Any lawyers out there - I got a couple qu's regarding law school -
ovationluver
Posted 2008-11-26 12:54 PM (#9825)
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if you're thar, pls post or pm (if your in cognito) (spelling - I know!!!)
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-11-26 1:47 PM (#9826 - in reply to #9825)
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If you can't spell any better than that, you'll never make it. Everyone will tell you there's too many lawyers anyway.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2008-11-26 2:04 PM (#9827 - in reply to #9825)
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I agree with Mark.
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sligoman
Posted 2008-11-26 2:39 PM (#9828 - in reply to #9825)
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Especially in the Northwest. What's your question? Remember to get to your point when your not being paid by the hour. I can already tell you the main thing you learn. Get your money up front.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-11-26 3:37 PM (#9829 - in reply to #9825)
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Your honor, we're requesting a delay. We require Mr. Green's presence before we can adequately prepare our case, and we need a bit more time to locate Mr. Green.
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sligoman
Posted 2008-11-26 3:59 PM (#9830 - in reply to #9825)
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Omygod! I haven't heard that in years. That was quite common in the '70's. And the judge usually went for it.
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ovationluver
Posted 2008-11-26 7:28 PM (#9831 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
If you can't spell any better than that, you'll never make it. Everyone will tell you there's too many lawyers anyway.
there no law in idaho, luck to find someone who can read up thar !!
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-11-26 7:40 PM (#9832 - in reply to #9825)
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Tread lightly there, newbie.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-11-26 8:00 PM (#9833 - in reply to #9825)
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Yes, Your Honor, I'll get to the question.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2008-11-26 9:20 PM (#9834 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by ovationluver:
there no law in idaho, luck to find someone who can read up thar !! [/QB]
Perhaps you mean "there is no law in Idaho and you'd be lucky to find someone up there who can read."

I'll leave any further comment on that one to Mark..lol

In any event, I didn't really think that your post was with regard to getting your own ass into law school even though today's affirmative action standards might be ludicrous enough to facilitate same.

What I would say though is that if you have a question then ask it so that people might help you.

Moreover, if you have a legal problem, there may be some type of legal aid institution in your area which is willing to help or at least provide you with a free consultation.

Failing the above there is also craigslist. I see posts on there all the time stating things like "need top lawyer but have no money to pay anything."
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-11-26 9:53 PM (#9835 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by Joe Rotax:
Failing the above there is also craigslist. I see posts on there all the time stating things like
"need top lawyer but have no money to pay anything."
Does That Work?!
If it does, I wish I had thought of that! There are so many times that I could have used that.
(But internet access is kinda difficult from a jail cell. :p )
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-11-26 9:58 PM (#9836 - in reply to #9825)
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Man, if there was ever a post that could use some emoticons, this is it!


;)
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2008-11-26 10:08 PM (#9837 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Does That Work?!
If it does, I wish I had thought of that! There are so many times that I could have used that.
(But internet access is kinda difficult from a jail cell. :p )
Yeah, last time I was arrested was on the way to a Yes concert in Toronto - back then they still used the traditional dispute resolution techniques like bouncin your head of the wall..lol
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an4340
Posted 2008-11-26 11:34 PM (#9838 - in reply to #9825)
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Are you sure it's a lawyer you're needing?
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ovationluver
Posted 2008-11-27 3:54 AM (#9839 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by Joe Rotax:
Originally posted by ovationluver:
there no law in idaho, luck to find someone who can read up thar !!
Perhaps you mean "there is no law in Idaho and you'd be lucky to find someone up there who can read."

I'll leave any further comment on that one to Mark..lol

In any event, I didn't really think that your post was with regard to getting your own ass into law school even though today's affirmative action standards might be ludicrous enough to facilitate same.

What I would say though is that if you have a question then ask it so that people might help you.

Moreover, if you have a legal problem, there may be some type of legal aid institution in your area which is willing to help or at least provide you with a free consultation.

Failing the above there is also craigslist. I see posts on there all the time stating things like "need top lawyer but have no money to pay anything." [/QB]
no legal problems, aside from one bank robery and 3 murders - but who's counting
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ovationluver
Posted 2008-11-27 3:56 AM (#9840 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by an4340:
Are you sure it's a lawyer you're needing?
got a qu about law school - thought about asking my shrink - but he won't talk to me anymore. something about a restraining order

I just wanted to ask some general questions about being a law school student - no biggie
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Losov
Posted 2008-11-27 5:47 AM (#9841 - in reply to #9825)
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Rent "The Paper Chase"
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Waskel
Posted 2008-11-27 8:04 AM (#9842 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by ovationluver:
thought about asking my shrink - but he won't talk to me anymore. something about a restraining order
"My doctors said I was a paranoid sociopath, but they were just out to get me because I threatened to kill them."

