Let's hear it for drummers
Tony PD
Posted 2004-12-28 10:17 PM (#167850)
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I know, I know. This is a website for guitarists. But being a frustrated ex-drummer, I appreciate good drumming when I hear it. My favorite drummers (in no particular order):

Neil Peart (Rush)
Carl Palmer (ELP)
Alan White (Yes)
Terry Bozzio (UK, Missing Persons)
Keith Moon (The Who)
Stewart Copeland (The Police)
John Bonham (Led Zeppelin)
Mark Brzezicki (Big Country)
Bill Ward (Black Sabbath)
Jerry Gaskill (King's X)
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Paul Wag
Posted 2004-12-28 11:44 PM (#167851 - in reply to #167850)
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stephent28
Posted 2004-12-29 1:41 AM (#167852 - in reply to #167850)
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Love the stuff that Terry Bozzio did with Missing Persons and Frank Zappa.

Also Neil Peart, Jerry Gaskill, and Stewart Copeland solo stuff.
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innerman
Posted 2004-12-29 6:58 AM (#167853 - in reply to #167850)
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Have you ever heard of Jack Carter Kent? The guy is 5 years old and is already pretty impressive with the sticks. No formal instruction, he just started banging around on stuff one day with some sticks, then saw Peart on the Rush in Rio DVD and was mesmerized and started trying to copy him. As the story goes, the next thing that happened was he went with his dad to a jam session with some friends and climbed up on the throne during a break and started beatin on the pro set. Kid is a natural from what I hear. The dad's friends were impressed and let him borrow a back-up kit for the kid to use at home. Can do a great 4/4 beat, right hand nailing four on the hi-hat and the left hand catching the snare. Evidently he plays standing up so that he can get the bass going with the right foot and hold down the hi-hat with the left as well. Last I heard he has ben making up his own rythms in his head and then calling his dad out to the garage to listen to them while he practices them.

Yeah, he's my son.
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Beal
Posted 2004-12-29 7:16 AM (#167854 - in reply to #167850)
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-12-29 7:25 AM (#167855 - in reply to #167850)
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alpep
Posted 2004-12-29 7:51 AM (#167856 - in reply to #167850)
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cliff
Posted 2004-12-29 7:58 AM (#167857 - in reply to #167850)
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Jim Keltner
Russ Kunkel
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innerman
Posted 2004-12-29 9:54 AM (#167858 - in reply to #167850)
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Kunkel...is that the guy from the early JT days?
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-12-29 9:58 AM (#167859 - in reply to #167850)
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cliff
Posted 2004-12-29 10:20 AM (#167860 - in reply to #167850)
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". . Kunkel...is that the guy from the early JT days? . ."

ding!ding!ding!

Kunkel also provided "Percussive Pyrotechnics" (quote from album credit) on the first couple Harry Chapin albums. He was also a member of a group of musicians that became known as "The Section" (Danny "Kootch" Kortchmar/guitar, Leland Sklar/bass, Craig Doerge/keys, and David Lindley . . as "the Beaver";-). Basically the band that was on Jackson Browne's "Running On Empty" album. Also various Crosby&Nash albums/tours, James Taylor, and Carly Simon (not positive, but I believe Master Kunkel at one time was married to Carly . . . NICE!!). He's mostly known as a producer now (co-wrote/produced the last few Jimmy Buffett albums). I was pleasantly surprised to see him behind the kit at a Graham Nash show at TownHall in NY about a year ago.
I've seen him a BUNCH of times over the years, and he truly is a Master of His Craft.

(my first foray into "playing" music was when I was a little kid and I'd sneak in "sessions" on my older brother's set of Ludwigs while he was at work - back at the height of "Beatlemania" - always fancied myself as a bit of a "frustrated drummer" as well.
. . . probably why my guitar playing is so "percussive" . . . and why I keep busting strings) . . . :rolleyes:
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Paul Wag
Posted 2004-12-29 2:23 PM (#167861 - in reply to #167850)
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-12-29 2:40 PM (#167862 - in reply to #167850)
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Neal Pert
Buddy Rich
Gary Burghoff (yes Radar)
Mic Fleetwood

and more recently..

