Worship Group Ovations
kkyle
Posted 2005-02-01 8:15 AM (#164876)
Subject: Worship Group Ovations


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Is it my imagination or do Ovations have the market in worship groups? My first first-hand experience with an Ovation was in church. Can anybody venture a guess pertaining to their dominance there?
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2005-02-01 8:24 AM (#164877 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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I've notice the same... I use mine in Church and a friend now uses his Elite T(Pewter) instead of his straight accoustic Yamahondaha... perhaps it's the beauty of the "plugged in" ability that Ovation has. With the inherent problems found in most Church PA Systems, the Ovations make the "mix" and life so much easier than the "competition"...
...dos centavos...
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LoJoe
Posted 2005-02-01 8:30 AM (#164878 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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I was using an Alvarez AJ-60 Jumbo for a few years. It sounded great unplugged but it just didn't seem to have any life to it plugged in. I picked up the 1771-LX last year and the first time I played it, the sanctuary seemed filled with sound. Even the sound guy was very impressed. Our other guitarist plays a Takamine and while I think he has a slight edge on the unplugged side, I definitely kick his arse when we're plugged in. I'm currently working on a solo of "Offering" by Paul Baloche. We did a practice run in the Sanctuary Sunday night and the Ovation seems to sing right along with me.
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Steve
Posted 2005-02-01 8:32 AM (#164879 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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I always used my O's in church, especially after I discovered the 'feedback buster'...

steve
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LoJoe
Posted 2005-02-01 8:47 AM (#164880 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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What is the "Feedback Buster"? I'm currently using a Boss AD-3, which works very nicely MOST of the time.


Edit: Nevermind! Found it on the net.
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MWoody
Posted 2005-02-01 9:29 AM (#164881 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations



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I heard some guy say that these Ovations are "good deals" (affordable, available).

They take punishment and they perform well!

It was good to see there was a new Ovation ad showing up in Worship Musician magazine. I see a definite market niche.

There are several O players at my church as well.
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Steve
Posted 2005-02-01 9:40 AM (#164882 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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..hi lojoe, there may be different kinds of feedback busters, but mine is basically just a circular rubber sound-hole plug...i think there are even little mini-plugs used in the adamas style guitar tops..

steve
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Paulcc1
Posted 2005-02-01 9:43 AM (#164883 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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One of the many reasons I bought my Ovation is that no other guitar could supply the tone and sound for the church size. After all beauty isnt everything :cool: RIGHT :(
Paul
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LoJoe
Posted 2005-02-01 9:55 AM (#164884 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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Originally posted by Steve:
..hi lojoe, there may be different kinds of feedback busters, but mine is basically just a circular rubber sound-hole plug...i think there are even little mini-plugs used in the adamas style guitar tops.. steve


Thanks Steve,

I found two kinds:

The rubber ones HERE

And some fancy ones HERE

I may check out the cheaper rubber one since it's a very small investment if I don't like it.
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Legend-LX-Fan
Posted 2005-02-01 10:18 AM (#164885 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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I have been a music minister at church since I was 15 years old. I have always used Ovations. They just work so well played through a PA system. I have played with other people who have had many types of guitars, but they can't compare to an Ovation plugged in.
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kkyle
Posted 2005-02-01 10:59 AM (#164886 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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So... it's not just my imagination. Is this a sort of well known observation,stereotype? I'm a newbie to Ovations, so excuse me if this is old news.
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Steve
Posted 2005-02-01 12:08 PM (#164887 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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hi again lojoe, cool, i've never seen the specific frequency feedback buster's before, didn't know there was such an animal, i guess it's just another way of 'fine tuning'...

steve
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ChatMan
Posted 2005-02-01 12:35 PM (#164888 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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My experience is that you can't touch Ovation for the price (certainly in the fleabay realm). Add to this the simplicity of connecting to a PA system and you end up with an irresistable combination for us Sunday morning hymn hackers.
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cliff
Posted 2005-02-01 12:35 PM (#164889 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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I don't think it's so much "frequency-specific" as it is "sensitivity". The ones with the LEAST amount of openings in the pattern would offer the greatest amount of feedback protection (and conversely, would hinder your overall "unplugged" sound more).

My CBalladeer used to feedback like crazy when I played in a 4pc. band with a loud bassplayer. The rubber plug pretty much eliminated it completely. Consequently, it had minimal volume when playing unplugged (but made for a good "late night practice" guitar ;-)
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Steve
Posted 2005-02-01 12:43 PM (#164890 - in reply to #164876)
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hi cliff, i agree, it's probably better described as 'broad-based frequency' or 'frequency-general'...something like that...frequency-relative' maybe...we know how sound systems can get a little tedious sometimes..

steve
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Steve
Posted 2005-02-01 12:50 PM (#164891 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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hey lojoe, i just listened to 'walk by faith' was that you on the lead guitar?...

steve
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LoJoe
Posted 2005-02-01 1:12 PM (#164892 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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I wish!!

I'm on bass and vocals. The guitar work on both the acoustic intro and the electric breakout was done by our old music leader Dave Moody. He's just a little better guitar player than I am. He plays a Guild though so that doesn't count. :D It is one of my favorite songs that we do though. The congregation finds it impossible to sit still when we play it. Dave has moved on to other ministries now and I do get to play guitar and sing lead when we do it. Probably not as flashy as he could though.
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Steve
Posted 2005-02-01 1:34 PM (#164893 - in reply to #164876)
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Actually, I liked the acoustic guitar intro better than anything else, you could have stayed with an acoustic arrangement throughout and it would have been just as inspiring...did you guys mix all your own arrangments?...

steve
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BigBearCarolina
Posted 2005-02-01 2:28 PM (#164894 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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LoJoe. You mean Dave Moody of Carlton Moody and the Moody Brothers? I used to listen to those 2, along with their little brother Trent years ago at the old Hobo Eatery on Central. They played there, or at the Boar's Head restaurant, and we listened to them nearly every weekend. I even had a couple of their old albums somewhere. Brings back old times!
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LoJoe
Posted 2005-02-01 2:30 PM (#164895 - in reply to #164876)
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We did that as part of a 10 song promo CD. It was done at Dave Moody's studio Lamon Records. We use the CD as part of our get aquainted package that we drop on unsuspecting peoples door knobs in new housing developments etc. They get an overview of the church, a CD of a sermon and a music CD. Kind of a try it before you try it thing. Dave added the electric guitar breakout after we had finished our parts. We didn't even know about it until we got the finished CD. Working in a studio was one of the most fun musical experiences I've had to date. Laying down the instruments one day, and the vocals the next day was not without some challenges though. I tend to use the vocals as my reference point when playing and got lost a few times until I got the hang of click tracks.
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LoJoe
Posted 2005-02-01 2:33 PM (#164896 - in reply to #164876)
Subject: Re: Worship Group Ovations


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Originally posted by BigBearCarolina:
LoJoe. You mean Dave Moody of Carlton Moody and the Moody Brothers? I used to listen to those 2, along with their little brother Trent years ago at the old Hobo Eatery on Central. They played there, or at the Boar's Head restaurant, and we listened to them nearly every weekend. I even had a couple of their old albums somewhere. Brings back old times!


That would be one and the same. I think Carlton is playing over in Europe now and Trent has a music store in Mint Hill (Lamon Music)where he sells instruments and gives music lessons. Dave is still doing his "Word on the Street" ministry with NASCAR and running his studio. Small world I guess!
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