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lanaki
Posted 2008-12-02 11:11 AM (#9059)
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antivirus for macs
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stephent28
Posted 2008-12-02 11:14 AM (#9060 - in reply to #9059)
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cracks in the plaster
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-12-02 11:31 AM (#9061 - in reply to #9059)
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This is true.

It had been predicted for a long time that once Apple reached 'critical mass' the virus makers would start spending some time aiming their ills in that direction.

MARKET SHARE
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stephent28
Posted 2008-12-02 11:36 AM (#9062 - in reply to #9059)
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I see the iPhone is making it's move.

My son just got blacklisted by me. He called and told me that he bought a MacBook Pro (??) so I could have his PC laptop. His reasoning was that all the professionals in the Film/Video world used Macs and he needed to get with the program.

Sucker
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-12-02 11:37 AM (#9063 - in reply to #9059)
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-12-02 11:47 AM (#9064 - in reply to #9059)
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Come on Stephen, truth is he just wanted to be "cool".
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stephent28
Posted 2008-12-02 11:57 AM (#9065 - in reply to #9059)
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Which is why he hides inside a dinosaur suit. ;)

He told me the other day that he is not going to renew his contract in April cause he wants to get back to acting on stage and film.

I asked him if he was sure he wanted to give up that high paying gig with the economy in the toilet.

He said he wasn't worried cause I still have a spare bedroom.

Smartass
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-12-02 12:07 PM (#9066 - in reply to #9059)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
cracks in the plaster
I grow more concerned about your mental stability each passing day.
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-12-02 12:14 PM (#9067 - in reply to #9059)
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Is it time to start the "When's T gonna crack?" pool yet?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-12-02 12:26 PM (#9068 - in reply to #9059)
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I'm in . . .

Fiddy bucks sez: March 27, 2009...

Initating Cause:
Welch's Strawberry Jam fingerprints on his Collings OM.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-12-02 12:41 PM (#9069 - in reply to #9059)
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I'd be much more concerned if you had mentioned March 20-21 for the day of the jam fingerprints.

Now I know you were just kidding!
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-12-02 12:45 PM (#9070 - in reply to #9059)
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EDIT:

March 21, 2009
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Waskel
Posted 2008-12-02 12:51 PM (#9071 - in reply to #9059)
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Too late. Stephen, expect an unsightly package on your doorstep the week following your return from FL.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-12-02 12:57 PM (#9072 - in reply to #9059)
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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
expect an unsightly package on your doorstep
Jeff-In-The-Box :eek:
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Waskel
Posted 2008-12-02 1:38 PM (#9073 - in reply to #9059)
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Stand waaaaay back when it pops open.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-12-02 1:55 PM (#9074 - in reply to #9059)
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"all the professionals in the Film/Video world used Macs and he needed to get with the program."

I'm just offering up that he should verify comments like that and note the word "used" not "use". I know enough "professionals in the Film/Video world" who do not. One actually goes as far as having a mac setup in their front office that the clients see, but the actual data editing, post and such is done on linux boxes and pc's in the back.

But back to the spirit of this thread.. yes indeed. I posted an article a couple of months ago on this very subject. MAC users in general are becoming a target of identity theft because they have been living with a false sense of security for so long many do not have a concept of computer security. Now that the MAC world has grown, hackers and malware engineers see fresh meat.

And what's wrong with having one just cause they're cool? I think MAC's are great if they do what you need and you can afford one.

FWIW from the article "years of boasting about the Mac's near invincibility," is very misleading. A MAC is no harder to hack or hijack than any other op system. But why spend time writing a hack for 1000's of computers when you can write one for millions. That is the ONLY reason there hasn't been widespread attacks on MACS HOWEVER!!!! in capitals HOWEVER, the capability to do some pretty nasty stuff to MACS is out there. They are just waiting for enough units to be in use to make it worthwhile and not "blow their cover" so to speak.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-12-02 3:20 PM (#9075 - in reply to #9059)
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used to use ;)

can't tell kids anything. He plans to be in front of the camera so I really don't get his concern but it's his money.
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dvd
Posted 2008-12-02 3:22 PM (#9076 - in reply to #9059)
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err.. Apple quietly updates an 18-month old knowledgebase article to reflect newer versions of antivirus software

I know, not as sexy of a headline. Apple has been (wisely) recommending antivirus software for quite some time.

Oh, and Greg, don't buy a Mac. ;)
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-12-02 3:34 PM (#9077 - in reply to #9059)
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People are gonna buy the best tool for the job. Mac is very much like Ovation, very small customer base but fiercely loyal. It's never gonna be main stream and to most fans that's just fine. The last thing I wanna see is my crusty old grey haired insurance agent pulling out a MacBook to give me a quote. Sorta like seeing Willie Nelson play an Elite-T. It just ain't right.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-12-02 3:38 PM (#9078 - in reply to #9059)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
He said he wasn't worried cause I still have a spare bedroom.

Smartass
This is why, as soon as the kids move-out, you should move to the one-bedroom condo of your choice.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-12-02 3:40 PM (#9079 - in reply to #9059)
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OH! And if you have noticed a sudden upsurge in Mac users, I have a one word answer...