Jules Radino
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Beal
Posted 2004-12-29 3:03 PM (#167863 - in reply to #167850)
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And let's not forget Don Henley.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-12-29 3:24 PM (#167864 - in reply to #167850)
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"And let's not forget Don Henley."

But I was trying so hard to forget him... :)

But Phil Collins I like too.
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Beal
Posted 2004-12-29 7:13 PM (#167865 - in reply to #167850)
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Funny how they both turned out to be better singers than drummers.
Harvey Mason still gets it. Lots of fun on the golf course too.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2004-12-29 8:16 PM (#167866 - in reply to #167850)
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I can't believe no one said Ringo. He was a singer, too. ;)

His son is not too shabby, either. Zak Starkey was mentored by none other than Keith Moon, and has been the tour and session drummer for The Who for at least the last 10 years, including the solo work of Entwistle, Daltry and Townsend. Pete Townsend has said that he'll hear Zak launch into a Keith solo and say "My God, it's him!" He's also been beating the skins for Oasis for the past couple of years.

The other drummer deserving of mention is Charlie Watts, especially and including his jazz work outside of the Stones.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-12-29 8:22 PM (#167867 - in reply to #167850)
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Karen Carpenter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

only joking.

We did a show recently with a band who had Jon Bonham's son Jason as their drummer. Not a single chromosome of his fathers percussive talent has been passed down. What a fucking klutz.
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-12-29 8:29 PM (#167868 - in reply to #167850)
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Simon Phillips. Saw him play with The Who. Incredible technician. Moon would have been jealous.

Chester Thompson. His live work with Genesis was subtle but superb. The duets with Collins were the highlights of the show.

Joe Franco of The Good Rats. Not sure what ever happened to him but he was very impressive.

Jonathon Mover of GTR. Never heard of him before or after but for one tour he was great. Sorta like Yes meets Metallica.

Peter Criss of KISS. Under the makeup was as solid of a rocker as anyone in the day.

Mickey Dolenz of The Monkees. No Joke. The timpani solo on Tapioca Thunder still haunts me.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-12-29 8:43 PM (#167869 - in reply to #167850)
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That would be Tapioca Tundra, written by Michael Nesmith. The Timpani thing was "Randy Scouse Git" AKA "Alternate Title"

As much as I'm a huge Monkees fan I've never considered Dolenz as anything but a bit-part actor who had a vaguely interesting singing style. A drummer he certainly wasn't
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-12-29 9:49 PM (#167870 - in reply to #167850)
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Paul, for gods sake it was a JOKE. Even though I said NO JOKE. You're right about the song title. My Monkee memory is a bit slower than yours.
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Paul Wag
Posted 2004-12-29 11:12 PM (#167871 - in reply to #167850)
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Bradley
Posted 2004-12-29 11:46 PM (#167872 - in reply to #167850)
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I don't know his name but the drummer Paul McCartney used on his tour was fantastic.

I also give a vote to Dave Clark.
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Bailey
Posted 2004-12-30 1:22 AM (#167873 - in reply to #167850)
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I'm impressed by ZZTop's drummer, mainly because he still seems to get it on after many years.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-12-30 3:54 AM (#167874 - in reply to #167850)
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Having played the snare drum for over 11 years and I guess actually drumming before I started guitar when I was 6, I have a soft spot for drummers. One of those instruments that you have to be very expressive to even get noticed, yet, if you are noticed, you are usually doing something wrong. A very fine line indeed. People like Neal Pert, RIngo Starr, Charlie Watts and even yes Karen Carpenter are all players that fit what they are playing. Karen couldn't sit in for Neal, but then again, Carpenters songs would sound pretty odd with Pert behind the kit. Max Weinberg is a hoot to watch. I really can't decide how good he is as a technical drummer, but he sure makes drumming look cool. Bun E. Carlos, Ringo Starr, and Billy Gibbons, and the guy from AC/DC, pretty straight forward drummers, but I can't think of anyone else who would sound better doing what they do. Diehard BOC fans love Albert Bouchard. He approached drumming like Sinatra approched singing. The beat is something to play with, you dance around it to keep time. I prefer Rick Downey or the current Jules Radino. Both straight forward heavy hitters, but with a talent for subtle nuance. Tommy Lee, again maybe not the best technician in town, but I don't know anyone else that can spin and rotate in a cage and still manage to hit anything, let alone play in time. Gina Shock, was the perfect fit for the GoGO's. Met her at NAMM once with Al, she's still a Go GO at heart. Joey Kramer I never put much stock in, but after I met him and also bought a CD of loops, at NAMM, I got to listening a little closer and he really is the glue that holds Aerosmith together. Was very obvious at a concert I saw two summers ago too, he drives the train and Steven and Joe get on and off the ride as they go along.

