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| On acousticguitar.com someone just posted something about why more Ovations aren't mentioned more on that site. I predict a landslide of comments about twangy sound, tinty sound, bowls falling off laps, etc.. |
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Location: NJ | Surprisingly, the responses have been somewhat "kind". There were no "handsprings and huzzahs", but nobody used the word "suck" (at least not yet). A couple people did use the word "plastic", tho. |
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| Yes, I just posted on that thread and looking at the responses It's not as bad as I was expecting. |
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Location: SoCal | It's an interesting read. The major complaints are ergonomics (it slips off the lap), a prejudice againsts the round back, and the sound.
Can't do much about the first two, and Ovation has been working on the third. I'm encouraged. |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Most of the Posts made are clearly from people who have never given Ovation much of a chance. they are just clearly against the look and feel of the guitars.(Lets be honest..If they were trying a USA Made Ovation with at least a mid-size Bowl-if they were to play one with an open mind,they would find they actually liked the guitar) Like Al say's Ovation Guitars Don't get the respect they Deserve. Ovation is clearly making strides in improving sound quality.And they are constantly working on new ideas and designs. Most of the Members here Love their O's!! I love Mine. I found that after reading the Topic While the posts are not Really bashing..some of them come close. With the exception of some of the OFC members trying to shed some light on the topic. |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | What's the link to the article? |
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Location: NJ | why bother |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Just took a gander in there.
They all need a life!
Not at all like us. |
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Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | Here you go Tim.........
http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017616.html] |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | Trboy,
Thanks.....
looked... and ... agree with Al..... |
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Location: NJ | I guess maybe I'm just one of those ill-mannered children (gee...ya' THINK?) that enjoys "tapping on the glass" and annoying the dim-witted creatures therein. |
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| Cliff, all of the extreme negatives are posted by people for whom today is their first day on that board. My guess is all the comments are from the same person. Happens on message boards of all types (political, legal, video game boards, etc..) all the time. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Until one day you slip and find yourself on the wrong side of the glass...
Bmmmm puh...
Bmmmm puh...
Bmmm puh, bmmm puh, bmmm puh, bmmm puh
I had a very hard time not registering and jumping in!!! |
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Location: NJ | Englishplayer;
Yeah, that makes sense. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Sorry, I got sucked in.
I registered, entered a polite OFC type post, and got flamed instantly. I deleted my post and backed out quietly.
I really like this board.
I really dis-like that board.
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Location: Tampa, Florida | Slipkid,
That place is not usually that fiery. (I'm Alka Seltzer over there, a dig on Seagull guitars, get it?) That one troll jerk "realguitars" or whatever (then he made himself "ovation-lover" and was like "I love my 1990 celebrity") was the problem. Stupid people who suck at playing guitar, so instead of practicing they spend all of their time on the internet talking about playing guitar....umm, I gotta go practice.
I love my Ovation and will play anyone in the ground if they have a problem with it, even Steve Vai or Mr Miagi or something.... |
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Location: south east Michigan | Thanks zchord,
Never the less, I'll just spend my time here.
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Location: NJ | damn the whole thing got pulled before i had a chance to read it.
did anyone save it? |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Hi Al, the link was bad in the other post. Try this.
Wayne
"Not much about Ovation ... " |
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Location: SoCal | That's a very very strange group of people. What I got is that it's ok to be mean, narrow minded, and petty, as long as it's on "their side". To show a strong dissenting opinion is to be disdained and ridiculed.
Sounds like most of the people over there are college professors.
I, for one, am glad that Clifford hangs out on our board --- DUDE! |
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Location: nyc area | I just read the AC thread...as someone who is "out there in the trenches" playing live and performing chop shops in music stores and guitar workshops and festivals I am constantly asked "what do you really play?"....I always reply "i play ovation because no other guitar feels as good, or allows me to change tunings as easily ar takes string guage changes as well... In short, I can only do what I do on ovations..."
the good folks at ovation are passionate and dedicated to reaching new heights of acoustic excellence...im honored to be a part of the family there and here... there will always be ignorance and strong opinions, just as there will always be racism and injustice in this world... play on my brothers and sisters... spread light ...not stupidity...we have enough battles out there... just my 2cents... |
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Location: NJ | Matt
as usual you are a voice of reason.
joining in postive discussion is fine. When it degenerates into a pissing match it is just not worth it.
I read the whole thread before it was edited. Someone was kind enough to send it to me.
