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Location: Midland, MI | Looks like he donated it to the Crossroads Centre charity auction (there are some really impressive lots in there). Now, how to explain to SWMBO what I need that 5k for.
Pink Floyds 12-string O
Watch that GAS...
(Oh, and by the way, which one is Pink?)
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Looks to be in great condition. There are also some other very interesting guitars in this auction collection. Price of course is the biggest problem. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I couldn't get it to work either.
Nice guitar though. |
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Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/search/LotDetail.asp?sid=&intObjectID=4303112&SE=CMWCAT04+83099+%2D1026109406+&QR=M+1+1+Aqc0000900+74556++Aqc0000900+&entry=roger+waters&SU=1&RQ= False&AN=2]
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Location: Upper Left USA | Youdaman TRboy. I never could cipher Boolian phrasology. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I think the link is just tooo long... :( bit it works. |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by Standingovation:
Looks to be in great condition. There are also some other very interesting guitars in this auction collection. Price of course is the biggest problem.
Yes, there are quite a few that I wouldn't mind having, but I'd never be able to do them justice. :) I saw Clapton in concert back in the early 90s. Must have been pre-93, because he was still doing the cigarette in the headstock thing. It was a very, very good concert, but seemed way too short. I suppose that's just because it was good. Contrast with the atrocious Jethro Tull concert I went to in the same time frame, which seemed to drag on forever. :D |
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Location: SoCal | In these kinds of auctions, things go for a lot more than anticipated. It's for charity, and people who bid tend to have bucks.
In the first auction, back in 1999, Clapton's first Strat, went for almost half a mil. |
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Location: Vernon, CT | It's just another brick in "The Wall"! :) Play On!
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Location: Scotland | These guitars currently fetch anwhere between $600 & $1200 and are worth every cent. The buyer will need to be one hell of a Roger Water's fan to pay anywhere near the estimate. |
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Location: SoCal | Several years ago I bought a magazine on Eric Clapton and it detailed a number of the guitars that were sold in the first Christie's auction for Crossroads. You'd be absolutely amazed at what some things sold for. Guitars thatwere estimated to sell at $3-$4000 went for $15000 or more. This is not going to be based on reality. I would guess that Blackie will go for $500K to $750K. |
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Location: Scotland | Yeah maybe, but this guitar belongs to Roger Waters, who is not a "guitarist" as such and in terms of celebrity has a way to go before he reaches Clapton's stature. Celebrity ownership is not always a guarantee. Dweezil Zappa had a hard time unloading a Hendrix-owned Strat (slighltly fire-damaged) The other consideration with the Water's guitar is - "it's an Ovation and we all know how crap they are"
"Blackie" will get 6 figures, no problem, the Preacher 12 will struggle, betcha. Or maybe a Clapton-endorsed auction is just like a mink-coated, high-heeled, be-jewelled, Armani-suited version of the "ebay phenomenom" i.e. the ability to sell junk at top-dollar. |
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Location: SoCal | ...version of the "ebay phenomenom" i.e. the ability to sell junk at top-dollar.
It is. The Preacher 12 will go for $5-$7000. |
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Location: Scotland | Great!!!!!!!! Then I should be able to get at least $3K for my Deacon 12!!!!!!!!!. Imagine if Clapton had played a GP for maybe a few seconds. I don't think there'd be a word for a figure with that many zero's. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Has to be the most expensive Preecheur in the world! |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | You would be amazed what a signature is worth to a fan. Make it a signed item with proceeds going to some charity and the sky is the limit. How about $2,500 for an Epiphone SG signed by Buck Dharma and Eric Bloom. The guitar brand spanking new from MF is only $200.00. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | About 6 months ago I bought a '62 Telecaster. It was a nicely worn guitar and would have fetched a pretty high price on ebay. Except that it was autographed on the front by some dill-weed nobody had ever heard of. So the bids were very low. I grabbed it for a fraction of what it was worth. Five seconds with a rag and citrus cleaner took the sharpie autograph right off.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Dave, are you sure that's a '62? Rosewood fingerboards became the almost exclusive norm in '59 replacing the one-piece maple necks, unless it has a maple cap fingerboard, which would make it ultra-rare for that period. I love that weathered old Phender stuff.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Wayne, I don't know much at all about fenders. The serial number is 211620. The ebay posting just said something like "Vintage Autographed Telecaster". I was told by someone who "seemed to know" that it was either '62 or '68. '62 sounds so much "cooler" so that's what I say it is. But who knows. It's a killer guitar. Actually I just put a black pickguard on it and it even looks better still. |
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Location: SoCal | With Fenders, you can't always go by the serial number. They used to just toss 5000 plates into a bin and grab one as needed. You might be more accurate going with guitar features. |
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada | I once saw one of Canada's top jazz guitarists, Ed Bickert, at a club in Toronto. Great smooth, warm jazz tone from his guitar. A big f-hole Gibson? Nope - a beat-up old Tele. |
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Location: SoCal | When a player is really good, it's him you're hearing, not the guitar. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | That explains why nobody notices my guitars. |
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Location: SoCal | Well, I didn't mean to imply that, but..... |
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Location: Warrenton, Virginia | "When a player is really good, it's him you're hearing, not the guitar"
Paul.....I completely concur.
