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Location: NJ | This guitar will be a more moderately priced model that would be accessible to many people This guitar would have all the LX system yet have a flame maple top to make it "pretty" and contribute to the overall sound quality. It will have a good sound and be functional and practical and not totally break the bank accessible to many members. Please post ONLY if you are interested or if you have a constructive comment. If there is not enough interest there will be no need to pursue this option any further.
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flamed maple top
currently the LX is only available in mid so we will have to see if any other options will be available when we order them.
op pro pre amp.
12th fret market with OFC logo or something to be determined.
certificate of authenticity
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Location: Phoenix, AZ | Al, I've read both your options 1 and 2. FWIW, I am so happy with my Elite LX, the only Ovation which could pry it out of my hands would be an Adamas Q-top LX. I guess that we'll see the LX changes applied to the Adamas line. And, I guess we'll see more use of the Q-top (beyond the current Adamas and (the Adamas antithesis) MOB). So, I guess KMC will build my LX "replacement" one of these days. All I'll have to hope for is that I like the color selection!
Hope this helps with your OFC model guitar poll. choices |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | $0.02
The OFC Guitar is ok (Also thanks to Al for the work), but for me, I'm saving my dimes for that Adamas textured top that Al has (I hope it stays in his closet until I can buy it!) :( and would not really be interested in a "Club" guitar.
I have purchased the OFC Swag from the Store (still waiting for delivery) and feel that's sufficient evidence to pronounce my OFC guilt! :rolleyes: |
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Location: Tennessee | I'm in. Would like the XLR out option with the OP-Pro. I assume the flame maple top will not have the typical bowl paint applied. |
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Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma | Al thanks for all the hard work... I've sat here and thought about all the guitars everyone thinks are the bomb and it appears that there is tons of interest in the 97' collector parlor.... Don't know if it could be done but why not a parlor OFC guitar?.... Just my two cents worth... I'm definitely interested in a OFC "collector" |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | I am assuming that the flame maple top would be a veneer like the collector's guitars?
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Location: Florida | Flame maple in some color?
Of the two choices, I'd be leaning for #1 but... I'd like to see if they could do that in an LX type neck setup |
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Location: NJ | solid top flame maple natural finish |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | that would be nice but not cheep. you might want to throw some color on it so the falme will stand out more. maybe a real faded 59 s/b. It's not for the color, just to make the grain more pronounced. |
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Location: Scotland | What's wrong with spruce? A solid maple top, regardless of figuring, is a less than ideal choice of material if you want a great-sounding acoustic guitar. Maple is a hardwood & hardwoods are generaly not the first choice for flattop guitars. It would be cheaper to do a panelmaster & it would sound pretty much the same. Hardwoods such as Walnut, Koa & Mahogany have been used reasonably succesfully in flattop guitar production, but they do not sound anything like Spruce or Cedar. I can't recall a flattop guitar ever with a solid maple top. |
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Location: NJ | if you want spruce buy a 1777 lx |
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Location: Scotland | I have no interest in this guitar but as an obsever what's the criteria, appearance or sound? |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
I have no interest in this guitar but as an obsever what's the criteria, appearance or sound?
thanks Paul
anyone wanted this option will now contact Paul. He has all the answers.
I'm out of here. |
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Location: Florida | jhease leweez |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | OH aLeX, come on back. He was just being british, he can't help it! He is right though, a panelmaster would sound better.
Paul, Hasn't Gibsnot done some solid maple tops? I thought I saw some 185's or 200's done up that way, not that they worry about the acoustics of those guitars regardless of the top material! |
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Location: Houston, TX | I searched with google ("maple top" acoustic guitar) and found quite a few, but they were the budget imports like Cort, Dillion, Washburn, etc. No idea how they sound - I don't think I've ever played a maple-top acoustic.
By the way, just a thought here - while I think the OFC guitar is a great concept, it is a very difficult endeavor to try to get any sort of agreement on specs. Maybe instead of 1-2 guitars made available to the OFC, it might work better if there was a certain percentage discount for OFC members on a custom order through Al. The OFC inlay/logo could be made available on these guitars, but each individual could choose the spec and decide how much to spend. I don't know if Kaman Music would agree to trimming the margin a bit in this scenario, because they won't be able to realize manufacturing efficiencies in a production run. Again, just a thought. |
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Location: NJ | Years ago, I used to play with a guy who played an all-maple Fender acoustic. It sounded as "vanilla" as it looked.