Elle Bishop - Heroes
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-11-27 8:20 AM (#9843 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by ovationluver:
I just wanted to ask some general questions about being a law school student - no biggie
Wouldn't ya think you might have better luck and get better info on another website?? I mean, there has to be some sort of lawyer forum out there on the web.
We try to restrict our comments and suggestions to guitars, music in general, and sometimes specific & critical medical advice.
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schroeder
Posted 2008-11-27 8:25 AM (#9844 - in reply to #9825)
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And cars and movies.
And motorcycle routes.
And brands of tequila and ginger beer.
And....
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-11-27 11:19 AM (#9845 - in reply to #9825)
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There's at least one law school professor on these boards.
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ovationluver
Posted 2008-11-27 1:25 PM (#9846 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by Slipkid:
Originally posted by ovationluver:
I just wanted to ask some general questions about being a law school student - no biggie
Wouldn't ya think you might have better luck and get better info on another website?? I mean, there has to be some sort of lawyer forum out there on the web.
We try to restrict our comments and suggestions to guitars, music in general, and sometimes specific & critical medical advice.
I like that line in Xmas vacation movie where chevy chase is accidentally driven UNDER a semi truck tailor, his wife say, your under the trailor - he says, do you honestly think I don't know that? there's a method to my madness - i'm lookin for a 'down to earth' sorta lawyer guy - what better place than the ovation guitar forum, someone who's not so upidy, if you know what I mean.
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-11-27 2:00 PM (#9847 - in reply to #9825)
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From what I understand, all the "upity" lawyers hang out on the Taylor forum.

Maybe I should be askin' for guitar advise on the Porsche forum.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-11-27 2:18 PM (#9848 - in reply to #9825)
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I think we've run most of the lawyers off ... except the ones with Porsches. Ego problems, you see. I'm no lawyer, but I've paid them a lot of money over the years and now have got a couple of them in the family. They can be handy to have around. I know lots of people who went to law school. Not many of them play guitars tho'. Except for the group The Firm, who sued the other group The Firm who was a supergroup but everyone's forgotten them now. I wonder if the original group got their name back now and if they had to pay back the money they got for giving it up in the first place. They probably found a legal way around that, being lawyers and all. Back on subject, I feel as qualified to answer your questions about law school as almost any other off-topic subject that we all take our stabs at here. So fire away. I even met a judge (sort of a super lawyer) who plays guitar over at Moody's house. Two or three times even. Except now that I think about it, he had a Martin. A nice one. He probably hangs out on the Martin board.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-11-27 2:48 PM (#9849 - in reply to #9825)
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I've known and worked for lawyers until I'm sick of lawyers.

Actually, most of them are pretty decent people. Like everybody else, there are good ones, bad ones, and ugly ones.

I do know one lawyer who was proud of owning an expensive Taylor and thought it was a good thing that he kept it carefully in it's case and didn't play it much.

I don't work for him anymore. We had some conflict issues......
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sligoman
Posted 2008-11-27 3:15 PM (#9850 - in reply to #9825)
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I have a partner who had an Alvarez and replaced it with a Taylor which he doesn't play much. But he plays heck out of his 3 strats and a Les Paul. He'd probably tell you to go to medical school. As would I.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-11-27 3:23 PM (#9851 - in reply to #9825)
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I know more lawyers who are trying to get out of that field.

If you want to be a doctor or a lawyer, get into it because you love the work. It's very difficult to make a lot of money in either profession these days. And by and large, in either field, you start out, financially, in the hole with student loans up the wazoo......
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ovationluver
Posted 2008-11-28 4:35 AM (#9852 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I've known and worked for lawyers until I'm sick of lawyers.

Actually, most of them are pretty decent people. Like everybody else, there are good ones, bad ones, and ugly ones.

I do know one lawyer who was proud of owning an expensive Taylor and thought it was a good thing that he kept it carefully in it's case and didn't play it much.

