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Location: Yucaipa, California | I've been noticing a seemingly large number of International Ovationists joining the OFC. :cool: :cool:
Does anyone have any Idea of how Ovation Sales/use compares with Taylors and Martins in the International Market? |
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Location: Midland, MI | I don't (but that never stopped me from commenting before), but I wonder if non-USian guitar players/buyers/collectors/hoarders feel the need to 'Buy American.' I suspect not, but I wonder... |
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Location: SoCal | I know that Adamii are extremely popular in the far east. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Good question. It used to be that about 30% of the Ovations went outside the US. It's been six years and the nonUS mades have grown considerable so who knows of the total produced, how many are in the US and how many outside are now. |
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Location: Phoenix, AZ | Originally posted by cruster:
[QB]I don't (but that never stopped me from commenting before)......
Isn't that part of your ISP's service agreement? I assumed it must be because on most web forums (OFC and some other guitar boards excluded) actually having a lack of knowledge seems to be a prerequisite for volumunous posting. |
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Location: Midland, MI | Originally posted by dmkozak:
Isn't that part of your ISP's service agreement? I assumed it must be because on most web forums (OFC and some other guitar boards excluded) actually having a lack of knowledge seems to be a prerequisite for volumunous posting.
dmkozak-
You mean I've been doing this same thing on *other* boards, as well? Man, it must be a sickness! ;) You should see my in action on usenet!
Wait!!!! Are you stalking me on all the boards I post to regularly????
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Location: Australia | In Australia, Martin seem to be pretty hot right now particularly their lower end stuff.
Taylor have finally become well established and also seem to do fairly well.
As for Ovation, well not many dealers stock them (although I'm seeing more about recently) and the US models are very expensive.
Taylor and Martin both sell better than O's Down Under. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | richardd
It seems like that situation gives you a great opportunity to go out into the Australian world and preach the Ovation gospel. It has always been my theory that the only country in the world that is the mirror image of the United States is Australia. Everything I have seen over the years tells me it is a country with the same values and strengths, Australia has been a U S partner in every war that we have fought since they existed, and even better they seeem to love good beer and food. What can be better than offing a few baddies and relaxing with a Fosters and some steak.
Any how, show your friends our technical excellence with the Ovation line, while we say good bye to your contribution to music, what is left of the BeeGees, IMHO, they were better than the Beatles.
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Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma | Never been to Australia but would love to... I'm sure the marketing machines of Taylor and Martin look at it as a nice fat market... Are there any Australian made guitars that are marketed that match up to Ovation, Martin or Taylor?
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Location: Scotland | Maton are probably the most famous Austrailian guitar manufacturers, they've been around since the mid-1940's.
An Austrailian company called Cole-Clark were exhibiting at NAMM in January. My business partner bought one of their "Fat-Lady" electro-acoustics. All their instruments use native tonewoods. Their Weissenborn lap guitars with Rickenbacker-style horseshoe magnet pickups are very cool. They were showing a skateboard that turned into a lap-steel, which suggests their may be some substance abuse going on in the R&D dept
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Location: Australia | Yep, Maton are a very strong brand in Oz because they basically endorse (supply guitars to) almost every Aussie artist, but to me their guitars are pretty average.
As Paul mentioned, an ex Maton guy has started a new company called Cole Clark guitars which are probably biting into the market for those who want an Australian made guitar.
The problem here with O's is probably the same as in the US, they don't have the John Mayer type of endorsee to give the product some "vibe" in the market place.The American models are also very expensive.
Bailey, I must say I have been to the US many times and always felt very at home. It's alot like Australia in many respects.I'd like to go again soon. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Beltona is also down that way, New Zealand I think. They make reasonable resonators. Never seen one of their guitars but have one of their ukes. Nice workmanship. |
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Location: Scotland | Bill, Steve Evans of Beltona is a Kiwi, but he was based in Leeds, England when he started the company and has only been back in NZ for a few years. My buddy Ralph Bown (one of the best guitar makers on the planet) made a lot of the necks on the early production Beltonas. Beltona did a range of fibreglass 14-fret Duolian-style guitars which were much better than you'd expect. Their Les Paul-shaped P90/Highlander electro-resos are very cool, but not cheap, even when they were based over here. There's also DonMo in Adelaide who makes resonator guitars. A friend of mine has one of his Baritone Tricones. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Sometimes I just enjoy this site too much. It is amazing to hear so much interesting information from accross miles of sea and from a land that is below my feet as I type, and if I could look down I would see the bottom of Richardd's feet as he was typing in his post in broad day light as I sit here in the early morning darkness, and both of us might sigh as we find ourselves being educated by a subject of the Royal yoke that we rejected, lines of history are flashing and blurring like the navigational lines of the "Dune" navigators who had to see into the future to guide their spaceships, a power conferred by the "spice" of Dune. All we have is great beer, ale, and whiskies to help us look back.
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Ovation vsTaylor/Martin in International Sales