC) that have had specific tops or finishes. LX with a specific top (bearclaw, cedar, redwood, walnut)- can't see why someone couldn't specify 6 or 12-str, full or deep bowl, etc. Just a change in the finish.

For a specific model, have to believe we would need over 30 (maybe 50) orders with pre-paid deposits. Money talks. They are very busy. So, discounts? Would compete against busy production lines and have to go through a dealer. Even at volume, the dealer would have to make a few pesos. Would be surprised if we can generate that number of pre-paid orders.

Frankly, if I was at the big O, I would just say the OFC can buy the great ones we are making now and we will toss in a $1.00 OFC sticker for their bumper or guitar case.

Or, we say screw it, buy up the current line from Ovation/Adamas or the great stragglers on eBay and buy stickers from the OFC store, supporting the operation of this board.

Anyone ordered OFC picks, pen, coffee cup, tags, etc., recently???
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Beal
Posted 2004-06-01 7:13 AM (#186497 - in reply to #186449)
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Al, I think you summed it all up perfectly except the under $700 was with the case which was mauve with hawaiian lining.
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Posted 2004-06-01 8:47 AM (#186498 - in reply to #186449)
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Anyone ordered OFC picks, pen, coffee cup, tags, etc., recently???


yep....Adamas level :D

OFC Guitar? Deep Bowl, Single Cutaway, Multi-hole, Ebony Fretboard/Bridge 12th fret inlay, figured specialty top....FREE to OFC Members who have posted at least 500 posts :rolleyes:
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-01 10:31 AM (#186499 - in reply to #186449)
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YOu have to realize that ordering a CUSTOM guitar for your personal specs and putting together a guitar that will appeal to a wide variety of people are too different things.

If you want a guitar with personal specs send me your custom order requests and I will get them priced uot for you.


If the fd 14 or the acoustic only adamas or the OFC merchandise is a sign, there are few willing to pony up when the time comes.
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cruster
Posted 2004-06-01 10:42 AM (#186500 - in reply to #186449)
Subject: Re: Is there any interest or chance of an OFC LX guitar... made to our spec?


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Originally posted by alpep:
YOu have to realize that ordering a CUSTOM guitar for your personal specs and putting together a guitar that will appeal to a wide variety of people are too different things.

If you want a guitar with personal specs send me your custom order requests and I will get them priced uot for you.


If the fd 14 or the acoustic only adamas or the OFC merchandise is a sign, there are few willing to pony up when the time comes.



I'm new, so be gentle, but, what's an FD14?
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2004-06-01 11:05 AM (#186501 - in reply to #186449)
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Sorry guys, but from a marketing standpoint, a collector's edition for the OFC would have very limited saleability. I do agree, though, that the collector's should all be very unique.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-06-01 11:11 AM (#186502 - in reply to #186449)
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Cruster, good question - had the same one a few months ago. Very unique. Light, feels more like an LX - Dave (standingovation) has said it is the best sounding wood Ovation (rough paraphrase) and I absolutely concur.

Limited run of 50 instruments, deep bowl non-cutaway body, solid AAA grade cedar top w/natural satin finish, 5-piece mahogany/maple neck w/19 fret ebony fretboard (no inlays), 1 3/4" nut width, 25 1/4" scale, neck attaches to body at the 12th fret, ebony pinless bridge, slotted peghead w/ebony overlay, gold Schaller tuners w/ebony buttons, tortoise shell inlayed rosette, Ovation True-Balance pickup w/direct out preamp & preset E.Q. (no controls - end pin)
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cliff
Posted 2004-06-01 11:25 AM (#186503 - in reply to #186449)
Subject: Re: Is there any interest or chance of an OFC LX guitar... made to our spec?


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I think the best bet would be just going with the OFC truss rod covers (or at least, just STARTING with that).
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-06-01 11:46 AM (#186504 - in reply to #186449)
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cruster and Tony,
To further expound (actually I would guess Tony already knows) on the reason for that commentary, the FD-14 was made based on a lot of the "wish list" commentary from this board. Also there were several deep bowl acoustic only Adamas guitars made available to members. Based on the fact that no one from the OFC bought any of those guitars when they were made available, I see no motivation for Ovation to design anything too special for the OFC. Maybe something simple like a custom truss rod cover, or some special 12th fret marker that is different from the norm, but not specifically OFC would be prudent on their part. If folks from the OFC purchased them, fine, if not, they would still be nice instruments to sell on the open market.
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Eman
Posted 2004-06-01 4:35 PM (#186505 - in reply to #186449)
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I don't see any combination that hasn't already been tried. By the time all of the input is gathered and the OFC designs a new Ovation, it will be an Adamas... with a deep bowl. Think of all the primary components and see what can be improved upon. The top, the electronics, bowl thickness, bracing, neck/finger-board, ornamentation, body style, headstock. What hasn't been tried?

I think all the permutations have been developed. So, just select a model (hopefully from among the past greats)and put OFC on the 12th fret.