I don't work for him anymore. We had some conflict issues......
what did you do for lawyers (hitman)?
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ovationluver
Posted 2008-11-28 4:37 AM (#9853 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by sligoman:
I have a partner who had an Alvarez and replaced it with a Taylor which he doesn't play much. But he plays heck out of his 3 strats and a Les Paul. He'd probably tell you to go to medical school. As would I.
actually- I was thinking more along the line of a paralegal job
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ovationluver
Posted 2008-11-28 4:43 AM (#9854 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
I think we've run most of the lawyers off ... except the ones with Porsches. Ego problems, you see. I'm no lawyer, but I've paid them a lot of money over the years and now have got a couple of them in the family. They can be handy to have around. I know lots of people who went to law school. Not many of them play guitars tho'. Except for the group The Firm, who sued the other group The Firm who was a supergroup but everyone's forgotten them now. I wonder if the original group got their name back now and if they had to pay back the money they got for giving it up in the first place. They probably found a legal way around that, being lawyers and all. Back on subject, I feel as qualified to answer your questions about law school as almost any other off-topic subject that we all take our stabs at here. So fire away. I even met a judge (sort of a super lawyer) who plays guitar over at Moody's house. Two or three times even. Except now that I think about it, he had a Martin. A nice one. He probably hangs out on the Martin board.
I have to admit, after reading your comment my head hirts.

it's a curious thing, but there's a ton of what seem to be very good Law Bar review materials out there - I was curious about supplementing some paralegal training with those materials. Examples are: BARBRI, PMBR, Fleming, Sum & Substance - almost seems like you could learn everything about lawyering from you home. too bad they make you go to ABA law school - they didn't use to do that. Neither Abe Lincoln and Clarence Darrel graduated from law school.
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ovationluver
Posted 2008-11-28 4:46 AM (#9855 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by Losov:
Rent "The Paper Chase"
was thinking about "my cousin vinnie" :)
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Losov
Posted 2008-11-28 7:12 AM (#9856 - in reply to #9825)
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Look at the reality of being an associate. Intern at a big firm, or get a job in the mail room of one. See what these kids do. It does NOT involve much crossing of witnesses and reducing them to tears on the stand. It does involve being pretty much chained to your desk.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-11-28 10:30 AM (#9857 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:

If you want to be a doctor or a lawyer, get into it because you love the work.
I think that is the best advice in general. Get into a field because you like the work, and you like the other quality of life aspects of it.

Do you like to control your schedule? Do you like to have weekends off? Do you want to make money, and don't mind working long hours? Do you work best alone on a detailed task, or do you thrive in a busy environment? Do you want to be self employed? Do you want to work in a large corporation environment, or do you like the small family business atmosphere?

Once you have a real idea of what your personal priorities and desires are, short and long term, you can more accurately analyze what kinds of jobs or careers are a good candidate for you.
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an4340
Posted 2008-11-28 11:12 AM (#9858 - in reply to #9825)
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If you want a paralegal job, then apply for one. You could probably do it part time. If you like it, then you'll have to decide if you want to do litigation or corporate, and if you want to work in the private sector or government. I know some paralegals who work in the corporate sector, private and make good money, and don't have the stress that the lawyers have. On the other hand, those guys on wall street are cutting back. Maybe, you could try a bankruptcy firm, or legal aide or maybe, with the feds, they're going to need a bunch of legal people to clean up this bail-out mess. That's probably what I would aim for, or law enforcement. This advise just pertains if you want a job, not meant as career advise. Suerte.
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-11-28 12:03 PM (#9859 - in reply to #9825)
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Don't do what you want to do.
Do what you HAVE to do.

Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is finding out what the hell that is. Few take the challenge.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2008-11-29 12:19 PM (#9860 - in reply to #9825)
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Originally posted by ovationluver:


there's a ton of what seem to be very good Law Bar review materials out there - I was curious about supplementing some paralegal training with those materials.

- almost seems like you could learn everything about lawyering from you home. too bad they make you go to ABA law school

- they didn't use to do that. Neither Abe Lincoln and Clarence Darrel graduated from law school.
Bar ad material can be very useful.

You will not learn everything that you need to know through home study.

The practice of law has changed a lot since Lincoln and Darrow were at it.
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ovationluver
Posted 2008-12-02 8:23 PM (#9861 - in reply to #9825)
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thanks for input guys - (except fillhixx) :)
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-12-02 8:29 PM (#9862 - in reply to #9825)
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One thing that keeps me from going in the Legal-business is I think they would check your past criminal records. That kind of closed mindedness would probably limit my prospects. Even though I have acted as my own lawyer a bunch of times, and got outta doing time! (Better than a Public Defender)

You figure that kind of previous experience would be a Plus... But Nooooo! :mad:

[So Ovationluver, ya' gonna go see Damon perform?]
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