Vista!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-12-02 3:49 PM (#9080 - in reply to #9059)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Originally posted by stephent28:
a spare bedroom.

This is why, as soon as the kids move-out, you should...
...convert that bedroom into a full blown music studio. "Sorry son..." :D
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stephent28
Posted 2008-12-02 6:12 PM (#9081 - in reply to #9059)
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Already go the music room/recording studio for me and one of the other bedrooms has been converted into my wife's "Doll Room".

That still leaves a couple that she insists as keeping "for family members and guests". I disagree and would happily put guests up at a hotel but some arguments aren't worth fighting over.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-12-02 6:22 PM (#9082 - in reply to #9059)
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I went from a 2700sf, 6 bedroom, 3 bath house to a 1400sf, 3 bedroom, 1 bath house. 1 bedroom is my music/computer room and another is her ebay stock/shipping room.

That neatly solved the potential 'moving back in' problem. Neither of my daughters seems interested in sleeping in the garage.


... I lost track. Exactly how did we get here from Apples' security issues?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-12-02 6:38 PM (#9083 - in reply to #9059)
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If you visit my Mom's house, after the first 12 hours you are no longer a "Guest"...
Do some dishes, fire-up the lawnmower, change some oil... Do something.

"I lost track. Exactly how did we get here from Apples' security issues?"
We all have PC's and McAfee & Firefox work just fine. :cool:

[Stay away from P2P file-sharing/movie-stealing and you will be just fine!]
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-12-02 8:45 PM (#9084 - in reply to #9059)
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Oh no , and I was about to treat myself to a MAC comp. , I` ve been told that it`s The Best for graphics , so wanted one to use for electronic photography , I was actually negotiating about it , even today... and therefore I let go of an offer for a beautyful SJ -200 from 1997 , not a scratch on it ( belonged to a rec. studio ) , figuring I had more use for that MAC. ,..

Vic

..stupid stupid stupid..
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schroeder
Posted 2008-12-04 12:02 PM (#9085 - in reply to #9059)
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I've got McAfee Antivirus installed. Being Unix Leopard is inherently safer than Windows but there's no OS that's immune to the maliciousidiots/geniuses out there.
Seems like the sensible thing to do.
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lanaki
Posted 2008-12-04 12:22 PM (#9086 - in reply to #9059)
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and now they are backpedaling
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-12-04 1:18 PM (#9087 - in reply to #9059)
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On second thought they decided that the incentive money thrown at them by Norton and McAffee wasn't worth it. Probably a wise decision. Why screw with a good thing.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-12-04 2:46 PM (#9088 - in reply to #9059)
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A lot of mixed messages in that article.

"While Mac-directed exploits are certainly possible, they're not that likely. With Apple nabbing only 9 percent of the overall PC market, there isn't enough incentive for hackers to unleash an outbreak of Mac malware"

Excellent statement

"until there is a confirmed outbreak... ...users can rest easy."

POOR ADVICE. It was that mentality, and THE SAME QOUTE (from FEMA and Centers for Disease Control) that caused so many people to die from Anthrax in the Washington DC area a few years ago.

Granted computer malware is NOT anything like what happened back then, but the mentality of "we'll worry about it after it happens" sickens me, especially when related to safety and security.

Essentially what they are saying is... after you get your identity stolen, credit ruined, and all of your money (for those that have any) removed from your bank account... you should then start using prudent security practices.

E'ffn MORONS!!!!!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-12-04 3:16 PM (#9089 - in reply to #9059)
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But Apple/Mac users are just Nicer People!
Therefore they would not create a virus for Mac.

Don't you watch the ads?
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schroeder
Posted 2008-12-04 3:23 PM (#9090 - in reply to #9059)
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It's true arthur - toby, jeff, muzza, me - the list is almost endless.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-12-04 3:33 PM (#9091 - in reply to #9059)
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I wish some of the women I've been with felt likewise....

Now, where'd I put that ointment!?
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Waskel
Posted 2008-12-04 3:43 PM (#9092 - in reply to #9059)
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Should have used a firewall...
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MWoody
Posted 2008-12-04 3:47 PM (#9093 - in reply to #9059)
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Had an infectious smile, did she?
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-12-04 3:55 PM (#9094 - in reply to #9059)
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If general percentages hold, there's probably about 500 or so OFC members using Macs. Mac will never dominate the world, nor will it go away. To each his own ...
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MWoody
Posted 2008-12-04 4:43 PM (#9095 - in reply to #9059)
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Statisticaly speaking half of us are below average anyway.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-12-04 4:48 PM (#9096 - in reply to #9059)
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If you take into account those with multiple personalities it's more like 67%.
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MWoody
Posted 2008-12-04 5:02 PM (#9097 - in reply to #9059)
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Did you have to take a vote before deciding to say that?
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-12-04 5:14 PM (#9098 - in reply to #9059)
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I and I say "Jam mon man."
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Waskel
Posted 2008-12-04 5:32 PM (#9099 - in reply to #9059)
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Cliff: Interesting little article here. It says that, uh... the average human being only uses seventeen percent of his brain. Boy, you realize what that means? We don't use a full, uh... sixty-four percent.
Norm: Some don't use even more.
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