I vote for the folklore steel-string, slot head, LX in stereo with thin, maybe rosewood colored deep bowl.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-01 4:53 PM (#186506 - in reply to #186449)
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I, personally, think it should be a 12 fret slothead Adamas with special inlays on the neck. And Ovation should just give them to the OFC members for being so loyal.


Wha... sorry. Just woke up from a wonderful dream.
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-01 5:45 PM (#186507 - in reply to #186449)
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OK guys
I just heard from the powers to be.

We CAN do this BUT I would have to have a firm committment to 12 guitar minimum and we would have to AGREE on the specs.

I would be willing to do this but it would mean a firm commmitment from everyone involved and half DEPOSIT for every guitar ordered.

So the first thing would be to come together on specs for a guitar that EVERYONE would like and would be of interest to many.

My vote goes for
Adamas 1
shallow bowl
op pro preamp
ebony board
cutaway
single epaulet
slot head
gold hardware
Blue textured top
schaller tuners
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-06-01 6:52 PM (#186508 - in reply to #186449)
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Al,

Add a carved bridge and I'm in.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-01 7:07 PM (#186509 - in reply to #186449)
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Shallow bowl??????????????????????????????? mid-depth maybe, but otherwise include me out.

See how ridiculous this is? 2 posts later and we're back to picking over details.
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-01 7:10 PM (#186510 - in reply to #186449)
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bowl size could probably be per order
so we have 3 so far?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-01 7:15 PM (#186511 - in reply to #186449)
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If they'll make, and they probably will, a 12-fret textured-top Adamas with a slot-head wide-neck, deepbowl cutaway & electronics they can have my money right now & I couldn't care less whether anyone else wants one. Good luck with the OFC model, but I guess if it happens it probably wont suit me.
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-06-01 7:27 PM (#186512 - in reply to #186449)
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We talking LX treatment on the neck joint?

If a mid bowl... I'd do that (within even slightly unreasonable price)

BUT - I wonder how many would want the same?

Is a poll in order?
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Jimlew
Posted 2004-06-01 7:40 PM (#186513 - in reply to #186449)
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Great specs Al! I would be interested depending on cost and the ability to order a deeper bowl.
Jim
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-01 8:20 PM (#186514 - in reply to #186449)
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This is one that I'm going to pass on. With limited funds, I might be able to finance one new Ovation this year, and if that's the case, I'm going to have it custom made.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2004-06-01 8:31 PM (#186515 - in reply to #186449)
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I'm interested, but will need to know ballpark pricing before I can commit to writing the check. FWIW, I'm generally OK with Al's list, although I too would rather see a mid or deep bowl. And if I could have my choice of epaulets, it would be the palm tree ... quite fitting for a collectable guitar (and it would match the case lining).
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Legend-LX-Fan
Posted 2004-06-01 10:53 PM (#186516 - in reply to #186449)
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MOB
Deep Bowl
Solid Top
NNNNnaaaaaaaa, forget it! :D :D :D
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-06-01 10:58 PM (#186517 - in reply to #186449)
Subject: Re: Is there any interest or chance of an OFC LX guitar... made to our spec?



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12-string
Adamas 1 headstock
mid or deep bowl as option (prefer deep)
op pro preamp
ebony board w/abalone inlaids
cutaway
double epaulet
gloss neck
slot head, 12 fret
gold hardware, pearloid buttons
blue reverse sunburst [8] textured top
schaller tuners
carved walnut bridge
certificate of authenticity
serial number OFC 1 of 12
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playadamas
Posted 2004-06-02 1:42 AM (#186518 - in reply to #186449)
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Al, you spec. it and I'll buy it. That said, I just want to remind myself and whoever is interested that the main criterion for myself to buy a guitar is the way it sounds and how it fits in my playing and musical choice. It is a little different than buying an automobile. Options and materials will all affect the outcome of the sound. I am not sure even the factory will know exactly what the sound will be like. It's probably more of a sentimental and memorable piece, but a good sounding one at that.

Just my personal thoughts on the matter.
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-06-02 7:32 AM (#186519 - in reply to #186449)
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Al, I'm confused. What exactly is the difference if 15 of us order the same spec "custom guitar" vs. everyone special orders their own custom. Are you inferring that the pricing might be better with a run of 15? My guess is that the difference is price may not be worth compromising what each person really wants in a "custom" guitar. I for one, would rather pay a bit more and get exactly what I want.

Sooo, what would I order? How about a Hamer Studio with an Ovation headstock ???
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-02 8:17 AM (#186520 - in reply to #186449)
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well obviously a custom order guitar is a one off and a limited run is exactly that a limited run.
I assume pricing would be cheaper when you tool up for 12 guitars as opposed to a single one. plus we can perhaps have them numbered sequencially and 1/12, 2/12 etc.

bowl size can probably be adjusted without any extra cost, certain neck specs etc would of course make it a custom guitar.