Dave, I like your fender. How much $ did you pay? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | $600. I'll have to post a pic with the black pickguard. Looks way better. |
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Location: Warrenton, Virginia | Dave
Sounds like a good deal...would like to see pic with black guard......how does it note?..sound? |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | So who was the unknown artist ? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I don't know, never heard of him. I think his name was "George Harrison" or "Harriman", or something like that. Maybe some of the younger members will have heard of him, but it didn't ring a bell with me. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Dave, the bridge plate number (not original to that guitar) is '67-'68 alright, but most of the guitar features make it look more like mid 50's, assuming it is more or less original. I would love to see more detailed pics to try to narrow it down.
Have you had it apart? There should be a date on the end of the neck, and even possibly under the bridge pickup. Were there any extra pickguard screws in the body when you changed guards?
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Wayne, The white pickguard (not sure if it was original, but it was on it when I bought the guitar) had 5 screw holes. When I took it off, there were just those 5 holes. But the new black pickguard has 8 holes, so I had to drill a few new ones. But while changing the pickguard I was surprised to notice that the body is routed for a 3rd pickup. I don't remember seeing any dates under the pickguard or pickup area. I'll check the end of the neck sometime as you suggest. For all I know this guitar could be built out of a mish-mosh of old parts. But it seems to play well and sounds fine, although not that I would really know. It didn't come with any case, so I bought a cheap aftermarket hardshell but it's not nearly as nice as a real Fender case. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | '' I think his name was "George Harrison" or "Harriman", or something like that. ''
I assume that was joke. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | No, no joke. I just don't remember. It wasn't all that clear. It looked like it was signed in black Sharpie marker, but it turned somewhat light-grey on the white body of the guitar. The "George" was pretty clear. Last name could have been "Harrmon", but no I think for sure it was "Harrison". I'll do a search on CD-NOW. Maybe someone's name will pop up and it'll all make sense - assuming the guy even had a CD. You never know, he could have just been some local guy. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Well assuming you really are not joking I would guess you washed away about 6 - 10K worth of ink. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Well, I still have the rag. Maybe I could at least get a few hundred for the "Rag that wiped George Harrison's autograph off of a Telecaster". Geezuz Miles, I was just having a little fun with you. Did you think the Phoenix heat fried my brain or something? 107 today. |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | "...about 6 - 10K worth of ink..."
Looks like ya got a live one there, Dave! :)
What ever it is, if it's got that old Tele sound and vibe, you got a good deal. Would like to see the end of that neck though. If what you say about the pickguard screws is correct, then it is definately a 50's Fender or non-Fender (unlikely) body.
Moody PI, what you say about the old bridge plates being made up in batches of 5000 at a time is correct. However, they were distributed among the entire Fender electric line so were used up fairly quickly. Therefore, while numbering was not strictly sequential, it dates old Fenders down to a couple of years and can then be narrowed down further by looking at some other details.
I do love my old '53, it's the one that everything else (electric) gets compared to. Can't imagine ever getting rid of that unless someone were to wisper "slothead" or somesuch into my ear!
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | "I was just having a little fun with you. Did you think the Phoenix heat fried my brain or something?"
I kinda figured, but I talk to enough younger musicians that don't know who half the people are we talk about here.... actually I don't know half the people who are mentioned here, so the thought of someone not knowing George Harrison seems pretty plausable to me. If it ever comes up, where you are talking to someone under 25 that knows George Harrison's name, ask what band he was with. I would guess unless they are into that music, Beatles will not be mentioned. You'll be lucky if Tom Petty and the Traveling Pilsbury's are mentioned. |
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