For some of our long time members I am surprised you did not pick up on some of the clues. One of the posters made sure to single me out as a corporate shill (we have heard that before haven't we?)
another poster describes his guitar sound as a "cannon" (I think some of you know where I am going)
I would only ask that you respect other boards like you respect ours. Acoustic guitar mag is a good mag hey they even published me !!!
have a good day. |
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Location: nyc area | alpep for president!!!(well maybe secretary of da fence?) |
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Location: NJ | Yeah Al, as things started to denegrate I had picked some of the "clues" as well. Same mastery (or lack thereof) of the English language, and same M.O. that we've seen used before (here). It's sad that someone that smart who does such good and meaningful work has to resort to such childish tactics.
. . . . I guess ya' just have to wish him well and move on . . .
. . . I have. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Soooooo, Dr. He He surfaces again? Such a saunt. |
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Location: Houston, TX | I have always wondered what sort of doctor he might be, and why his guitars are always for sale - but never seem to sell.
I came in after that whole deal, so I don't really know the full deal. Probably best not to go there. |
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Location: Converse, Texas | He could be a PhD instead of an MD -- but, you know, PhD just means Piled Higher and Deeper. |
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Location: Denver, PA USA | I would judt ask them why Ovations are the number One selling guitar. At least they where I was told. Any truth to that?
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Location: SoCal | This is a situation that's just better left alone. I've got better things to do with my time then deal with people like Dr. He He. |
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Location: Central Oregon | Well, we've apparently found Doc & Dopey, where's Sneezy, Sleepy & the rest of 'em?
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Apparently in this case, This guy is all 7 Dwarfs rolled into one! :D |
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Location: Converse, Texas | I count 9 dwarfs:
1) Doc
2) Sleepy
3) Dopey
4) Grumpy
5) Happy
6) Bashful
7) Sneezy
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Location: NJ | the problem over there was identified and my instincts were correct.
don't feed into the mess it only feeds his ego.
remember
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Location: Upper Left USA | I received an email fron Peter Cree trying to give ways to disturb Dr. Elias G. Argyris - Dr. He He? Didn't he just sell an original Slothead to a land far, far away?
I don't agree with the methods, especially if he is attention seeking. I will stay out of it and play this beautiful Custom Legend 12 string I just pulled out of a box via UPS from New Jersey!
I'm going away for a little while, excuse me. Better things to do you know! :D |
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Location: Tennessee | I got one too. I suspect evil trolls with idle time on their hands. |
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Location: SoCal | This guy sent out emails to a lot of us. Just stay away from it and leave the whole thing alone. |
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Location: Florida | I got one too. I looked up that Dr on Google... seems like he's got a brain even if no heart. |
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Location: Vernon, CT | Dr. Frankenstein's creation is alive! :) Play On!
John L.
Std. Balladeer
Legend LX
Celebrity C026
Tornado
Martin D16GT
Takamine 12 string
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Location: Scotland | Leave it, he'll crawl back into his hole until he's given another opportunity, so don't give him one. I cannot believe that a person can be so impotent they get off by stirring up crap on internet message boards. Pathetic & embarrasing. |
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Location: south east Michigan | It seems like this "troll" has a history here. I don't even want to know. I will say that when I hear the name "Dr. HeHe", I picture yet another master criminal from the old Batman series.
"Steady old chum!"
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Location: Warrenton, Virginia | I agree with all said. I read the Acoustic Guitar Thread......bad vibes there....Some guys seemed open minded...but for the most part...negativity oriented.
I like this board...because altho I have been playing the guitar for 45 years and have owned ovations since 69/70,(also own martins/guild/gretsch/fender) I still feel humbled by what I don't know...when I listen to most of the folks on this board. Everytime I have asked a guitar question, I've received help and good advice. Thanks to Jeff/PM/PT/SC/TC/GD and all of the rest I missed. I appreciate being part of the board. |
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| Slap, I have to disagree with you. Generally speaking, the other board is not all that negative. I've learned a lot about guitars and tonewoods there. Also, many have offered some good advice in the playing guitar section as well on that board. There are usually a few strong negatives about Ovation which is why I stated that initial post. I've also heard people state strong negatives on Martin, Taylor, and Gibson there ( it can get a bit confrontational if you take it too seriously), but that board has quite a few people who spend incredible amounts on equipment. So guitars in the Ovation price range can get the short shrift anyway. People do not have to like Ovations in order to have a valid point of view. Also, several first rate luthiers inhabit that board and offer interesting points of view as builders, instead of just players. Many good people on that board just as there are here. |
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Location: Warrenton, Virginia | English Player.
I understand your points. |
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I landslide of Ovation negativity?