To make it a "fan club model" we would need to have more that one.
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cliff
Posted 2004-06-02 8:51 AM (#186521 - in reply to #186449)
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Judging by the direction that this seeems to be going in, I'd have to humbly bow out. I'm not really in the financial position right now to buy a custom guitar that doesn't suit my needs on the sheer basis of everyone else in the "Club" has the same one.

I don't "need" another deep-bowl six-string. I've already got two. I don't "need" another Adamas (and without trying to sound "snob-ish", anything that Ovation might be able to produce - at an affordable cost - would pale in comparison).

For me, the ultimate "gig guitar" :
Shallow(or mid)bowl EliteT.
"Flame" model - but without the "flame" - just the "base" shade of red (or maybe a nice blue).
Same gloss finish on top, bowl, neck & headstock.
No eppaulets.
Ebony fingerboard.
Inlay logo at 12th fret - none on headstock.
OpPro.

Either that or something like Witko's "StealthAdamas".
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-06-02 9:58 AM (#186522 - in reply to #186449)
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Ahhh, Cliff my boy. Almost forgot about the Stealth Adamas. Check the website, just added the photos of old stealthy a few weeks ago. But photos don't do it justice, especially with Temps greasy sweaty fingerprints. Next January, this one will be a looky, touchy, but no can keep. Ultimate gigging guitar? Yeah, I'd say so...
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xnoel
Posted 2004-06-02 10:00 AM (#186523 - in reply to #186449)
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Al,

I like your list. Now for the price?

noel
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Phil Wong
Posted 2004-06-02 11:04 AM (#186524 - in reply to #186449)
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Al,

How about Oxycontin shaped epalets and a Viagra shaped headstock? :D :eek: :rolleyes: :p
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cliff
Posted 2004-06-02 11:08 AM (#186525 - in reply to #186449)
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". . . and a Viagra shaped headstock . ."


. . . . oh, fuck it, . . I'm not even gonna go there! . . . that'd be just TOO easy! . . . ."
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-06-02 1:05 PM (#186526 - in reply to #186449)
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Phil,
Don't even say it!! Al Might go for it!! :D
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Phil Wong
Posted 2004-06-02 1:18 PM (#186527 - in reply to #186449)
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Steve,

If Al goes for it we can call this model
"The Big O". :D :p :eek:
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-06-02 1:19 PM (#186528 - in reply to #186449)
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Rimshot/Cymbal!
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-06-02 1:31 PM (#186529 - in reply to #186449)
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I have had second thoughts about this...this is a board for all - not collectors, not amateurs, not professionals, not 6-str, not 12-str, rich, poor, men, women, etc. What brings us together is at least one of the many Ovation/Adamas models. The instrument could be worth $300 or more than $2,000. We appreciate the instrument and enjoy playing.

It is not appropriate (IMHO) to create an instrument that only a few can or want to get. Check out the OFC Store - these are items that anyone can get to show their involvement and pride in the OFC. Why leave out approximately 2,522 members (shows 2,534 on my screen now.)

Heck, some who buy this special guitar might not have the money to come to the next tour. I'm looking forward to coming next year for the camaraderie.

Any of us want a customized guitar, fine. And, not only do we have great production guitars available to us this year, next year may have even more to satisfy our GAS.

How do we create something in recognition of our passion with the OFC? Something unique but also relatively inexpensive. When I served in a squadron - a plaque, squadron patch, and mug (and I had to buy the mug.) 6th Engineer Bn (Portland) gave me a signed limited edition print of Pappy Boyington shooting down his 21st zero - probably $100.

We already can get OFC mugs - could get a OFC mug with "2,500 and growing"

Could get a picture of the factory with the guys on the floor that make our guitars all signing it. Could say congrats to the OFC.

Could get a sticker for the case or car bumper.

Or, what??? Personally, I believe we can put something together that is nice but under $25-35.

I believe we have an obligation to find something that is available to all, not a select few. If there are enough for a limited run, fine but not as an OFC function.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-06-02 1:55 PM (#186530 - in reply to #186449)
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Very well put Tony!

I still like the OFC inlay or TRC concept. Something simple and available.

And may I quote "What brings us together is at least one of the many Ovation/Adamas models."

May I add "and a significant amount of time spent on the internet". So wouldn't a Pc interface or a keyboard attachment for our guitars fit the bill?

A seemingly impossible task. Let's look with excitement at what may lie ahead!
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cruster
Posted 2004-06-02 2:10 PM (#186531 - in reply to #186449)
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Originally posted by MWoody:
May I add "and a significant amount of time spent on the internet". So wouldn't a Pc interface or a keyboard attachment for our guitars fit the bill?

A seemingly impossible task. Let's look with excitement at what may lie ahead!


Hey, I already have a computer interface for my Ovation! It's called an Echo Layla 24 PCMCIA!! Right into Sonar3 I can go with the audio...dang, why didn't I think of that sooner! Mwoody is the best! :) Now, if I get an OFC sticker to put on the top of the Layla, I'm golden! :cool:
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