A very wise man (I forget who) had said that deciding on this guitar would liken to the Tower of Babel.
Al has tried to "simplify" things by setting up a virtual "voting booth" with two levers . . "1" and "2". The result was a plethora of "write-in's" that were never even on the ballot.
Expecting Ovation to offer an across-the-board "discount" on a number of custom orders would probably make us a bigger pain-in-the-ass than we already are. They've got enough on their plate as it is right now just trying to fulfill the demand for the LX's.
They were nice enough to even OFFER a "group rate" on a limited run of TWO (not one) custom guitar(s). With Collector's Editions in the past, you didn't have ANY choice, and you were pretty much getting what was hanging on the walls of music stores nationally, anyway.
It's all relatively simple:
a.) Pick option "1"
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b.) Pick option "2"
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c.) Place a custom order for exactly what you want
or......
4:-) Step away from the keyboard (this is route that I'm taking until I can swing "c.")
Personally (as I've said before), I think that a limited-edition, laser-cut and/or inlay truss rod cover that could be affixed to ANY Ovation (except an old Adamas), sold at a "premium" so that a portion of the proceeds could possibly go to a local worthy New Hartford charity (like maybe a school music program?...).
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Location: Houston, TX | OK, I'm stepping away from the keyboard. I didn't bother to read the numerous posts about "can I get it with this option and this change" but I could see problems developing. I am sure I was speaking out of turn, but it was a sincere effort to simplify things and avoid the bickering over specs.
I didn't think the discount thing all the way through...everyone wanting to order a custom could join here first for the best deal - won't work.
Sorry - see you later- I'm going to Dallas to see Neil Schon, Steve Vai, John McLaughlin, Pat Metheny, Carlos Santana, Larry Carlton, Joe Walsh, BB King, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, ZZTop, etc... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | How about if they would make one with a square brazilian fibreglass back......? |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Funny One Bill!! aLeX would be pleased!
Well then again..maybe not.. I think his specs look pretty good. |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | A lot of the collector's series were panelmasters and lots of owners loved the sound. Were these panelmasters contructed differently from the laminated tops that would be on the typical import?
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Location: 6 String Ranch | no |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | Thanks, cwk2 for as always your willingness to share quick honest answers. I think it should give members pause as they praise their Collector's panelmaster and won't even pick up a Celebrity. Having played the flametop double for a month now, I think the quality of the workmanship and sound of this guitar is terribly underappreciated. (I know this is getting old and is my final word, I swear!) If you want a flametop
a panelmaster is the way to get the awesome look and still a respectable sound. A solid flame top though I think is appealing would probably not sound like it looked.
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Location: NJ | Since there does not seem to be any real interest in this option I will not proceed with getting it priced out.
I will proceed with option one. |
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Location: Huntington Beach, CA | I haven't seen a whole lot of agreement on this board on anything, and now you are asking for at least 12 angry men to agree on a custom design?
I would say you should determine the most sought after Ovation built to date... the one that everyone that knows Ovation is looking for and can't find due to limited supply, and have it made to current production specs (i.e. LX, Op Pro, etc.).
Seems to me that was a slothead something or other, deep bowl, whatever. Ovation has to know what their most popular model EVER is. Ask them to dust off the plans, tool up to spec. and put OFC and Al's signature on the fretboard and make it available to the general public (who will buy anything, right?).
Call it the "Retro" and reserve the first 100 or so to be purchased through Al by members of the OFC. These get a certificate of authenticity and the first 100 in the numbered sequence to boot.
Problem is you will have to get the "experts" in conjunction with the statistics to determine the specifics of the model. Otherwise, you have 1,000 opinions and end up with a hybrid that no one will want. Ever hear about the committee that was formed to develop a better horse? They came up with the camel.
There are those on this board that know "the one" that everyone wants. Confirm their knowledge base (and lust) with Ovation's stats.
Ovation has taken chances and come out with some pretty ridiculous stuff. Why wouldn't they take a chance on a known success, backed by their own fan club?
My only addition to what I have read about this dream guitar is to make it sound good acoustically, whatever that takes. In my experience, they are a "9" plugged in and a "6" unplugged.
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Location: Upper Left USA | It is not yet time for the Harvest.
Next Year will produce more abundant options.
I say wait. |
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OFC guitar option 2