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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-12-30 4:20 AM (#167875 - in reply to #167850)
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Dave, maybe I'm losing my sense of irony, I completely misinterpreted the phrase "No Joke"
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jimdad
Posted 2004-12-30 6:20 AM (#167876 - in reply to #167850)
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As a non-drummer and having just received as a Christmas present the Beach Boys "Good Timing" DVD of their performance in the UK at Knebworth in 1980 can I put in a word for Denis Wilson? The most bizarre drumming I've ever seen annd yet strangely appropriate. At one point in the middle of Surfin' USA he tucks his drumsticks under his arms for what seems like an eternity yet still comes back in on beat.

He may not be the best but he is pure entertainment on that DVD. I suspect that if i'd had half of what he had I wouldn't have been able to sit on the stool ever mind hold a set of drumsticks.
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NostrAdamas
Posted 2004-12-30 6:45 AM (#167877 - in reply to #167850)
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charlie watts, he just keeps getting better and better! im kiddin' bill bruford,phil collins....
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Beal
Posted 2004-12-30 7:05 AM (#167878 - in reply to #167850)
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Pete Escovido and while we're here his two sons and daughter, Shelia.
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BruDeV
Posted 2005-01-05 1:31 AM (#167879 - in reply to #167850)
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Posted 2005-01-05 9:26 AM (#167880 - in reply to #167850)
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Ok - drummers:

ditto on Mitch Mitchell and Ginger Baker.

I'd like to mention BJ Wilson of Procol Harum.

Where would we be without Ringo?

Completely agree with the inclusion of Keith Moon.

Heck - I'm even partial to Corky Laing's double bass and cowbell sound...

For Jazz - give me Danny Richmond, with Charlie Mingus - a definitive pairing.

But back to rock etc: I have the lingering feeling that Rock drumming never recovered from Disco. Prior to that, many bands had distinctively identifiable drummers. Listen to the folks I've mentioned above:

Mitch Mitchell - some of the nicest brush work you'll ever hear on a "Rock" album - and always dancing around - light as a feather, even when he gets heavy - always light on his feet.

Ginger Baker - doggone it, just listen to White Room - he's all around the downbeats - love those rolls!

BJ Wilson - as close an fusion of orchestral percussion and "Rock" drumming (again the quotes) as you'll ever find.

I use the quotes around "Rock" because there simply wasn't a single, monolithic "Rock" drummer sound - there was a great diversity of sounds.

After Disco, they all sounded the same.
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alpep
Posted 2005-01-05 9:34 AM (#167881 - in reply to #167850)
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cliff
Posted 2005-01-05 9:38 AM (#167882 - in reply to #167850)
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The chick from Josie and the Pussycats . . .

. . . the cartoon one.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-01-05 9:38 AM (#167883 - in reply to #167850)
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Hal Blaine.

Did somebody mention Buddy Rich? If not, should have.
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dcrunner
Posted 2005-01-05 3:32 PM (#167884 - in reply to #167850)
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Neil Peart - Rush
John Bonham - Led Zepplin
Ginger Baker - Cream
Keith Moon - Who
Terry Bozzio - Zappa, Jeff Beck
Bill Bruford - Yes
Danny Carey - Tool (my personal favorite drummer)
Mike Portnoy - Dream Theater
Ian Paice - Deep Purple
Carl Palmer - ELP

That should do it.
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